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I'm concerned with this part: "...his anti-Semitism became apparent by the mid-1870s. His 1879 painting Portraits at the Stock Exchange is widely regarded as anti-Semitic, with the facial features of the banker taken directly from the anti-Semitic cartoons rampant in Paris at the time.[49]"
My objections are these: 1) The work cannot be widely regarded as anti-Semitic because it isn't widely regarded at all. Its claim to fame is being a minor work by a famous artist. 2) The connection between anti-Semitic caricatures and this work of art are not established, they're speculated.
The link is essentially a blogpost. The critical source by Paula Hymen, "The French Jewish Community from Emancipation to the Dreyfus Affair," isn't even properly cited therein. I think this short section needs to be re-written with proper citations, heavily pruned, or removed altogether. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MusselParty ( talk • contribs) 02:30, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
The last line could be correctly written in more than one way.
"Today, paintings by Degas can sell for more than US$16 million."
"Today, prices for paintings by Degas can exceed US$16 million."
"Today, prices for paintings by Degas reach no less than US$16 million."
However, prices do not sell. Paintings sell.
--E.C.
I removed this part because I am unsure if it is correct:
In Montmartre, he had an affair with one of his models, Suzanne Valadon. Degas would encourage her efforts to paint and she would eventually become one of the best known female artists of the day.
While this paper gives much information, I am not sure who wrote it, when it was copyrighted, and if it has a special "volume" numer. I'm sorry, but I just need all of this for a bibliography project. :)
Isn't possible to add in a more personal section of the life of Degas. About the time and culture of the Paris, in combination of the impressionist movement, for example. Especially his view of women is very important for his work and the time period, there is absolutely no reference to that.
I find the amouth of sculptures, found back on wiki, pour. Also the links sculpture and painting in the last section does not forward to those of his, maybe someone knows how to correct this. -- Grim Reaper2 15:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
To my mind a great many of the citations in this article are superfluous. Anybody wanting to confirm that Degas' family was fairly wealthy, or that he once met Ingres, or helped organize the 1st Impressionist exhibit, could check the index of any one of the books listed as references & find the right passage instantly. When facts are neither recondite nor disputed, an excess of cites just disrupts the flow of text. If nobody objects I propose to do some pruning. Ewulp 06:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Did it Ewulp 03:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Would like to propose the following articles for external links: Realistic Painting - Impressionism, Degas - http://www.oldandsold.com/articles34/french-art-18.shtml Smithville 00:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It says on these sites [1] [2] that he has middle names Germain and Hilaire. But some sites like this one [3] use it as an address or as his first name. Alus 22:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Lots of excellent research, elaboration, and clarification have been accomplished recently, but it seems to me that the observation made here on November 7 may be relevant again. JNW 04:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the section on the New Orleans house where Degas stayed with family for five months, not two years as the link stated. What might be useful here, folded into the career section, would be mention of the New Orleans stay, and the work resulting from it. The house itself, apparently now a bed and breakfast, might merit a footnote if it is not attached to a spam site, but not a separate heading with several paragraphs of content. Shall we have a distinct heading for each building he lived and created in? JNW 13:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
See the discussion over here. I'd like to keep it in one place. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 21:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
How is his last name pronounced? -- John ( talk) 23:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
What's the source? I can't find one that favors the audible "s", e.g. Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary (2nd edition) gives "de-gä" (with tilde over the e); Kaltenbach, 1972, in Dictionary of Pronunciation of Artists' Names says "dug-ah (absolutely not day-gass!)"; Oxford American Dictionaries has "dāˈgä". Ewulp ( talk) 03:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Sickert wrote in 1929: "Degas is now, beyond remedy, pronounced in England by some peers, all professors of Art, neo-curators, and even some picture dealers, as if the name were Des Gas, like Desboutin, Desmarolles, Desanges, etc., instead of like De La Calprenede, De Musset, De Neuville, De Ste Croix, etc", adding: "Degas ran the two syllables of his name together on his canvases because he did not wish to emphasise the particle in his trade signature, just as Henry Irving did not print the 'Sir' in his programmes." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.27.153 ( talk) 15:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Edgar Degas used the name Degas, his family however used the name de Gas, suggesting some sort of nobility. The family tomb in Montmartre Cemetery in Paris carries the name de Gas. They were none the less proud of Edgar as is shown by the plaque on the door.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by JHvW ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
My art master in 1959 Wilfrid Puddephat was a stickler for accuracy and not accepting commonly held opinions, even of the established art world. He insisted that everyone was wrong and that Degas came from an area of France with an unusual and pronounced local dialect that pronounced the name 'Duh-gass'.
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A rather oversized gallery of images has grown on the article. I believe that's what Commons if for. -- Infrogmation ( talk) 18:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
is there anyway we can ad something on this painting to the article? this is all the info i currently have on it, maybe you can tell me if its appropriate and where? http://discovermagazine.com/photos/12-darwins-dystopias-ghastly-visions-inspired-by-the-theory-of-evolution Killemall22 ( talk) 15:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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There are 257 Artworks of Edgar Degas on ArtGalleryEnc.com with information about the year, material, dimensions, museums added for each Artwork. Vv.Grecu
Vv.Grecu —Preceding undated comment added 21:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
The recent Degas sculpture controversy came up at Yank Barry, but it's really a Degas issue. Some references:
If anyone wants to update the article, go for it. I don't have the art expertise. John Nagle ( talk) 05:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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I'm concerned with this part: "...his anti-Semitism became apparent by the mid-1870s. His 1879 painting Portraits at the Stock Exchange is widely regarded as anti-Semitic, with the facial features of the banker taken directly from the anti-Semitic cartoons rampant in Paris at the time.[49]"
My objections are these: 1) The work cannot be widely regarded as anti-Semitic because it isn't widely regarded at all. Its claim to fame is being a minor work by a famous artist. 2) The connection between anti-Semitic caricatures and this work of art are not established, they're speculated.
The link is essentially a blogpost. The critical source by Paula Hymen, "The French Jewish Community from Emancipation to the Dreyfus Affair," isn't even properly cited therein. I think this short section needs to be re-written with proper citations, heavily pruned, or removed altogether. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MusselParty ( talk • contribs) 02:30, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
The last line could be correctly written in more than one way.
"Today, paintings by Degas can sell for more than US$16 million."
"Today, prices for paintings by Degas can exceed US$16 million."
"Today, prices for paintings by Degas reach no less than US$16 million."
However, prices do not sell. Paintings sell.
--E.C.
I removed this part because I am unsure if it is correct:
In Montmartre, he had an affair with one of his models, Suzanne Valadon. Degas would encourage her efforts to paint and she would eventually become one of the best known female artists of the day.
While this paper gives much information, I am not sure who wrote it, when it was copyrighted, and if it has a special "volume" numer. I'm sorry, but I just need all of this for a bibliography project. :)
Isn't possible to add in a more personal section of the life of Degas. About the time and culture of the Paris, in combination of the impressionist movement, for example. Especially his view of women is very important for his work and the time period, there is absolutely no reference to that.
I find the amouth of sculptures, found back on wiki, pour. Also the links sculpture and painting in the last section does not forward to those of his, maybe someone knows how to correct this. -- Grim Reaper2 15:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
To my mind a great many of the citations in this article are superfluous. Anybody wanting to confirm that Degas' family was fairly wealthy, or that he once met Ingres, or helped organize the 1st Impressionist exhibit, could check the index of any one of the books listed as references & find the right passage instantly. When facts are neither recondite nor disputed, an excess of cites just disrupts the flow of text. If nobody objects I propose to do some pruning. Ewulp 06:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Did it Ewulp 03:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Would like to propose the following articles for external links: Realistic Painting - Impressionism, Degas - http://www.oldandsold.com/articles34/french-art-18.shtml Smithville 00:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It says on these sites [1] [2] that he has middle names Germain and Hilaire. But some sites like this one [3] use it as an address or as his first name. Alus 22:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Lots of excellent research, elaboration, and clarification have been accomplished recently, but it seems to me that the observation made here on November 7 may be relevant again. JNW 04:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the section on the New Orleans house where Degas stayed with family for five months, not two years as the link stated. What might be useful here, folded into the career section, would be mention of the New Orleans stay, and the work resulting from it. The house itself, apparently now a bed and breakfast, might merit a footnote if it is not attached to a spam site, but not a separate heading with several paragraphs of content. Shall we have a distinct heading for each building he lived and created in? JNW 13:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
See the discussion over here. I'd like to keep it in one place. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 21:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
How is his last name pronounced? -- John ( talk) 23:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
What's the source? I can't find one that favors the audible "s", e.g. Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary (2nd edition) gives "de-gä" (with tilde over the e); Kaltenbach, 1972, in Dictionary of Pronunciation of Artists' Names says "dug-ah (absolutely not day-gass!)"; Oxford American Dictionaries has "dāˈgä". Ewulp ( talk) 03:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Sickert wrote in 1929: "Degas is now, beyond remedy, pronounced in England by some peers, all professors of Art, neo-curators, and even some picture dealers, as if the name were Des Gas, like Desboutin, Desmarolles, Desanges, etc., instead of like De La Calprenede, De Musset, De Neuville, De Ste Croix, etc", adding: "Degas ran the two syllables of his name together on his canvases because he did not wish to emphasise the particle in his trade signature, just as Henry Irving did not print the 'Sir' in his programmes." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.27.153 ( talk) 15:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Edgar Degas used the name Degas, his family however used the name de Gas, suggesting some sort of nobility. The family tomb in Montmartre Cemetery in Paris carries the name de Gas. They were none the less proud of Edgar as is shown by the plaque on the door.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by JHvW ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
My art master in 1959 Wilfrid Puddephat was a stickler for accuracy and not accepting commonly held opinions, even of the established art world. He insisted that everyone was wrong and that Degas came from an area of France with an unusual and pronounced local dialect that pronounced the name 'Duh-gass'.
86.187.170.194 (
talk) 11:02, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
A rather oversized gallery of images has grown on the article. I believe that's what Commons if for. -- Infrogmation ( talk) 18:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
is there anyway we can ad something on this painting to the article? this is all the info i currently have on it, maybe you can tell me if its appropriate and where? http://discovermagazine.com/photos/12-darwins-dystopias-ghastly-visions-inspired-by-the-theory-of-evolution Killemall22 ( talk) 15:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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There are 257 Artworks of Edgar Degas on ArtGalleryEnc.com with information about the year, material, dimensions, museums added for each Artwork. Vv.Grecu
Vv.Grecu —Preceding undated comment added 21:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
The recent Degas sculpture controversy came up at Yank Barry, but it's really a Degas issue. Some references:
If anyone wants to update the article, go for it. I don't have the art expertise. John Nagle ( talk) 05:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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