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Can we move the honors categories to List of titles and honours of Queen Elizabeth II? That would move 69 from here to there, reducing the number here to 53. DrKiernan ( talk) 09:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I would suggest to add a link to the Monarchy of the United Kingdom page. I have not found the perfect place (somewhere at the top of the page) to add this, or link a word to it. Maybe a link through the word Queen in the line "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" would work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingolfin86 ( talk • contribs) 16:20, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Maybe changing the first sentence to: Elizabeth II (Elizabeth Alexandra Mary; born 21 April 1926) [note 1] is the constitutional monarch of the United Kingdom and 15 more sovereign states (together known as the Commonwealth realms) and their territories and dependencies, as well as head of the 54-member Commonwealth of Nations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingolfin86 ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Earlier, I tried to rewrite the line of Elizabeth's early life stating, "She had a sister. ... who is four years younger". Unfortunately, another editor continually reverted it stating the fact that she only has one sibling (a younger sister) is important and so now it reads, "Elizabeth's only sibling. ... was born in 1930". IMO, the fact that she only has one sister is quite obvious because if Elizabeth had any other siblings, they would be listed. Also, "a 1950 autobiography" was rejected out of misunderstanding and they kept rewriting, "autobiography published in 1950"; the former is actually standard and I've seen it used many times. I spoke to another editor about this and I was told to post on the talk page. Thoughts? Spelling Style ( talk) 20:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
For this. The edit summary is insufficient. -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, since it seems you indeed do not have any legitimate explanation for
I shall restore the aforementioned, unless you finally do express yourself. The paragraph should thus read:
-- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 16:47, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
There is an exhibition with the displays Queen Elizabeth's formal painted portraits, official photographs and press images by contemporary artists, including Pietro Annigoni, Cecil Beaton, Lord Lichfield, Andy Warhol, Lucian Freud and Gerhard Richter, Chris Levine, Ralph Heimans, Rolf Harris, Phil Richards, Annie Leibovitz during the sixty years of her reign.
Just a suggestion for an article about the portraits. There are a lot of really famous ones like the Warhol, Freud and Leibovitz ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.242.76 ( talk) 00:58, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Anyone here who's British can double check me on this, but apparently she just finalized an amendment to switch her successors to a different type of primogeniture, namely from male-preference to neutral primogeniture. This means that Kate Middleton's new baby will succeed the still-future King William V as eldest child, regardless of his or her sex.
I heard this in a video on the Huffington Post. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 17:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Queen Elizabeth II is the first time in 3D gave her traditional Christmas speech on the occasion in which she paid tribute to athletes, the Olympic and Paraolympic Games and thanked the British for her jubilee celebrations, reports the Croatian news agency HINA. 93.137.54.210 ( talk) 16:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Please change: the death in 1997 of her daughter-in-law to read the death in 1997 of her former daughter-in-law Alexander06 ( talk) 18:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
"George V specifically adopted Windsor, not only as the name of the 'House' or dynasty, but also as the surname of his family." (emphasis added) is stated explicitly on the page of the "Official Website of the British Royal Family" which is dedicated to explaining to the public the surname of the Queen, and which is there labelled The Royal Family name". That explanation derives from and is consistent with the proclamation of George V issued in 1917, which says "We, out of Our Royal Will and Authority, do hereby declare and announce that as from the date of this Our Royal Proclamation Our House and Family shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that all the descendants in the male line of Our said Grandmother Queen Victoria who are subjects of these Realms, other than female descendants who may marry or may have married, shall bear the said Name of Windsor..." (emphasis added) The Royal Website is also consistent with the Orders-in-Council of Elizabeth II issued: 9 April 1952 (which states "I hereby declare My Will and Pleasure that I and My children shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that My descendants, other than female descendants who marry and their descendants, shall bear the Name of Windsor") (emphasis added) and 8 February 1960 ("I declare My Will and Pleasure that, while I and My Children shall continue to be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, My descendants other than descendants enjoying the style, title or attribute of Royal Highness and the titular dignity of Prince or Princess and female descendants who marry and their descendants shall bear the name of Mountbatten-Windsor.") The notion that "Royals don't have surnames" is popular to the point of being an urban legend among monarchists and history-buffs, but it simply isn't true. The reliable citations, above, documenting Windsor as Elizabeth II's declared surname have not been refuted by any authority comparable to that of the royal decrees as clarified on the Royal Website. People come to an encyclopedia to have popular misconceptions corrected. That is what affixing "Windsor" to Elizabeth II's name in this article does. FactStraight ( talk) 05:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
If you go here: [6] and click on the link "View the original" (part way down on the left), you can see the original scan of the official England and Wales birth register index for April-June 1926. She is listed as Windsor, Elizabeth A. M. DrKiernan ( talk) 10:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The article fails to mention her majesty’s last name at the start. I think that is rather essential; don’t you? Did she take the name of the guy she married or does she keep her surname since she is after all the Queen? Or did she take his name like any other woman would? If she took his name than the royal family will have a different last name from there on. -- 68.118.201.68 ( talk) 22:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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The choice of name I see for this queen is:
"Elizabeth, 'of course'"
OK, but could someone add that this resulted in the "I" being added to the name of the previous Elizabeth? (Elizabeth I's article has her as simply Elizabeth before the explicitly-stated accession of Elizabeth II.)
Suggested new sentence: (Therefore, she became Elizabeth II, and the previous queen Elizabeth was given the number "I".)
128.63.16.20 ( talk) 18:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm not convinced that being top in the Women's Hour "power list" is a valuable addition to the article. She is after all the head of state, and the source is not an especially distinguished one. DrKiernan ( talk) 19:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
The Church of Scotland is presbyterian. The Queen is clearly Anglican. See here [7]. While she is the ceremonial head of the CofS, she is the literal head of the CoE. The CoS website even states that she is not an adherent. See here [8]. Revmqo ( talk) 06:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Her Majesty has been hospitalised at King Edward VII Hospital for treatment of gastrointenteritis. 74.69.11.229 ( talk) 17:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually it is news and yes, we do, especially the Queen, because it is so rare. 74.69.121.132 ( talk) 00:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Its a good article but thats the Queen and there should be more facts about her and the reign. Not just some information. There are so many facts online like on this two websites:
http://www.thediamondjubilee.org/60-facts-about-queen http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Factfiles/80factsaboutTheQueen.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.242.76 ( talk) 06:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC) http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2114386_2114388_2115566,00.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.242.76 ( talk) 06:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Her age needs changing, today is her birthday. She's now 87. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JLPark731 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Her Majesty the Queen is now 88 years old, not 87. Jules Grant ( talk) 11:11, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
My mistake. I counted years began and finished, sorry. Haha, such a simple error.
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Recent removal of her past position as heir apparent to the throne has been accompanied by the assertion that it is "absurd" here and here. Whether or not that evaluation is true is beside the point, we have the article List of heirs to the British throne to show that is certainly something that readers have found to be of interest. Indeed, that article has been viewed well over 3,000 times per month every month in 2013 and 2012 (where I stopped looking). Feel free to examine further here. Any thoughts? Frank | talk 13:12, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused as to the whole reason for this discussion. She was the heir(ess) presumptive as Her Royal Highness the Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh to the British throne from December 11, 1936 to February 6, 1952. She is referred to as such by the British monarchy website http://www.royal.gov.uk/HMTheQueen/Education/Overview.aspx. If they say she was, she was. Period. No need for everyone to get so bent out of shape about it. Now replace the bloody box where it was and let's get on with life. 74.69.121.132 ( talk) 00:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
The end of the fifth paragraph states that 'The Queen has occasionally faced severe press criticism of the royal family and republican sentiments, but support for the monarchy and her personal popularity remain high.' There is no evidence to back up the fact that both support for her and the monarchy remain high. Without this, it is the author's opinion only. The statement also suggests that the only criticism she has received has been from the press, but there's no evidence of this either. 86.171.51.23 ( talk) 09:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
According to this article, her full and official title is 'Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith'. Should this be included in the article? Crazy Eddy ( talk) 10:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
In Scotland, she is never referred to as the Second - because there was no First. The pillar boxes do not include "II" after the bombs in 1952/53. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 15:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
This article's description of the Fagan Incident is not entirely consistent with the incident's own article. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fagan_incident) — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Parcae ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi all. I just wrote the article Queen Elizabeth's horses, but can't seem to edit this page to add a link to it. Can anyone assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captitan Obvious ( talk • contribs) 19:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Is there a list of painted portraits that the Queen has sat for? Or official portraits? I do so want to grab together the disparate artists into a list. Gareth E Kegg ( talk) 23:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Is this expression correct? I am not a lawyer, or linguist, but I do happen to know that in United States income tax law (partly derived from English common law) divorce or death does not end the relationship between father or mother in law and son or daughter in law. Steve Dufour ( talk) 01:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Although the article states that there were celebrations throughout her realms, it paints a slightly distorted picture since, in Scotland there were only about 100 street parties, compared to nearly 10,000 in England. The feeling in Scotland and England was totally different, and I cannot comment on other countries, but would be interested to know. 86.14.187.220 ( talk) 21:30, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Lance Tyrell
User:DrKiernan on 18 November 2012 changed the words "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" in the infobox to "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms", and has today reverted it to that--his preferred version. "Queen of the Commonwealthr realms" had, before 18 November 2012, been in place for nine months, after it was restored on 15 February 2012, having by then stood for two years, between April 2010 and February 2012, since consensus for "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" won consensus after lengthy discussion at talk (subsequent history outlined here).
The reasoning for the 18 November 2012 change was that it was per a discussion at talk that took place in November 2012. But, there was no actual consensus established there to make the change DrKiernan made at that time; he merely suggested adding "constitutional monarch of the United Kingdom and 15 more sovereign states (together known as the Commonwealth realms) and their territories and dependencies" to the infobox and then changed the infobox to read "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms" (thereby making his 4th revert to this article on that day). I contested the edit, but could not revert it, given that doing so would put me over 3RR as well.
Given that the wording "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" has, as demonstrated above, always had more support and has, over four years, been in the article longer than "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms", it should be restored again to the infobox. Further, "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realm" both gives a biased specialness to the UK and duplicates the words "United Kingdom" found at the head of the drop-down list of countries immediately below. -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 16:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Should the infobox describe Elizabeth II as "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms"? DrKiernan ( talk) 17:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
-- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
# Oppose. She is queen of both the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. Both should be mentioned.
GreekParadise (
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The RFC question does not make it clear what the alternative is / what the question actually is. As a result, some are treating it as a question of whether or not to include "United Kingdom" and others are treating it as a question of whether or not to exclude "and the other Commonwealth realms" After the question is clarified, the existing responses need to be resorted. North8000 ( talk) 11:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
This either has to start over, or else someone is going to have to see which of the already-posted views are clear on this now-specified question. Because the responses are under a question which was not asked at the time the responses were made. I suggest starting over with the 1 or 2 questions very very clearly and explicitly defined. North8000 ( talk) 13:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
The infobox currently uses File:Elizabeth II greets NASA GSFC employees, May 8, 2007 edit.jpg which is great, but the photo is from 2007 making it 6 years out-of-date. Yesterday I uploaded to Commons the photo to the right which is from 2012. I put the photo into the infobox, but it was reverted, so I am bringing it here to see what others think on changing the photo to the 2012 photo instead. Russavia ( talk) 01:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
From this this other photo, taken just two minutes later according to the Exif header and clearly in the same spot, I think it's clear who she was having to listen to at the time, which might explain the look on her face. ;-) -- Money money tickle parsnip ( talk) 14:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
In the second paragraph, your editors have neglected to include the British Virgin Islands amongst the countries and territories for which Queen Elizabeth is Queen.
That paragraph should read:
At present, in addition to the first four aforementioned countries, Elizabeth is Queen of Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis and the British Virgin Islands.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.125.73 ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 5 July
The first sentence of this chapter begins with: "Since Elizabeth rarely gives interviews..." This clearly contradicts the first sentence in Personality and image of Queen Elizabeth II: "Queen Elizabeth II has never given a press interview." So what is it? -- Voyager ( talk) 15:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
This edit, which changed "The birth of her first great-grandson, Prince George of Cambridge, meant that three generations of heirs to the thrones are alive at the same time as the reigning monarch" to "The birth of her first great-grandson, Prince George of Cambridge, meant that three generations of heirs to the throne are alive at the same time as the reigning monarch", is curious, as is the edit summary for it. No, Elizabeth II is not the "queens of the Commonwealth realms"; what she is is queen of each Commonwealth realm separately, making her one person who is a number of queens, who occupies 16 such offices: Queen of Australia, Queen of Jamaica, Queen of New Zealand, Queen of the UK, and so on. Charles, William, and George are currently the heirs to all those offices. Since each is separate from the other (each country being sovereign), there are thus 16 thrones: the throne of Australia, the throne of Jamaica, the throne of New Zealand, the throne of the UK, and so on. Saying these people are heirs to a throne contradicts the lead of this article.
It would thus be more accurate to return to the use of "thrones". However, an alternate way of putting the same sentence could be "The birth of her first great-grandson, Prince George of Cambridge, meant that three of the reigning monarch's direct heirs are alive at the same time, a situation that hasn't occurred since [etc.]..." -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 20:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
The above seems to me a very good description of the situation in which the crown (or the throne) can be interpreted as both plural and singular. The Statute of Westminster speaks of "common allegiance to the Crown" which is singular. I suppose there is some light between the institutional and the judicial situation. Gerard von Hebel ( talk) 00:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
User Soffredo has added Niue and the Cook Islands to the list of Realms in the infobox. Since neither of them are Realms I have reverted twice. I will do so again, but not after placing this message in the talk page. Niue and the Cook Islands have a status that is for some (but not all) purposes equivalent to sovereignty. Both are states in free association with New Zealand, a state of affairs known as the Realm of New Zealand. The Queen is not distinctly head of the countries, but in her capacity as Queen of NZ, so these two countries do not belong in that list. Gerard von Hebel ( talk) 23:06, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Can we move the honors categories to List of titles and honours of Queen Elizabeth II? That would move 69 from here to there, reducing the number here to 53. DrKiernan ( talk) 09:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
I would suggest to add a link to the Monarchy of the United Kingdom page. I have not found the perfect place (somewhere at the top of the page) to add this, or link a word to it. Maybe a link through the word Queen in the line "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" would work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingolfin86 ( talk • contribs) 16:20, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Maybe changing the first sentence to: Elizabeth II (Elizabeth Alexandra Mary; born 21 April 1926) [note 1] is the constitutional monarch of the United Kingdom and 15 more sovereign states (together known as the Commonwealth realms) and their territories and dependencies, as well as head of the 54-member Commonwealth of Nations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingolfin86 ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Earlier, I tried to rewrite the line of Elizabeth's early life stating, "She had a sister. ... who is four years younger". Unfortunately, another editor continually reverted it stating the fact that she only has one sibling (a younger sister) is important and so now it reads, "Elizabeth's only sibling. ... was born in 1930". IMO, the fact that she only has one sister is quite obvious because if Elizabeth had any other siblings, they would be listed. Also, "a 1950 autobiography" was rejected out of misunderstanding and they kept rewriting, "autobiography published in 1950"; the former is actually standard and I've seen it used many times. I spoke to another editor about this and I was told to post on the talk page. Thoughts? Spelling Style ( talk) 20:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
For this. The edit summary is insufficient. -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, since it seems you indeed do not have any legitimate explanation for
I shall restore the aforementioned, unless you finally do express yourself. The paragraph should thus read:
-- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 16:47, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
There is an exhibition with the displays Queen Elizabeth's formal painted portraits, official photographs and press images by contemporary artists, including Pietro Annigoni, Cecil Beaton, Lord Lichfield, Andy Warhol, Lucian Freud and Gerhard Richter, Chris Levine, Ralph Heimans, Rolf Harris, Phil Richards, Annie Leibovitz during the sixty years of her reign.
Just a suggestion for an article about the portraits. There are a lot of really famous ones like the Warhol, Freud and Leibovitz ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.242.76 ( talk) 00:58, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Anyone here who's British can double check me on this, but apparently she just finalized an amendment to switch her successors to a different type of primogeniture, namely from male-preference to neutral primogeniture. This means that Kate Middleton's new baby will succeed the still-future King William V as eldest child, regardless of his or her sex.
I heard this in a video on the Huffington Post. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 17:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Queen Elizabeth II is the first time in 3D gave her traditional Christmas speech on the occasion in which she paid tribute to athletes, the Olympic and Paraolympic Games and thanked the British for her jubilee celebrations, reports the Croatian news agency HINA. 93.137.54.210 ( talk) 16:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Please change: the death in 1997 of her daughter-in-law to read the death in 1997 of her former daughter-in-law Alexander06 ( talk) 18:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
"George V specifically adopted Windsor, not only as the name of the 'House' or dynasty, but also as the surname of his family." (emphasis added) is stated explicitly on the page of the "Official Website of the British Royal Family" which is dedicated to explaining to the public the surname of the Queen, and which is there labelled The Royal Family name". That explanation derives from and is consistent with the proclamation of George V issued in 1917, which says "We, out of Our Royal Will and Authority, do hereby declare and announce that as from the date of this Our Royal Proclamation Our House and Family shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that all the descendants in the male line of Our said Grandmother Queen Victoria who are subjects of these Realms, other than female descendants who may marry or may have married, shall bear the said Name of Windsor..." (emphasis added) The Royal Website is also consistent with the Orders-in-Council of Elizabeth II issued: 9 April 1952 (which states "I hereby declare My Will and Pleasure that I and My children shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that My descendants, other than female descendants who marry and their descendants, shall bear the Name of Windsor") (emphasis added) and 8 February 1960 ("I declare My Will and Pleasure that, while I and My Children shall continue to be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, My descendants other than descendants enjoying the style, title or attribute of Royal Highness and the titular dignity of Prince or Princess and female descendants who marry and their descendants shall bear the name of Mountbatten-Windsor.") The notion that "Royals don't have surnames" is popular to the point of being an urban legend among monarchists and history-buffs, but it simply isn't true. The reliable citations, above, documenting Windsor as Elizabeth II's declared surname have not been refuted by any authority comparable to that of the royal decrees as clarified on the Royal Website. People come to an encyclopedia to have popular misconceptions corrected. That is what affixing "Windsor" to Elizabeth II's name in this article does. FactStraight ( talk) 05:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
If you go here: [6] and click on the link "View the original" (part way down on the left), you can see the original scan of the official England and Wales birth register index for April-June 1926. She is listed as Windsor, Elizabeth A. M. DrKiernan ( talk) 10:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The article fails to mention her majesty’s last name at the start. I think that is rather essential; don’t you? Did she take the name of the guy she married or does she keep her surname since she is after all the Queen? Or did she take his name like any other woman would? If she took his name than the royal family will have a different last name from there on. -- 68.118.201.68 ( talk) 22:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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The choice of name I see for this queen is:
"Elizabeth, 'of course'"
OK, but could someone add that this resulted in the "I" being added to the name of the previous Elizabeth? (Elizabeth I's article has her as simply Elizabeth before the explicitly-stated accession of Elizabeth II.)
Suggested new sentence: (Therefore, she became Elizabeth II, and the previous queen Elizabeth was given the number "I".)
128.63.16.20 ( talk) 18:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm not convinced that being top in the Women's Hour "power list" is a valuable addition to the article. She is after all the head of state, and the source is not an especially distinguished one. DrKiernan ( talk) 19:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
The Church of Scotland is presbyterian. The Queen is clearly Anglican. See here [7]. While she is the ceremonial head of the CofS, she is the literal head of the CoE. The CoS website even states that she is not an adherent. See here [8]. Revmqo ( talk) 06:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Her Majesty has been hospitalised at King Edward VII Hospital for treatment of gastrointenteritis. 74.69.11.229 ( talk) 17:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually it is news and yes, we do, especially the Queen, because it is so rare. 74.69.121.132 ( talk) 00:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Its a good article but thats the Queen and there should be more facts about her and the reign. Not just some information. There are so many facts online like on this two websites:
http://www.thediamondjubilee.org/60-facts-about-queen http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Factfiles/80factsaboutTheQueen.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.242.76 ( talk) 06:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC) http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2114386_2114388_2115566,00.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.242.76 ( talk) 06:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Her age needs changing, today is her birthday. She's now 87. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JLPark731 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Her Majesty the Queen is now 88 years old, not 87. Jules Grant ( talk) 11:11, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
My mistake. I counted years began and finished, sorry. Haha, such a simple error.
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Recent removal of her past position as heir apparent to the throne has been accompanied by the assertion that it is "absurd" here and here. Whether or not that evaluation is true is beside the point, we have the article List of heirs to the British throne to show that is certainly something that readers have found to be of interest. Indeed, that article has been viewed well over 3,000 times per month every month in 2013 and 2012 (where I stopped looking). Feel free to examine further here. Any thoughts? Frank | talk 13:12, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused as to the whole reason for this discussion. She was the heir(ess) presumptive as Her Royal Highness the Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh to the British throne from December 11, 1936 to February 6, 1952. She is referred to as such by the British monarchy website http://www.royal.gov.uk/HMTheQueen/Education/Overview.aspx. If they say she was, she was. Period. No need for everyone to get so bent out of shape about it. Now replace the bloody box where it was and let's get on with life. 74.69.121.132 ( talk) 00:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
The end of the fifth paragraph states that 'The Queen has occasionally faced severe press criticism of the royal family and republican sentiments, but support for the monarchy and her personal popularity remain high.' There is no evidence to back up the fact that both support for her and the monarchy remain high. Without this, it is the author's opinion only. The statement also suggests that the only criticism she has received has been from the press, but there's no evidence of this either. 86.171.51.23 ( talk) 09:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
According to this article, her full and official title is 'Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith'. Should this be included in the article? Crazy Eddy ( talk) 10:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
In Scotland, she is never referred to as the Second - because there was no First. The pillar boxes do not include "II" after the bombs in 1952/53. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 15:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
This article's description of the Fagan Incident is not entirely consistent with the incident's own article. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fagan_incident) — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Parcae ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi all. I just wrote the article Queen Elizabeth's horses, but can't seem to edit this page to add a link to it. Can anyone assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captitan Obvious ( talk • contribs) 19:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Is there a list of painted portraits that the Queen has sat for? Or official portraits? I do so want to grab together the disparate artists into a list. Gareth E Kegg ( talk) 23:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Is this expression correct? I am not a lawyer, or linguist, but I do happen to know that in United States income tax law (partly derived from English common law) divorce or death does not end the relationship between father or mother in law and son or daughter in law. Steve Dufour ( talk) 01:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Although the article states that there were celebrations throughout her realms, it paints a slightly distorted picture since, in Scotland there were only about 100 street parties, compared to nearly 10,000 in England. The feeling in Scotland and England was totally different, and I cannot comment on other countries, but would be interested to know. 86.14.187.220 ( talk) 21:30, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Lance Tyrell
User:DrKiernan on 18 November 2012 changed the words "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" in the infobox to "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms", and has today reverted it to that--his preferred version. "Queen of the Commonwealthr realms" had, before 18 November 2012, been in place for nine months, after it was restored on 15 February 2012, having by then stood for two years, between April 2010 and February 2012, since consensus for "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" won consensus after lengthy discussion at talk (subsequent history outlined here).
The reasoning for the 18 November 2012 change was that it was per a discussion at talk that took place in November 2012. But, there was no actual consensus established there to make the change DrKiernan made at that time; he merely suggested adding "constitutional monarch of the United Kingdom and 15 more sovereign states (together known as the Commonwealth realms) and their territories and dependencies" to the infobox and then changed the infobox to read "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms" (thereby making his 4th revert to this article on that day). I contested the edit, but could not revert it, given that doing so would put me over 3RR as well.
Given that the wording "Queen of the Commonwealth realms" has, as demonstrated above, always had more support and has, over four years, been in the article longer than "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms", it should be restored again to the infobox. Further, "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realm" both gives a biased specialness to the UK and duplicates the words "United Kingdom" found at the head of the drop-down list of countries immediately below. -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 16:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Should the infobox describe Elizabeth II as "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms"? DrKiernan ( talk) 17:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
-- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
# Oppose. She is queen of both the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. Both should be mentioned.
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The RFC question does not make it clear what the alternative is / what the question actually is. As a result, some are treating it as a question of whether or not to include "United Kingdom" and others are treating it as a question of whether or not to exclude "and the other Commonwealth realms" After the question is clarified, the existing responses need to be resorted. North8000 ( talk) 11:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
This either has to start over, or else someone is going to have to see which of the already-posted views are clear on this now-specified question. Because the responses are under a question which was not asked at the time the responses were made. I suggest starting over with the 1 or 2 questions very very clearly and explicitly defined. North8000 ( talk) 13:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
The infobox currently uses File:Elizabeth II greets NASA GSFC employees, May 8, 2007 edit.jpg which is great, but the photo is from 2007 making it 6 years out-of-date. Yesterday I uploaded to Commons the photo to the right which is from 2012. I put the photo into the infobox, but it was reverted, so I am bringing it here to see what others think on changing the photo to the 2012 photo instead. Russavia ( talk) 01:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
From this this other photo, taken just two minutes later according to the Exif header and clearly in the same spot, I think it's clear who she was having to listen to at the time, which might explain the look on her face. ;-) -- Money money tickle parsnip ( talk) 14:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
In the second paragraph, your editors have neglected to include the British Virgin Islands amongst the countries and territories for which Queen Elizabeth is Queen.
That paragraph should read:
At present, in addition to the first four aforementioned countries, Elizabeth is Queen of Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belize, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis and the British Virgin Islands.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.125.73 ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 5 July
The first sentence of this chapter begins with: "Since Elizabeth rarely gives interviews..." This clearly contradicts the first sentence in Personality and image of Queen Elizabeth II: "Queen Elizabeth II has never given a press interview." So what is it? -- Voyager ( talk) 15:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
This edit, which changed "The birth of her first great-grandson, Prince George of Cambridge, meant that three generations of heirs to the thrones are alive at the same time as the reigning monarch" to "The birth of her first great-grandson, Prince George of Cambridge, meant that three generations of heirs to the throne are alive at the same time as the reigning monarch", is curious, as is the edit summary for it. No, Elizabeth II is not the "queens of the Commonwealth realms"; what she is is queen of each Commonwealth realm separately, making her one person who is a number of queens, who occupies 16 such offices: Queen of Australia, Queen of Jamaica, Queen of New Zealand, Queen of the UK, and so on. Charles, William, and George are currently the heirs to all those offices. Since each is separate from the other (each country being sovereign), there are thus 16 thrones: the throne of Australia, the throne of Jamaica, the throne of New Zealand, the throne of the UK, and so on. Saying these people are heirs to a throne contradicts the lead of this article.
It would thus be more accurate to return to the use of "thrones". However, an alternate way of putting the same sentence could be "The birth of her first great-grandson, Prince George of Cambridge, meant that three of the reigning monarch's direct heirs are alive at the same time, a situation that hasn't occurred since [etc.]..." -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 20:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
The above seems to me a very good description of the situation in which the crown (or the throne) can be interpreted as both plural and singular. The Statute of Westminster speaks of "common allegiance to the Crown" which is singular. I suppose there is some light between the institutional and the judicial situation. Gerard von Hebel ( talk) 00:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
User Soffredo has added Niue and the Cook Islands to the list of Realms in the infobox. Since neither of them are Realms I have reverted twice. I will do so again, but not after placing this message in the talk page. Niue and the Cook Islands have a status that is for some (but not all) purposes equivalent to sovereignty. Both are states in free association with New Zealand, a state of affairs known as the Realm of New Zealand. The Queen is not distinctly head of the countries, but in her capacity as Queen of NZ, so these two countries do not belong in that list. Gerard von Hebel ( talk) 23:06, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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