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No mention of Byron's sword?
A substantial chunk of Ron Rosenbaum's new book, The Shakespeare Wars, is given to a description of Byron's reaction to seeing Kean in a Shakespearean performance. Byron was so carried away he had a sword made, and engraved, just to present it to Kean. That sword became famous, as a token that its possessor was the greatest Shakespearean actor of his time. Gielgud had the sword for 15 years, and passed it on to Laurence Olivier.
This sword ought to be mentioned in the Kean article, no? Anyway, I'll work something up soon if no one else does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christofurio ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 19 November 2006
We have (in the 8th of currently 15 'graphs)
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There seems to be a lack of certainty about his date of birth. According to this, it was either 4 November 1787 (as we currently have it) or 17 March 1789, but the source for both dates was the same person, Charlotte Tidswell. A lot of internet sources give just the 1789 date without any mention of any other. So, is there any source clarifying this matter and giving us some sort of certainty? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 23:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Edmund Kean's date of birth
I asked a question @ Talk:Edmund Kean#Date of birth, but it has not exactly taken the interest of the world by storm.
Essentially, the same source for the date we have (4 November 1787) also gave an alternative date (17 March 1789). That later date appears in many online searches, without any mention of the earlier one. And vice-versa.
Has this ever been resolved? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
...scarcely possible to imagine the year of his birth to have been later than 1787.
Notwithstanding certain lausibilities to the contrary the parentage and birth-place of Edmund Kean are not involved in the slightest uncertainty. He was born on the 4th of November, 1787.
So far as there seems to be any weight of opinion in this none-too-important matter, that weight is for 1787
...certainly 17th March, and the year was very probably 1789
I have accepted Professor Hillebrand's assessment...
Kean, Edmund (1787–1833), actor, was born on 4 November 1787 [...] Kean's date of birth and parentage have both been disputed.Chuntuk ( talk) 16:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
I saw German actor Will Quadflieg in the German version of Sartre's "Kean" in Hamburg, back in the early 1970s. Had no idea who Kean was then. BubbleDine ( talk) 14:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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No mention of Byron's sword?
A substantial chunk of Ron Rosenbaum's new book, The Shakespeare Wars, is given to a description of Byron's reaction to seeing Kean in a Shakespearean performance. Byron was so carried away he had a sword made, and engraved, just to present it to Kean. That sword became famous, as a token that its possessor was the greatest Shakespearean actor of his time. Gielgud had the sword for 15 years, and passed it on to Laurence Olivier.
This sword ought to be mentioned in the Kean article, no? Anyway, I'll work something up soon if no one else does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christofurio ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 19 November 2006
We have (in the 8th of currently 15 'graphs)
but
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There seems to be a lack of certainty about his date of birth. According to this, it was either 4 November 1787 (as we currently have it) or 17 March 1789, but the source for both dates was the same person, Charlotte Tidswell. A lot of internet sources give just the 1789 date without any mention of any other. So, is there any source clarifying this matter and giving us some sort of certainty? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 23:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Edmund Kean's date of birth
I asked a question @ Talk:Edmund Kean#Date of birth, but it has not exactly taken the interest of the world by storm.
Essentially, the same source for the date we have (4 November 1787) also gave an alternative date (17 March 1789). That later date appears in many online searches, without any mention of the earlier one. And vice-versa.
Has this ever been resolved? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
...scarcely possible to imagine the year of his birth to have been later than 1787.
Notwithstanding certain lausibilities to the contrary the parentage and birth-place of Edmund Kean are not involved in the slightest uncertainty. He was born on the 4th of November, 1787.
So far as there seems to be any weight of opinion in this none-too-important matter, that weight is for 1787
...certainly 17th March, and the year was very probably 1789
I have accepted Professor Hillebrand's assessment...
Kean, Edmund (1787–1833), actor, was born on 4 November 1787 [...] Kean's date of birth and parentage have both been disputed.Chuntuk ( talk) 16:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
I saw German actor Will Quadflieg in the German version of Sartre's "Kean" in Hamburg, back in the early 1970s. Had no idea who Kean was then. BubbleDine ( talk) 14:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)