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What's the difference between his book "Knock on Woodstock" and "Taking Woodstock"? Or are they the same book but with different titles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.234.170 ( talk) 02:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
He is in that category but actually he was born in Brooklyn. I guess I'll leave him in the category as I see that Yasgur is too, and he was born outside of Bethel too. He is listed as being "from" Brooklyn too, and I don't see how you can be from two places.
Maybe the name of the category should be changed to "Bethel people" or something like that. Eh? I think I may kick this over to NY project, as this is clearly a wikidilemma. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 00:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I've been in touch with Mr. Tiber and his representatives to see if a photo can be obtained for the article. Started reading the book--a heck of a good read, by the way. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 15:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, nobody but he contributes to the talk page and I'll continue the monologue: how do we know his age? It isn't in Taking Woodstock. If it can't be sourced I'm taking it out.-- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 15:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Reading contemporary NY Times accounts of the Festival preparations from July 1969, I'm increasingly uneasy about using Tiber's account as fact, so I've reduced somewhat and attributed his claims to him. He claims to have a permit, yet that isn't mentioned anywhere else, such as in a lengthy New York Times article from July 1969. He claims he introduced Yasgur to the promoters, and the promoters deny that. He apparently said in one place that some performers stayed at his motel, but he left that out of his book. I think that we need to use what he says with caution, as he clearly is not a reliable source on any factual assertion.
His assertions should be left in, but reduced in size and attributed to his account, not stated as fact. Publisher's Weekly called his book as often "improbable," which means they didn't believe it.-- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 16:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Given that he is not a reliable source, I've changed the lead, which claimed that he had a key role in organizing Woodstock. That is disputed by Lang and others. No idea why I, or anyone, didn't notice this earlier. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 01:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
But it still seems that the only actual claim he does that is wrong is that he introduced the organizers to Yasgur. That's not exactly "disputing his account", as the article now claims. I haven't read the book, but the movie does not claim that Tiber was involved in the organizing, just that he has a permit, and nobody seems to dispute this. I'm removing the claim that his account has been disputed, as it's just one detail in it. --
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I would tend to agree with John, many of Tier's claims are disputed. Just becase I lived I say somethin about myself, doesn'take it true. For instance, this article cites his own resume, in which he gives himself the moniker of "Wood stock Daddy". Dubious to say the least. -- Tacit tatum ( talk) 07:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Due to the death of this person, the BLP status of this article has changed. This does not mean that unsourced material that would contravene the Biography of Living Persons rules can be added to this article Capitalistroadster ( talk) 03:50, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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What's the difference between his book "Knock on Woodstock" and "Taking Woodstock"? Or are they the same book but with different titles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.234.170 ( talk) 02:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
He is in that category but actually he was born in Brooklyn. I guess I'll leave him in the category as I see that Yasgur is too, and he was born outside of Bethel too. He is listed as being "from" Brooklyn too, and I don't see how you can be from two places.
Maybe the name of the category should be changed to "Bethel people" or something like that. Eh? I think I may kick this over to NY project, as this is clearly a wikidilemma. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 00:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I've been in touch with Mr. Tiber and his representatives to see if a photo can be obtained for the article. Started reading the book--a heck of a good read, by the way. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 15:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, nobody but he contributes to the talk page and I'll continue the monologue: how do we know his age? It isn't in Taking Woodstock. If it can't be sourced I'm taking it out.-- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 15:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Reading contemporary NY Times accounts of the Festival preparations from July 1969, I'm increasingly uneasy about using Tiber's account as fact, so I've reduced somewhat and attributed his claims to him. He claims to have a permit, yet that isn't mentioned anywhere else, such as in a lengthy New York Times article from July 1969. He claims he introduced Yasgur to the promoters, and the promoters deny that. He apparently said in one place that some performers stayed at his motel, but he left that out of his book. I think that we need to use what he says with caution, as he clearly is not a reliable source on any factual assertion.
His assertions should be left in, but reduced in size and attributed to his account, not stated as fact. Publisher's Weekly called his book as often "improbable," which means they didn't believe it.-- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 16:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Given that he is not a reliable source, I've changed the lead, which claimed that he had a key role in organizing Woodstock. That is disputed by Lang and others. No idea why I, or anyone, didn't notice this earlier. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 01:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
But it still seems that the only actual claim he does that is wrong is that he introduced the organizers to Yasgur. That's not exactly "disputing his account", as the article now claims. I haven't read the book, but the movie does not claim that Tiber was involved in the organizing, just that he has a permit, and nobody seems to dispute this. I'm removing the claim that his account has been disputed, as it's just one detail in it. --
OpenFuture (
talk) 21:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I would tend to agree with John, many of Tier's claims are disputed. Just becase I lived I say somethin about myself, doesn'take it true. For instance, this article cites his own resume, in which he gives himself the moniker of "Wood stock Daddy". Dubious to say the least. -- Tacit tatum ( talk) 07:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Due to the death of this person, the BLP status of this article has changed. This does not mean that unsourced material that would contravene the Biography of Living Persons rules can be added to this article Capitalistroadster ( talk) 03:50, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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