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Interesting fact of Edith Roosevelt was against Franklin Roosevelt in 1932. The F.D.R. side was against Ted Roosevelt running for governor of New York State at that time. The T.R. side did not forgive them for that. though Alice was one to switch side to side at times. Another interesting story at another time.
Robert L. Jones History Major U.S/ World —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.142.123.168 ( talk) 02:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm as confused as hell. All three variants occur in the article and I'm sure at least one of them is an error. Trouble is, I don't know the true from the false.
So, what's it to be, folks? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 09:24, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
From the section on Race:"According to biographer Lewis Gould, careful reading of Edith's private correspondence reveals racial views that go beyond what he calls the genteel bigotry" of her time." This says *nothing*. What the heck does "views beyond genteel bigotry" even MEAN?? Does it mean she was less racist or more?? And why should a reader in the 2020's have a grasp of what "the genteel" thought about African-Americans in 1900? I believe it's fair to say there was *nothing* "genteel" about what most White Americans thought about Blacks. (and Jews, and Italians, and Irish, and Eastern Europeans, and Asians, and...). And why would one person's opinion (Gould's) be given ANY weight? Next, the article goes on with:"In 1902 and 1903 "Misses Turner and Miss Leech" performed at the Roosevelt White House. The women specialized in "Negro Songs" and Lewis Gould argued that by showcasing these performers, Edith entertained "guests with crude melodic stereotypes depicting an oppressed racial minority" Again what he argues is rubbish. It is nonsense to claim that a White House recital of some notable performers is anything but what it seems - entertainment. I don't know who Gould is, but perhaps he is unaware that "Negro Songs" were a thing back then. This entire paragraph should be removed. Also. Later Life: "Before her death, Edith destroyed almost all of her correspondence with her husband. However, Edith was a prodigious letter writer and her letters survive in archives such as the Houghton Library." Awkward. I suggest this:"Edith was a prodigious letter writer and her many of her surviving letters reside in archives such as the Houghton Library. Before her death however, Edith destroyed almost all of her correspondence with her husband so that little (almost none?) (none?) of that correspondence remains." 174.131.48.89 ( talk) 18:15, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
This sentence: "While First Lady of the state, Edith began a custom that would continue in the White House—she held a bouquet of flowers in each hand." makes no sense. Two bouquets--when? Where? Why? All the time? Was she *always* holding two bouquets? Tttttarleton ( talk) 19:02, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: Thebiguglyalien ( talk · contribs) 23:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: HistoryTheorist ( talk · contribs) 23:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Hey! I'd like to review this article. This article might take a bit of time for me to review as it's a bit longer and final exams are coming up for me, but I should have it mostly completed by next Sunday (or maybe even next next Sunday because I might need to take a trek to the Seattle Central library to get some of those juicy print-disabled books). ❤History Theorist❤ 23:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Update: Final exams are over, so I can really dig into the review. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find two of the print-disabled books at the library and ILL will be too slow, but I'll do the best with what I've got. ❤History Theorist❤ 19:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Update 2: @ Thebiguglyalien: I have reviewed enough of the article to be (mostly) done giving comments. I am going to put it on hold and will give you 8 days (I'm leaving for vacation on June 27) to respond to the comments. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or clarifications. ❤History Theorist❤ 22:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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Interesting fact of Edith Roosevelt was against Franklin Roosevelt in 1932. The F.D.R. side was against Ted Roosevelt running for governor of New York State at that time. The T.R. side did not forgive them for that. though Alice was one to switch side to side at times. Another interesting story at another time.
Robert L. Jones History Major U.S/ World —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.142.123.168 ( talk) 02:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm as confused as hell. All three variants occur in the article and I'm sure at least one of them is an error. Trouble is, I don't know the true from the false.
So, what's it to be, folks? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 09:24, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
From the section on Race:"According to biographer Lewis Gould, careful reading of Edith's private correspondence reveals racial views that go beyond what he calls the genteel bigotry" of her time." This says *nothing*. What the heck does "views beyond genteel bigotry" even MEAN?? Does it mean she was less racist or more?? And why should a reader in the 2020's have a grasp of what "the genteel" thought about African-Americans in 1900? I believe it's fair to say there was *nothing* "genteel" about what most White Americans thought about Blacks. (and Jews, and Italians, and Irish, and Eastern Europeans, and Asians, and...). And why would one person's opinion (Gould's) be given ANY weight? Next, the article goes on with:"In 1902 and 1903 "Misses Turner and Miss Leech" performed at the Roosevelt White House. The women specialized in "Negro Songs" and Lewis Gould argued that by showcasing these performers, Edith entertained "guests with crude melodic stereotypes depicting an oppressed racial minority" Again what he argues is rubbish. It is nonsense to claim that a White House recital of some notable performers is anything but what it seems - entertainment. I don't know who Gould is, but perhaps he is unaware that "Negro Songs" were a thing back then. This entire paragraph should be removed. Also. Later Life: "Before her death, Edith destroyed almost all of her correspondence with her husband. However, Edith was a prodigious letter writer and her letters survive in archives such as the Houghton Library." Awkward. I suggest this:"Edith was a prodigious letter writer and her many of her surviving letters reside in archives such as the Houghton Library. Before her death however, Edith destroyed almost all of her correspondence with her husband so that little (almost none?) (none?) of that correspondence remains." 174.131.48.89 ( talk) 18:15, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
This sentence: "While First Lady of the state, Edith began a custom that would continue in the White House—she held a bouquet of flowers in each hand." makes no sense. Two bouquets--when? Where? Why? All the time? Was she *always* holding two bouquets? Tttttarleton ( talk) 19:02, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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Nominator: Thebiguglyalien ( talk · contribs) 23:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: HistoryTheorist ( talk · contribs) 23:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Hey! I'd like to review this article. This article might take a bit of time for me to review as it's a bit longer and final exams are coming up for me, but I should have it mostly completed by next Sunday (or maybe even next next Sunday because I might need to take a trek to the Seattle Central library to get some of those juicy print-disabled books). ❤History Theorist❤ 23:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Update: Final exams are over, so I can really dig into the review. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find two of the print-disabled books at the library and ILL will be too slow, but I'll do the best with what I've got. ❤History Theorist❤ 19:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Update 2: @ Thebiguglyalien: I have reviewed enough of the article to be (mostly) done giving comments. I am going to put it on hold and will give you 8 days (I'm leaving for vacation on June 27) to respond to the comments. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or clarifications. ❤History Theorist❤ 22:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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