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Not sure if this person / facebook page belongs to Wikipedia, but even if it does this article is not neutral. Her facebook page "I Fucking Love Science" has also received a lot of criticism for not always posting science-related news, and getting involved in political and anti-religous agenda. -- 91.152.235.120 ( talk) 17:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure why the Neil DeGrasse Tyson tidbit is in the header instead of in a trivia section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.146.59 ( talk) 18:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Could someone add some of this to the article: First Link Second Link. -- 91.152.235.120 ( talk) 10:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Someone might like to check that she actually has a degree. Although she has stated that she does, she missed a lot of time in her third year at Sheffield University (not Leicester as stated in the bio box). Although she didn't miss a heartbeat on Facebook in that time. To the best of my knowledge, she wasn't allowed to sit the final exams due to absenteeism and was offered a resit. I do not believe that she took that offer. As a result, I propose that the only evidence of a biology dgree is from Elise herself. There are ways to check. Not least of which being asking her directly, which you would have to do in order to check with the University. As this is a wiki page and not just some blog, it is in Wikipedia's interests to make sure that the information given is correct. http://www.shef.ac.uk/ssid/verification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.89.195 ( talk) 13:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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A note that the subject of this article is a friend of mine, and as a result, a conflict of interests may be construed. WilliamH ( talk) 11:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
User SarahStierch tend to be in close association with Elise, and both are Facebook friends. The article is includes excessive advocacy and contains wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner. For example, the part about her being called "Neil deGrasse Tyson of Facebook" is completely unnecessary. Wikipedia is meant to be factual and not be be used as a means of advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wormatic ( talk • contribs)
In this version of the bio I wrote the following:
On 13 September 2013 she married her fiancé Jake Rivett.[6] On Twitter she posted a photo of herself in a bridal gown holding a tarantula spider in her hand.[7] She said she would wait "a long time" to have children.[6]
Some of that information comes from Tim Teeman's "Why millions love Elise Andrew's science page" in The Guardian. Teeman quotes Andrew saying "I'm about to marry my fiancé, Jake. He's my best friend and I don't know how I'd cope without him. I don't want children for a long time, but we may get a springer spaniel."
I mixed up my references and said in reference #7, the actual Twitter post, that Teeman linked to a Twitter photo by Andrew showing her holding a spider. This was wrong: it was Barbara Fletcher's piece written for Ozy magazine: "Elise Andrew F*cking Loves Science", from 3 January 2014. Fletcher wrote:
Despite all the 'crazy' she continues to update the site daily and even invites people into her personal life via her personal social media pages. Like when she bought a pair of Catwoman pumps and when a creepy guest showed up to her Sept. 13 wedding.
The link posted by Fletcher under "creepy guest" was a Twitter photo posted by Andrew. It was plainly visible a week ago on 20 January when I added that bit to the article. However, the photo has since been removed. Google has cached it here, showing a watermark which credits the image to Justine Ferrari Photography based in Suffolk. (This photographer obviously shot the wedding, having listed it as a client under Elise and Jake at Long Melford Wedding.) Other photos of the same funny spider/bride combination were posted, such as this one with Jake Rivett and Elise Andrew both holding the tarantula, and this one with Andrew bending toward the photographer while holding the spider. All of these have since been removed from Twitter. Apparently, the IP editor 178.21.232.54 in Suffolk, UK, who repeatedly removed this bit, has administrator access over Andrew's Twitter account, even though Andrew lives in Canada. Directly after the IP ceased editing, the account EliseOfficial was started and began doing the same removals, leading me to think that there is an IFLS administrator working from Suffolk, one who is very protective of Andrew, one who just started a user account.
I want to share my impression of this sequence so that editors here will understand what happened to the tarantula bit. Binksternet ( talk) 22:05, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
"I fucking love science" should be written with only the "I" in upper-case, as the official Facebook page displays the title in this way. I have changed all instances that I could see.-- Soulparadox ( talk) 22:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
I agree. Talk:Elise_Andrew#capitalization_of_.22I_fucking_love_science.22 24.97.201.230 ( talk) 17:34, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
This is not a content page, but a discussion page. Despite what people think, you don't have to cite sources here. Thus, the following comment has been restored JackFloridian ( talk)
I've looked into this, and I've found about two dozen people who all say the same thing: "I fucking love science" was originally created by eight people, not just Elise Andrew. And the moment they began to get media attention, Elise Andrew booted her fellow admins and claimed credit for everything. They also say she has a bad history of plagiarism. JackFloridian ( talk) 18:22, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I actually found a record of a lawsuit being filed against her for plagiarism, but using it as a basis would be first-hand research. So... 107.145.197.15 ( talk) 14:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
There is now an article on Skepchick.org talking about Elise Andrew and her treatment of the other founders of IFLS, specifically how she booted them and took all the credit as soon as the site started generating revenue. I'll try and find a specific link. JackFloridian ( talk) 16:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
re: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Elise_Andrew&diff=602469725&oldid=602468306
Elise Andrew is the founder of "I fucking love science" not "I Fucking Love Science."
See the page: https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience 24.97.201.230 ( talk) 17:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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The blogs are usually not usable for a WP:BLP, there may be exceptions... — Paleo Neonate – 08:57, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Did they politely and exhaustively rebrand themselves at some point in the last few years? The website and Facebook page now use the name "IFLScience" exclusively, and a Google search limited to the iflscience.com domain returns only three minor blog entries that use the phrase "I Fucking Love Science". -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 18:33, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
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Not sure if this person / facebook page belongs to Wikipedia, but even if it does this article is not neutral. Her facebook page "I Fucking Love Science" has also received a lot of criticism for not always posting science-related news, and getting involved in political and anti-religous agenda. -- 91.152.235.120 ( talk) 17:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure why the Neil DeGrasse Tyson tidbit is in the header instead of in a trivia section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.146.59 ( talk) 18:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Could someone add some of this to the article: First Link Second Link. -- 91.152.235.120 ( talk) 10:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Someone might like to check that she actually has a degree. Although she has stated that she does, she missed a lot of time in her third year at Sheffield University (not Leicester as stated in the bio box). Although she didn't miss a heartbeat on Facebook in that time. To the best of my knowledge, she wasn't allowed to sit the final exams due to absenteeism and was offered a resit. I do not believe that she took that offer. As a result, I propose that the only evidence of a biology dgree is from Elise herself. There are ways to check. Not least of which being asking her directly, which you would have to do in order to check with the University. As this is a wiki page and not just some blog, it is in Wikipedia's interests to make sure that the information given is correct. http://www.shef.ac.uk/ssid/verification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.89.195 ( talk) 13:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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A note that the subject of this article is a friend of mine, and as a result, a conflict of interests may be construed. WilliamH ( talk) 11:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
User SarahStierch tend to be in close association with Elise, and both are Facebook friends. The article is includes excessive advocacy and contains wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner. For example, the part about her being called "Neil deGrasse Tyson of Facebook" is completely unnecessary. Wikipedia is meant to be factual and not be be used as a means of advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wormatic ( talk • contribs)
In this version of the bio I wrote the following:
On 13 September 2013 she married her fiancé Jake Rivett.[6] On Twitter she posted a photo of herself in a bridal gown holding a tarantula spider in her hand.[7] She said she would wait "a long time" to have children.[6]
Some of that information comes from Tim Teeman's "Why millions love Elise Andrew's science page" in The Guardian. Teeman quotes Andrew saying "I'm about to marry my fiancé, Jake. He's my best friend and I don't know how I'd cope without him. I don't want children for a long time, but we may get a springer spaniel."
I mixed up my references and said in reference #7, the actual Twitter post, that Teeman linked to a Twitter photo by Andrew showing her holding a spider. This was wrong: it was Barbara Fletcher's piece written for Ozy magazine: "Elise Andrew F*cking Loves Science", from 3 January 2014. Fletcher wrote:
Despite all the 'crazy' she continues to update the site daily and even invites people into her personal life via her personal social media pages. Like when she bought a pair of Catwoman pumps and when a creepy guest showed up to her Sept. 13 wedding.
The link posted by Fletcher under "creepy guest" was a Twitter photo posted by Andrew. It was plainly visible a week ago on 20 January when I added that bit to the article. However, the photo has since been removed. Google has cached it here, showing a watermark which credits the image to Justine Ferrari Photography based in Suffolk. (This photographer obviously shot the wedding, having listed it as a client under Elise and Jake at Long Melford Wedding.) Other photos of the same funny spider/bride combination were posted, such as this one with Jake Rivett and Elise Andrew both holding the tarantula, and this one with Andrew bending toward the photographer while holding the spider. All of these have since been removed from Twitter. Apparently, the IP editor 178.21.232.54 in Suffolk, UK, who repeatedly removed this bit, has administrator access over Andrew's Twitter account, even though Andrew lives in Canada. Directly after the IP ceased editing, the account EliseOfficial was started and began doing the same removals, leading me to think that there is an IFLS administrator working from Suffolk, one who is very protective of Andrew, one who just started a user account.
I want to share my impression of this sequence so that editors here will understand what happened to the tarantula bit. Binksternet ( talk) 22:05, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
"I fucking love science" should be written with only the "I" in upper-case, as the official Facebook page displays the title in this way. I have changed all instances that I could see.-- Soulparadox ( talk) 22:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
I agree. Talk:Elise_Andrew#capitalization_of_.22I_fucking_love_science.22 24.97.201.230 ( talk) 17:34, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
This is not a content page, but a discussion page. Despite what people think, you don't have to cite sources here. Thus, the following comment has been restored JackFloridian ( talk)
I've looked into this, and I've found about two dozen people who all say the same thing: "I fucking love science" was originally created by eight people, not just Elise Andrew. And the moment they began to get media attention, Elise Andrew booted her fellow admins and claimed credit for everything. They also say she has a bad history of plagiarism. JackFloridian ( talk) 18:22, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I actually found a record of a lawsuit being filed against her for plagiarism, but using it as a basis would be first-hand research. So... 107.145.197.15 ( talk) 14:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
There is now an article on Skepchick.org talking about Elise Andrew and her treatment of the other founders of IFLS, specifically how she booted them and took all the credit as soon as the site started generating revenue. I'll try and find a specific link. JackFloridian ( talk) 16:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
re: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Elise_Andrew&diff=602469725&oldid=602468306
Elise Andrew is the founder of "I fucking love science" not "I Fucking Love Science."
See the page: https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience 24.97.201.230 ( talk) 17:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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The blogs are usually not usable for a WP:BLP, there may be exceptions... — Paleo Neonate – 08:57, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Did they politely and exhaustively rebrand themselves at some point in the last few years? The website and Facebook page now use the name "IFLScience" exclusively, and a Google search limited to the iflscience.com domain returns only three minor blog entries that use the phrase "I Fucking Love Science". -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 18:33, 20 June 2021 (UTC)