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I don't understand the statement that Wuthering Heights was two parts of a three part novel, the last part being Agnes Gray. Agnes Gray was written by Anne Bronte, not Emily Bronte, so needless to say, this is a very confusing statement.
Just to clarify: Wuthering Heights was published with Agnes Grey (even though they are by two of the sisters, not one) in a 3 volume set by Thomas Cautley Newby in 1847. I presume the contributer means that Agnes Grey occupied only the last of the 3 volumes, whilst WH occupied the first 2 vols. I've changed the word 'part' for 'volume' and 'book' for 'set' and added that AG was by Anne. Is that a bit clearer?
This 'Dave the Monkey' isn't true, is it? "Her favorite stuffed toy, Dave the Monkey, was interred with her, but was subsequently removed and placed in the Haworth Parsonage museum." QueenStupid 03:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
EncyMind ( talk) 23:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC) I don't know whether it is true, but I can speak to whether a toy at that time could be called "Dave" by using a Thomas Jefferson example. He was known as Tom Jefferson by his friends and family. He had a pet mockingbird named Dick. I think we consider names like Tom, Dick and Dave as modern when they truly are not.
Just curious-This article says Charlotte edited Wuthering Heights and then published it as a stand-alone novel. Does anyone know how extensively she edited, and can the original publications be found anywhere? J'aimeOlivier 18:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I once read a foreword that described Emily Bronte's strength. The words "stoic" and "defiant" were in there. It described an incident in which she'd been bitten by a rabid dog and cauterized the wound herself. No one knew until someone saw the scars. Maybe we can mention this trait in her bio? I don't have the book anymore and can't find a good source on the net. 24.211.249.43 05:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Could it be Winifrid Gerins biography, titled 'Emily Bronte' ?
It's not that harsh is it? Yorkshire weather is drier than Lancashire, for example. Is there any evidence for "the harsh local climate at home and at school"? Why school particularly? Just how localized are we being here?-- Shantavira| feed me 08:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
"Emily's health, like her sisters', had been weakened by the harsh local climate at home and at school. She caught a cold during the funeral of her brother in September, which led to tuberculosis." These sentences are unsatisfactory for multiple reasons: "weakened health" is an imprecise term, the idea that bad weather causes illness is not true, the idea that a cold can lead to tuberculosis is not true, and the sentences are unreferenced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.54.20.51 ( talk) 14:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
im reading wuthering heights right now. it is a barnes and noble classic and the introduction is by daphne merkin. in chapter VI, mrs dean tells of how heathcliff returned without ms cathy. he tells her about how the dog attacked her ankle and she remain until morning. here is where you will find a footnote, and in the back of the book it explains about how emily bronte herse;f was attacked by a dog when she was younger. i hope thats what you were looking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylax02h ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Recently the file File:Emily Brontë by Patrick Branwell Brontë restored.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 06:51, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I have been to Haworth in the late summer. Storms come suddenly over the moors and are quite violent.
What many don't realize about the conditions under which they lived is that they lived in the parsonage, right next to the graveyard. Decaying flesh perked downwards, contaminating the drinking supply - they were on wells, of course. Tuberculosis, typhus and a host of other diseases spread easily in these unsanitary conditions. Whatever disease a person died from went directly into the drinking water.
They lived in a stone home that was quite drafty. There was no central heating. There were no fans to circulate heat from the fireplace around the rooms. Most rooms did not have fireplaces. Winters are harsh on the moors, and, I can assure you the Bronte sisters knew bone-chilling cold.
They also lived during and after the Year Without a Summer. The effects of that weather anomaly were felt for quite some time, both environmentally and economically.
EncyMind ( talk) 23:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Tuberculosis, typhus, and hosts of other diseases do NOT spread to living humans from corpses. They certainly would NOT infect humans after the body decayed and leaked into the water system. TB, in particular, has to be contracted through the air. Bacteria die quickly when their host dies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.51.226 ( talk) 23:28, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
I've reverted and removed the quote boxes. Aside from displaying not well, (very thin!), they're better suited for the Wuthering Heights page instead of Bronte's biography, imo. Please discuss before edit warring. Truthkeeper88 ( talk) 18:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
At the time of typing, hasn't there been a recent story discovered by Bronte that was written in French? If this information is accurate and can be sourced, it would help to update the article if it could be added to it. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 09:24, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Surprisingly close, closer than Charlotte Bronte, but the WP:COMMONNAME is still "Emily Bronte" without the accent and should be moved according to WP:DIACRITICS. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Here is some interesting information about Emily:
Emily Bronte was a very striking and lovable personality. A tall, thin, sallow, stooping, silent girl, in ill fitting, old fashioned dress, strangers saw her—they may have noted with the rare uplifting of the downcast lids the beautiful liquid eyes—and never dreamed of the fire, energy and vivacity that plain exterior hid. See her at home—upon the moors with her dogs at heel; the long limbs under the "slinky" dress move with a wild free grace. She whistles like a boy; she charms her sisters with the flash and pathos of her talk—possibly if is only a pool of tadpoles she chases about with her hand that suggests the quaint conceits, the wisdom and the humor, and, herself fearless, she delights to lure the timid Charlotte to some far-off hollow, and on their return home to tell her of some wild creature that lurked near. She loved nature; with bird and beast she had the most intimate relations, and from her walks she often came with fledgling or young rabbit in hand, talking softly to it, quite sure, too, that it understood. Never was there her parallel in anything. A deep and earnest student of German, a pianist of wonderful fire and brilliancy, a writer of marvelous promise, she did willingly and untiringly the heaviest household drudgery. Once she was bitten by a dog that she saw running by in great distress, and to which she offered water. The dog was mad. She said no word to any one, but herself burned the lacerated flesh to the bone with the red hot poker, and no one knew of it until the red scar was accidentally discovered some weeks after, and sympathetic questioning brought out this story.
Source: The Record-Union, "Sacramento" [1], December 31, 1899.Emily Bronté was the most enigmatical of all... Her leanings and affinities were all of a weird character. Unsocial, stubborn in will, destitute of affection for any human being, seemingly unsusceptible of influence or impression from her sisters; yet possessing a wild attachment for her home, a strange sympathy for the brute creation, and an unconquerable love of life...
Source: The Ladies' Repository, February, 1861.
If you think that the sources are acceptable/reliable enough, it would be nice to somehow use this information in the main article. Cheers. ~ Daniel Tomé ( talk) 22:20, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Catching a cold and coming down with tuberculosis are now seen as quite different afflictions. Citations would be good to establish whether tuberculosis was diagnosed at the time or inferred much later. Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 14:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Here is another story about Emily and her dog:
Emily was a remarkable creature. As a child and as a woman, she was in person a mere shadow of humanity, — pale, and delicate. But a wild unearthly spirit dwelt within her, and ever and again it flashed forth through her eyes in a fashion that made beholders tremble. When a child she was bitten by a strange dog, and without saying a word she went to the kitchen, took a red-hot Italian iron from the fire, and laid it on the wounded part. Her pet and constant associate was a huge, tawny, ferocious bull-dog, that some eccentric friend had given her. Every one in the house stood in awe of this brute; it persisted in lying at full length on the clean counterpanes of the beds, but no one save its mistress dared teach it better manners, for it was known never to forgive a blow. Emily, however, resolved to flog the monster. She was small, slight, feeble, and a child in years; but with whitened face, and flashing eyes, she seized the dog by the back of the neck and dragged it down stairs; on reaching the hall, she let go her hold, and instantly the furious creature flew at her throat, but promptly, with her little clenched fist, she struck it in the eye and knocked it back; a quick succession of blows followed — every one of them being directed against the one or the other eye. The battery lasted for several minutes, when the animal fell down stupified, blinded, and senseless; and Emily dragged off its huge carcase in triumph, to foment the swollen eyes. The dog loved her, with a dog's lasting, slavish love, ever afterwards lived obedient to her call, and when she died mourned as weakly as a human creature over her grave.
I've found a source for the pronunciation of the surname Brontë, from Merriam Webster's Encyclopedia of Literature. To quote from the Explanatory Notes:
The book then goes on to list BronTEE as the author's pronunciation, but commonly pronounced by others as BronTAY.
This source is available on Google Books, so anyone can check it online. DORC ( talk) 18:11, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Emily Brontë/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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When this article talks about Bronte being the third of the four surviving Bronte siblings, it could mention that the eldest of the Bronte siblings was Charlotte. Vorbee ( talk) 15:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
do you know the meaning of daguerrotype? the image of Constantin Heger is a portrait, oil of canvas, not photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.119.228.108 ( talk) 17:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
There is conflict since one of them states that the father removed them after their death and the other says that he removed them before Elizabeth died "Elizabeth died soon after their return home
To fix this issue I have deleted the first mention of Elizabeth dying after they got home since this includes no citation, in contrast with the second statement. If there is an error please reverse and correct me. DO PLEASE HOWEVER NOTIFY ME PREFERABLY. Chefs-kiss ( talk) 23:27, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Catherine Bush CBE (born 30 July 1958) is an English singer, songwriter, record producer and dancer who topped the UK Singles Chart for four weeks with her debut single "Wuthering Heights", 70.171.84.217 ( talk) 19:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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I don't understand the statement that Wuthering Heights was two parts of a three part novel, the last part being Agnes Gray. Agnes Gray was written by Anne Bronte, not Emily Bronte, so needless to say, this is a very confusing statement.
Just to clarify: Wuthering Heights was published with Agnes Grey (even though they are by two of the sisters, not one) in a 3 volume set by Thomas Cautley Newby in 1847. I presume the contributer means that Agnes Grey occupied only the last of the 3 volumes, whilst WH occupied the first 2 vols. I've changed the word 'part' for 'volume' and 'book' for 'set' and added that AG was by Anne. Is that a bit clearer?
This 'Dave the Monkey' isn't true, is it? "Her favorite stuffed toy, Dave the Monkey, was interred with her, but was subsequently removed and placed in the Haworth Parsonage museum." QueenStupid 03:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
EncyMind ( talk) 23:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC) I don't know whether it is true, but I can speak to whether a toy at that time could be called "Dave" by using a Thomas Jefferson example. He was known as Tom Jefferson by his friends and family. He had a pet mockingbird named Dick. I think we consider names like Tom, Dick and Dave as modern when they truly are not.
Just curious-This article says Charlotte edited Wuthering Heights and then published it as a stand-alone novel. Does anyone know how extensively she edited, and can the original publications be found anywhere? J'aimeOlivier 18:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I once read a foreword that described Emily Bronte's strength. The words "stoic" and "defiant" were in there. It described an incident in which she'd been bitten by a rabid dog and cauterized the wound herself. No one knew until someone saw the scars. Maybe we can mention this trait in her bio? I don't have the book anymore and can't find a good source on the net. 24.211.249.43 05:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Could it be Winifrid Gerins biography, titled 'Emily Bronte' ?
It's not that harsh is it? Yorkshire weather is drier than Lancashire, for example. Is there any evidence for "the harsh local climate at home and at school"? Why school particularly? Just how localized are we being here?-- Shantavira| feed me 08:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
"Emily's health, like her sisters', had been weakened by the harsh local climate at home and at school. She caught a cold during the funeral of her brother in September, which led to tuberculosis." These sentences are unsatisfactory for multiple reasons: "weakened health" is an imprecise term, the idea that bad weather causes illness is not true, the idea that a cold can lead to tuberculosis is not true, and the sentences are unreferenced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.54.20.51 ( talk) 14:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
im reading wuthering heights right now. it is a barnes and noble classic and the introduction is by daphne merkin. in chapter VI, mrs dean tells of how heathcliff returned without ms cathy. he tells her about how the dog attacked her ankle and she remain until morning. here is where you will find a footnote, and in the back of the book it explains about how emily bronte herse;f was attacked by a dog when she was younger. i hope thats what you were looking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylax02h ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Recently the file File:Emily Brontë by Patrick Branwell Brontë restored.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 06:51, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I have been to Haworth in the late summer. Storms come suddenly over the moors and are quite violent.
What many don't realize about the conditions under which they lived is that they lived in the parsonage, right next to the graveyard. Decaying flesh perked downwards, contaminating the drinking supply - they were on wells, of course. Tuberculosis, typhus and a host of other diseases spread easily in these unsanitary conditions. Whatever disease a person died from went directly into the drinking water.
They lived in a stone home that was quite drafty. There was no central heating. There were no fans to circulate heat from the fireplace around the rooms. Most rooms did not have fireplaces. Winters are harsh on the moors, and, I can assure you the Bronte sisters knew bone-chilling cold.
They also lived during and after the Year Without a Summer. The effects of that weather anomaly were felt for quite some time, both environmentally and economically.
EncyMind ( talk) 23:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Tuberculosis, typhus, and hosts of other diseases do NOT spread to living humans from corpses. They certainly would NOT infect humans after the body decayed and leaked into the water system. TB, in particular, has to be contracted through the air. Bacteria die quickly when their host dies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.51.226 ( talk) 23:28, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
I've reverted and removed the quote boxes. Aside from displaying not well, (very thin!), they're better suited for the Wuthering Heights page instead of Bronte's biography, imo. Please discuss before edit warring. Truthkeeper88 ( talk) 18:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
At the time of typing, hasn't there been a recent story discovered by Bronte that was written in French? If this information is accurate and can be sourced, it would help to update the article if it could be added to it. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 09:24, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Surprisingly close, closer than Charlotte Bronte, but the WP:COMMONNAME is still "Emily Bronte" without the accent and should be moved according to WP:DIACRITICS. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Here is some interesting information about Emily:
Emily Bronte was a very striking and lovable personality. A tall, thin, sallow, stooping, silent girl, in ill fitting, old fashioned dress, strangers saw her—they may have noted with the rare uplifting of the downcast lids the beautiful liquid eyes—and never dreamed of the fire, energy and vivacity that plain exterior hid. See her at home—upon the moors with her dogs at heel; the long limbs under the "slinky" dress move with a wild free grace. She whistles like a boy; she charms her sisters with the flash and pathos of her talk—possibly if is only a pool of tadpoles she chases about with her hand that suggests the quaint conceits, the wisdom and the humor, and, herself fearless, she delights to lure the timid Charlotte to some far-off hollow, and on their return home to tell her of some wild creature that lurked near. She loved nature; with bird and beast she had the most intimate relations, and from her walks she often came with fledgling or young rabbit in hand, talking softly to it, quite sure, too, that it understood. Never was there her parallel in anything. A deep and earnest student of German, a pianist of wonderful fire and brilliancy, a writer of marvelous promise, she did willingly and untiringly the heaviest household drudgery. Once she was bitten by a dog that she saw running by in great distress, and to which she offered water. The dog was mad. She said no word to any one, but herself burned the lacerated flesh to the bone with the red hot poker, and no one knew of it until the red scar was accidentally discovered some weeks after, and sympathetic questioning brought out this story.
Source: The Record-Union, "Sacramento" [1], December 31, 1899.Emily Bronté was the most enigmatical of all... Her leanings and affinities were all of a weird character. Unsocial, stubborn in will, destitute of affection for any human being, seemingly unsusceptible of influence or impression from her sisters; yet possessing a wild attachment for her home, a strange sympathy for the brute creation, and an unconquerable love of life...
Source: The Ladies' Repository, February, 1861.
If you think that the sources are acceptable/reliable enough, it would be nice to somehow use this information in the main article. Cheers. ~ Daniel Tomé ( talk) 22:20, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Catching a cold and coming down with tuberculosis are now seen as quite different afflictions. Citations would be good to establish whether tuberculosis was diagnosed at the time or inferred much later. Sminthopsis84 ( talk) 14:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Here is another story about Emily and her dog:
Emily was a remarkable creature. As a child and as a woman, she was in person a mere shadow of humanity, — pale, and delicate. But a wild unearthly spirit dwelt within her, and ever and again it flashed forth through her eyes in a fashion that made beholders tremble. When a child she was bitten by a strange dog, and without saying a word she went to the kitchen, took a red-hot Italian iron from the fire, and laid it on the wounded part. Her pet and constant associate was a huge, tawny, ferocious bull-dog, that some eccentric friend had given her. Every one in the house stood in awe of this brute; it persisted in lying at full length on the clean counterpanes of the beds, but no one save its mistress dared teach it better manners, for it was known never to forgive a blow. Emily, however, resolved to flog the monster. She was small, slight, feeble, and a child in years; but with whitened face, and flashing eyes, she seized the dog by the back of the neck and dragged it down stairs; on reaching the hall, she let go her hold, and instantly the furious creature flew at her throat, but promptly, with her little clenched fist, she struck it in the eye and knocked it back; a quick succession of blows followed — every one of them being directed against the one or the other eye. The battery lasted for several minutes, when the animal fell down stupified, blinded, and senseless; and Emily dragged off its huge carcase in triumph, to foment the swollen eyes. The dog loved her, with a dog's lasting, slavish love, ever afterwards lived obedient to her call, and when she died mourned as weakly as a human creature over her grave.
I've found a source for the pronunciation of the surname Brontë, from Merriam Webster's Encyclopedia of Literature. To quote from the Explanatory Notes:
The book then goes on to list BronTEE as the author's pronunciation, but commonly pronounced by others as BronTAY.
This source is available on Google Books, so anyone can check it online. DORC ( talk) 18:11, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Emily Brontë/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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Last edited at 21:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 14:26, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
When this article talks about Bronte being the third of the four surviving Bronte siblings, it could mention that the eldest of the Bronte siblings was Charlotte. Vorbee ( talk) 15:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
do you know the meaning of daguerrotype? the image of Constantin Heger is a portrait, oil of canvas, not photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.119.228.108 ( talk) 17:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
There is conflict since one of them states that the father removed them after their death and the other says that he removed them before Elizabeth died "Elizabeth died soon after their return home
To fix this issue I have deleted the first mention of Elizabeth dying after they got home since this includes no citation, in contrast with the second statement. If there is an error please reverse and correct me. DO PLEASE HOWEVER NOTIFY ME PREFERABLY. Chefs-kiss ( talk) 23:27, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Catherine Bush CBE (born 30 July 1958) is an English singer, songwriter, record producer and dancer who topped the UK Singles Chart for four weeks with her debut single "Wuthering Heights", 70.171.84.217 ( talk) 19:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)