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Energy use in society includes sources of energy used for heating, transportation and electricity. Electricity is in fact a way of intermediating energy from the original sources ( such as burning something or using the potential energy of falling water ) to the point of use.
It is unfortunately common but also misleading and wrong to talk about aspect of energy use in society as only including electricity when other uses such as gas for heating and cooking and gasoline/diesel for transportation are used as well. Eregli bob ( talk) 05:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the following section from the article as it is confusing. I'm not sure why hydro, wind and geothermal are being discussed separately to renewables. And I'm not sure why the renewables section talks about coal-fired power stations. Johnfos ( talk) 08:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
As of 2007, renewable energy sources made up 70% of the nation's (electric) energy production, with a commitment by the government to increase the share to 90% by 2025 [1] (however, Greenpeace estimates only about 60% of New Zealand's energy as currently being from renewable sources). [2] Only one major coal-fired plant exists, the Huntly power station, and proposals for new construction/reactivation of other coal plants have been brought down by legal or political means. [2]
There is also a ban on government-owned electricity companies building new fossil fuel plants, which is considered for extension to the private industry. [3] This is part of New Zealand's Labour government's vision of becoming carbon neutral by 2020. [4]
From 2010, on, New Zealand Energy Strategy will see levies for Greenhouse effect emissions to be added to power prices depending on the level of emissions. [5]
References
I propose a merge with Electricity in New Zealand. Possibly keep the other page's name, but the content of this page is a lot more substantial and better referenced. We might add some elements from the other one to it of course, that's the point about merging them. Ingolfson ( talk) 09:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to see a chart showing contribution from specific sources (e.g. hydro, wind, coal, oil, geothermal, etc.) in relation to the total, but I don't think there's enough information in the article so far to construct that. -- Beland ( talk) 02:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Here are two charts. Mrfebruary ( talk) 10:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Here is a barchart of electricity generating capacity by energy source. Does this have a place in the page? Mrfebruary ( talk) 01:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
What is the definition of energy efficient when applied to a country? There is an unverified (except for unverified claim on an activist website) statement that NZ is one of the least energy efficient countries. What data is this conclusion based on? Suggest this statement should be clarified and verified, or removed. -- Pakaraki ( talk) 07:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the following content from a section called "Supply Issues" that was previously under Transmission. It deals more with with energy security than transmission, and is now out of date.
The topic of energy security (as opposed to transmission security) may warrant a section on its own. Marshelec ( talk) 08:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
References
The first paragraph says "Despite being slightly above global average in the list of countries by energy intensity". It links to "List of countries by energy intensity" which shows New Zealand as 206.4 while the global averag is said to be 212.9. I might be reading the table wrong, but it seems like New Zealand is slightly below, not above. 130.216.24.174 ( talk) 01:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
With help from other editors, I hope to complete a significant update of this article.
However, we need to decide what to do with the tables in the Generation sector - particularly those showing a split of generation by North/South Island (both installed capacity and energy generated). MBIE no longer publishes data showing this split, so these tables are frozen in time as at 2014. The split by island seems to be a "nice-to-have" rather than essential for this article, and I propose to delete the two tables. I also plan to update the timeline graphs of national energy generated and national installed capacity, and will get on with this. I will hold off from deleting the tables for a few days to see if there is any feedback. Marshelec ( talk) 07:07, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
I plan to relocate much of the detailed content of this section into the main article Hydroelectric power in New Zealand, leaving only a summary of a few paragraphs. This will help to keep the Electricity sector article more concise. Marshelec ( talk) 07:55, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
The complete Electricity sector article is quite long, at 37kB (5,766 words) "readable prose size" at present - although it is less than the threshold for splitting suggested in WP:SIZERULE. The history content is no doubt interesting to many readers, but perhaps it could be in a new article on its own, with just a short summary below a "main article" link. There is also content about the history of transmission and the HVDC link that could be considered for relocation to a new article on history. This would help with the readability of the Electricity sector article, and also allow some expansion of content about the current state, without the complete article becoming overly long. Thoughts ? Marshelec ( talk) 08:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Maybe these suggestions could be incorporated when the charts are updated with 2021 data.
1) Colours should match
2) Order legend vertically in same order as fuels (e.g. like below or maybe directly on the colour) so easier to match legend with chart when reading
3) Put source of data in small font light grey at bottom (like below) so that people doing a google image search don't have to click through. And also if another publication uses the chart its data source is obvious.
4) Too many colours on capacity chart - combine the smallest as "other"
5) Capacity chart scale could be GW Chidgk1 ( talk) 18:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Energy use in society includes sources of energy used for heating, transportation and electricity. Electricity is in fact a way of intermediating energy from the original sources ( such as burning something or using the potential energy of falling water ) to the point of use.
It is unfortunately common but also misleading and wrong to talk about aspect of energy use in society as only including electricity when other uses such as gas for heating and cooking and gasoline/diesel for transportation are used as well. Eregli bob ( talk) 05:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the following section from the article as it is confusing. I'm not sure why hydro, wind and geothermal are being discussed separately to renewables. And I'm not sure why the renewables section talks about coal-fired power stations. Johnfos ( talk) 08:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
As of 2007, renewable energy sources made up 70% of the nation's (electric) energy production, with a commitment by the government to increase the share to 90% by 2025 [1] (however, Greenpeace estimates only about 60% of New Zealand's energy as currently being from renewable sources). [2] Only one major coal-fired plant exists, the Huntly power station, and proposals for new construction/reactivation of other coal plants have been brought down by legal or political means. [2]
There is also a ban on government-owned electricity companies building new fossil fuel plants, which is considered for extension to the private industry. [3] This is part of New Zealand's Labour government's vision of becoming carbon neutral by 2020. [4]
From 2010, on, New Zealand Energy Strategy will see levies for Greenhouse effect emissions to be added to power prices depending on the level of emissions. [5]
References
I propose a merge with Electricity in New Zealand. Possibly keep the other page's name, but the content of this page is a lot more substantial and better referenced. We might add some elements from the other one to it of course, that's the point about merging them. Ingolfson ( talk) 09:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to see a chart showing contribution from specific sources (e.g. hydro, wind, coal, oil, geothermal, etc.) in relation to the total, but I don't think there's enough information in the article so far to construct that. -- Beland ( talk) 02:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Here are two charts. Mrfebruary ( talk) 10:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Here is a barchart of electricity generating capacity by energy source. Does this have a place in the page? Mrfebruary ( talk) 01:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
What is the definition of energy efficient when applied to a country? There is an unverified (except for unverified claim on an activist website) statement that NZ is one of the least energy efficient countries. What data is this conclusion based on? Suggest this statement should be clarified and verified, or removed. -- Pakaraki ( talk) 07:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the following content from a section called "Supply Issues" that was previously under Transmission. It deals more with with energy security than transmission, and is now out of date.
The topic of energy security (as opposed to transmission security) may warrant a section on its own. Marshelec ( talk) 08:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
References
The first paragraph says "Despite being slightly above global average in the list of countries by energy intensity". It links to "List of countries by energy intensity" which shows New Zealand as 206.4 while the global averag is said to be 212.9. I might be reading the table wrong, but it seems like New Zealand is slightly below, not above. 130.216.24.174 ( talk) 01:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
With help from other editors, I hope to complete a significant update of this article.
However, we need to decide what to do with the tables in the Generation sector - particularly those showing a split of generation by North/South Island (both installed capacity and energy generated). MBIE no longer publishes data showing this split, so these tables are frozen in time as at 2014. The split by island seems to be a "nice-to-have" rather than essential for this article, and I propose to delete the two tables. I also plan to update the timeline graphs of national energy generated and national installed capacity, and will get on with this. I will hold off from deleting the tables for a few days to see if there is any feedback. Marshelec ( talk) 07:07, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
I plan to relocate much of the detailed content of this section into the main article Hydroelectric power in New Zealand, leaving only a summary of a few paragraphs. This will help to keep the Electricity sector article more concise. Marshelec ( talk) 07:55, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
The complete Electricity sector article is quite long, at 37kB (5,766 words) "readable prose size" at present - although it is less than the threshold for splitting suggested in WP:SIZERULE. The history content is no doubt interesting to many readers, but perhaps it could be in a new article on its own, with just a short summary below a "main article" link. There is also content about the history of transmission and the HVDC link that could be considered for relocation to a new article on history. This would help with the readability of the Electricity sector article, and also allow some expansion of content about the current state, without the complete article becoming overly long. Thoughts ? Marshelec ( talk) 08:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Maybe these suggestions could be incorporated when the charts are updated with 2021 data.
1) Colours should match
2) Order legend vertically in same order as fuels (e.g. like below or maybe directly on the colour) so easier to match legend with chart when reading
3) Put source of data in small font light grey at bottom (like below) so that people doing a google image search don't have to click through. And also if another publication uses the chart its data source is obvious.
4) Too many colours on capacity chart - combine the smallest as "other"
5) Capacity chart scale could be GW Chidgk1 ( talk) 18:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)