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For anyone saying its a hoax who exactly hoaxed this? Would it have been the German language version of wikipedia that has not only a much more lengthy version of this article but also includes separate wikipedia pages on many of the nobles who died in the event where it lists them all as having the same date and cause of death? Would it be the famed and well respected German historian Gottfried Gabriel who has written books about the event who hoaxed it? Would it have been the town of Erfurt itself who literally included the event firsthand in its town chronicle back in 1184 when it occurred? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marisam77 ( talk • contribs) 6 September 2019 (UTC)
On 20 May, an IP user changed occurences of "disaster" into "event" and "accident" into "occurence".
In his edit comments he used an anti-feudal argument to support this change: 'They were worthless thieves so their deaths are nothing tragic' (summed up in my own words).
I think I will revert these changes soon, as this line of arguing aims at depriving the victims of their humanity because of their social status.
Still I would like to give '2603:3005:6e01:6a00:74b4:36cc:3315:8a34' a chance to further express his thoughts here and discuss. --
ΟΥΤΙΣ (
talk) 10:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Currently the lead section claims, explicitly, that the event is called Erfurt latrine disaster in secondary sources. It cites three sources for the claim, two of which do not name the event at all but merely describe it. Arnold and Magnusson do not use the term "Erfurt latrine disaster" anywhere in their books. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I feel this article lacks a section about the aftermath of the tragedy. What consequences were there for the affected noble families, the power balance, the original conflict, the king's reign, and architectonial practice? 2001:4641:AB76:0:E8FB:F645:3861:EEC3 ( talk) 23:12, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
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For anyone saying its a hoax who exactly hoaxed this? Would it have been the German language version of wikipedia that has not only a much more lengthy version of this article but also includes separate wikipedia pages on many of the nobles who died in the event where it lists them all as having the same date and cause of death? Would it be the famed and well respected German historian Gottfried Gabriel who has written books about the event who hoaxed it? Would it have been the town of Erfurt itself who literally included the event firsthand in its town chronicle back in 1184 when it occurred? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marisam77 ( talk • contribs) 6 September 2019 (UTC)
On 20 May, an IP user changed occurences of "disaster" into "event" and "accident" into "occurence".
In his edit comments he used an anti-feudal argument to support this change: 'They were worthless thieves so their deaths are nothing tragic' (summed up in my own words).
I think I will revert these changes soon, as this line of arguing aims at depriving the victims of their humanity because of their social status.
Still I would like to give '2603:3005:6e01:6a00:74b4:36cc:3315:8a34' a chance to further express his thoughts here and discuss. --
ΟΥΤΙΣ (
talk) 10:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Currently the lead section claims, explicitly, that the event is called Erfurt latrine disaster in secondary sources. It cites three sources for the claim, two of which do not name the event at all but merely describe it. Arnold and Magnusson do not use the term "Erfurt latrine disaster" anywhere in their books. Surtsicna ( talk) 19:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I feel this article lacks a section about the aftermath of the tragedy. What consequences were there for the affected noble families, the power balance, the original conflict, the king's reign, and architectonial practice? 2001:4641:AB76:0:E8FB:F645:3861:EEC3 ( talk) 23:12, 27 August 2022 (UTC)