Wouldn't extreme tight lacing make pregnancy impossible?-- 68.193.135.139 ( talk) 01:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe really, really extreme lacing. There's no signs this was ever practiced during pregnancy, and in fact there were "maternity corsets" with a busk designed to curve over the stomach and extra lacing that adjusted as the fetus grew. Also, I imagine some kind of support was necessary. What with no bras, you had to support your growing breasts somehow. happythoughts ( talk) 18:07, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I don't really edit much but liver effects should probably have better wording that using the words "bad blood." Perhaps someone should use the correct medical term. 172.3.161.97 ( talk) 18:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
I find some of the claims highly specious, and the citations are really poor: citing a nineteenth century health book on causes of breast cancer? Inappropriate. — Preceding
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- Agreed. For one thing, the fact that the intro says tight-lacing ended in the late 18th century yet uses 19th century sources should have been a sign to someone. It's interesting to note the use of modern sources on diseases/conditions separate from corsetry, giving the impression that modern scientists are stating that corsets cause these issues. I have made several edits, trimming out unnecessary article-summarizing, noting the age of Victorian sources, and citing Valerie Steele's specific refutations of various ailments. -- 67.248.243.89 ( talk) 00:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The article seems to primarily consist of a list of centuries old claims about tight lacing followed by statements that those claims were incorrect, taken almost entirely or wholly from a single source. So additional sources are needed to corroborate these very definitive statements. Furthermore, this form of historical belief followed by debunking it makes the article seem much more pertinent to the history of tight lacing or Victorian medical knowledge (or a subsection about historical beliefs in a more robust version of this article). Additional sources and a rewrite will hopefully yield an article that focuses more on positive statements regarding the effects of tight lacing than negative statement about what they are not. korbnep « talk» 15:49, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- I have tried to do more research on the topic and have found very few reliable sources. It seems that after the corset went out of fashion, interest in researching their health effects did as well. Either the article needs to be retitled "purported effects," or rolled into the Tightlacing article. happythoughts ( talk) 17:09, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is it worth noting that the source most frequently cited for physical/medical effects, Valerie Steele, is primarily a fashion historian? Morfusmax ( talk) 20:44, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
This article seems redundant 75.94.89.240 ( talk) 05:34, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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Honestly, this entire article reads like a corset advocate lined up a bunch of negative arguments specifically in order to shoot them down, in order to support their own agenda. It's not encyclopedic at all. -- Hux ( talk) 04:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Wouldn't extreme tight lacing make pregnancy impossible?-- 68.193.135.139 ( talk) 01:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe really, really extreme lacing. There's no signs this was ever practiced during pregnancy, and in fact there were "maternity corsets" with a busk designed to curve over the stomach and extra lacing that adjusted as the fetus grew. Also, I imagine some kind of support was necessary. What with no bras, you had to support your growing breasts somehow. happythoughts ( talk) 18:07, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I don't really edit much but liver effects should probably have better wording that using the words "bad blood." Perhaps someone should use the correct medical term. 172.3.161.97 ( talk) 18:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
I find some of the claims highly specious, and the citations are really poor: citing a nineteenth century health book on causes of breast cancer? Inappropriate. — Preceding
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05:16, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. For one thing, the fact that the intro says tight-lacing ended in the late 18th century yet uses 19th century sources should have been a sign to someone. It's interesting to note the use of modern sources on diseases/conditions separate from corsetry, giving the impression that modern scientists are stating that corsets cause these issues. I have made several edits, trimming out unnecessary article-summarizing, noting the age of Victorian sources, and citing Valerie Steele's specific refutations of various ailments. -- 67.248.243.89 ( talk) 00:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- The article seems to primarily consist of a list of centuries old claims about tight lacing followed by statements that those claims were incorrect, taken almost entirely or wholly from a single source. So additional sources are needed to corroborate these very definitive statements. Furthermore, this form of historical belief followed by debunking it makes the article seem much more pertinent to the history of tight lacing or Victorian medical knowledge (or a subsection about historical beliefs in a more robust version of this article). Additional sources and a rewrite will hopefully yield an article that focuses more on positive statements regarding the effects of tight lacing than negative statement about what they are not. korbnep « talk» 15:49, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- I have tried to do more research on the topic and have found very few reliable sources. It seems that after the corset went out of fashion, interest in researching their health effects did as well. Either the article needs to be retitled "purported effects," or rolled into the Tightlacing article. happythoughts ( talk) 17:09, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is it worth noting that the source most frequently cited for physical/medical effects, Valerie Steele, is primarily a fashion historian? Morfusmax ( talk) 20:44, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
This article seems redundant 75.94.89.240 ( talk) 05:34, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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Honestly, this entire article reads like a corset advocate lined up a bunch of negative arguments specifically in order to shoot them down, in order to support their own agenda. It's not encyclopedic at all. -- Hux ( talk) 04:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)