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This talk section is specifically about changing the hatnote from "This article is about Ebola virus disease diagnosed in humans in the United States" to "This article is about the response in the United States to the West African Ebola virus" and adding "There have been various responses to this, ranging from patient recovery to public fear." to the first paragraph.
More generally, this is about coming up with an overall concept of what this article is about; things that should be included and things that should not. How will we separate ourselves from Ebola virus disease, Ebola virus and Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa in order to differentiate us from a content fork?
I think the current thrust of this article is things that Americans do to combat the West African strain of Ebola that was identified in 2014 and to protect themselves. You can already see that we have a possible problem: are we talking about the US combatting Ebola or protecting the homeland? If both, do we have one term that describes both? The only thing that I can come up with is Response (of the US to the current strain of Ebola). -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 08:55, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Done and done. -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 09:02, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
"Oregon Woman Hospitalized For Possible Ebola Infection" from the Huffington Post. Please add this information to the article. Please add new Information to World Map and United States Map. Sherwood, Courtney (31 October 2014). "Oregon Woman Hospitalized For Possible Ebola Infection". Huffington Post. Portland, Oregon. Retrieved 31 October 2014. CookieMonster755 ( talk) 04:52, 1 November 2014 (UTC)CookieMonster755
The paragraph mentioning the nurse in Maine, Kaci Hickox, seems to have grown quite large. I'm wondering if it might be best, since she's past the quarantine period anyway, to reduce this per due weight to a simple paragraph that mentions: 1) she was the first person to come under the new quarantine, she tested negative, returned to Maine, subsequently was not required to be under a mandatory quarantine because she wasn't symptomatic. Any opinions? If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and reduce it, but I would like input from others on what is most important to keep. Thanks. SW3 5DL ( talk) 16:20, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a reliable source that says the New York Post is not a credible source for this news story? Specifically, do you have a source that disputes this story? Did Spencer deny this story? Did the NYPD and the NY Health Department deny this story? Did Spencer demand a retraction? I should think if this story is not credible, that Spencer would demand that this be retracted and an apology issued. SW3 5DL ( talk) 16:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
The CNBC source does not actually dispute that he lied. The spokesperson was asked a direct question about that and she declined to give a direct answer. Instead she referred the reporter back to her statement which does not contradict the New York Post. SW3 5DL ( talk) 02:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Oh shut up. Go take your tiresome pot and stir it someplace else. You've no interest at all in discussing the topic of this thread. You're only here to create a problem where none existed before you showed up. Why don't you go find something to do like actually WRITE an article? You've written ZERO articles so far. ZERO article creation after how many years on WP? And do stop making edits that show you’ve no idea what you’re talking about. SW3 5DL ( talk) 17:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
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FYI - This article has information and pictures on the US military response team [2] BlueAg09 ( Talk) 19:47, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I propose to change the current confirmed case list for more continuity and future-proofing. Currently the list is grouped as 1st, 2nd + 3rd, and 4th. I propose section headings for each case, as well as the moving of the "Monitoring of other health care workers" section into the end of the section on Thomas Duncan. This gives room to elaborate on the second and third cases, as well as direct access to either through the contents. Does this sound reasonable? Cbowman7289 ( talk) 16:22, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
I propose to update the section on Craig Spencer with photos, and add more relevant information to the section. I also propose to add more public reactions from the month of November. Aparuthi ( talk) 21:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
The article below states that there has been a total of 8 people cared for in the United States that have had the Ebola virus. It's understandable that the people in these cases have not be yet to be identified, but I would still propose to create a section where the remaining cases are noted or held as a place holder until more information comes about. If the wiki articles' main focus is confirmed Ebola cases in the U.S. then the remaining cases should also be published, even if it's with limited detail. [1] Crogand3 ( talk) 00:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2831740/Ebola-victims-family-agreement-hospital.html
SW3 5DL ( talk) 04:53, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Should the section "Cases of U.S. health care workers evacuated from West Africa" be changed to be simply as "Medical evacuations from West Africa"? Clearly the NBC crew should not be considered as a healthcare worker. Z22 ( talk) 03:24, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
He's a surgeon married to a U.S. citizen and he is a permanent resident of the U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/health/nebraska-ebola-patient/
Gremlinsa, you might be interested in this case. You've done so much work on the Sierra Leone article. SW3 5DL ( talk) 02:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks SW3 5DL.. I'll keep an eye on it.. For want of a slow Friday I'm madly busy today... Gremlinsa ( talk) 08:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Given that local transmission seems to have stopped, as everyone who had contracted Ebola there is now either dead or recovered, and therefore not infective, and that medevac cases don't count in the assessment, does anyone know the date on which the U.S. will be due to be declared Ebola-free by the WHO, if no further cases are discovered? -- Impsswoon ( talk) 14:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Someone has tagged this section as needing to be summarized. I agree the section could be reduced. I'd like to hear from others on what they think should be cut and what should be kept. Thanks. SW3 5DL ( talk) 18:28, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Reference number 4 says "group=note", which is meaningless computerese. Perhaps a new Wikidata link was intended, but I don't recognize it. Art LaPella ( talk) 05:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
In view of Time 's selection of Kent Brantly as Person of the Year, perhaps he should be profiled in a selfstanding article. Rammer ( talk) 23:19, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
These numbers in the infobox are stale. Some of the referenced values were for New York City on certain dates related to active cases there, and those people have all been cleared. But since there is still a steady flow of people entering the US from ebola-infected countries, hundreds are still being monitored. See this CBS article.
Quarantined people | 12 [2] |
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People under observation | 100+ [3] |
People under active monitoring | 357 [4] |
Cleared after 21 days | 177 as of November 7 [5] [6] |
cleared2
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I'm going to remove them, leaving this here just in case. Thundermaker ( talk) 07:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article8567759.html
It's just a possible, not confirmed. 03:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Spencer was declared Ebola-free 42 days ago, so the US should be officially Ebola-free.
Map is out of date. It should show Omaha with a red dot in a black circle. The original mapmaker has not edited in a month. Rmhermen ( talk) 19:29, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
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The story was reported also in the Breaktrough TV series. This is him when they discovered the damned virus inside one of his eyes (from which he finally recovered). Strange that Wikipedia, so really full of stuff about Ebola in USA, missed this noticeable story (reported both in TV and journals like NYT). I would hope that soon this would be implemented, also to avoid confusion with the (similar looking) dr. Brantly, also cured at Emory Hospital: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/health/weeks-after-his-recovery-ebola-lurked-in-a-doctors-eye.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.3.98 ( talk) 02:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
This is the full history of Doctor Crozier, fallen ill in september 2014 and sent to the Emory Hospital that month. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/08/health/ebola-doctor-ian-crozier-return-from-the-edge-of-death-.html?_r=0&module=inline — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.3.98 ( talk • contribs)
@ Art LaPella: You're right, my rewording wasn't that good either. But the lead sentence still needs to be reworded. It reads almost exactly like the example "wrong" sentence under MOS:AVOIDBOLD. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 16:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
The second citation needed to be updated, because the external article had changed its URL, as tends to happen on the web. However, the article only mentions one death. A better reference might be https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/10/15/356098903/ebola-in-the-united-states-what-happened-when/, which gives a timeline in paragraphs of all the events of the 2014 outbreak, including the two deaths. I am loathe to change it, since I don't know the original Wikipedia author's intent. Skaizun ( talk) 04:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
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This talk section is specifically about changing the hatnote from "This article is about Ebola virus disease diagnosed in humans in the United States" to "This article is about the response in the United States to the West African Ebola virus" and adding "There have been various responses to this, ranging from patient recovery to public fear." to the first paragraph.
More generally, this is about coming up with an overall concept of what this article is about; things that should be included and things that should not. How will we separate ourselves from Ebola virus disease, Ebola virus and Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa in order to differentiate us from a content fork?
I think the current thrust of this article is things that Americans do to combat the West African strain of Ebola that was identified in 2014 and to protect themselves. You can already see that we have a possible problem: are we talking about the US combatting Ebola or protecting the homeland? If both, do we have one term that describes both? The only thing that I can come up with is Response (of the US to the current strain of Ebola). -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 08:55, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Done and done. -- RoyGoldsmith ( talk) 09:02, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
"Oregon Woman Hospitalized For Possible Ebola Infection" from the Huffington Post. Please add this information to the article. Please add new Information to World Map and United States Map. Sherwood, Courtney (31 October 2014). "Oregon Woman Hospitalized For Possible Ebola Infection". Huffington Post. Portland, Oregon. Retrieved 31 October 2014. CookieMonster755 ( talk) 04:52, 1 November 2014 (UTC)CookieMonster755
The paragraph mentioning the nurse in Maine, Kaci Hickox, seems to have grown quite large. I'm wondering if it might be best, since she's past the quarantine period anyway, to reduce this per due weight to a simple paragraph that mentions: 1) she was the first person to come under the new quarantine, she tested negative, returned to Maine, subsequently was not required to be under a mandatory quarantine because she wasn't symptomatic. Any opinions? If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and reduce it, but I would like input from others on what is most important to keep. Thanks. SW3 5DL ( talk) 16:20, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a reliable source that says the New York Post is not a credible source for this news story? Specifically, do you have a source that disputes this story? Did Spencer deny this story? Did the NYPD and the NY Health Department deny this story? Did Spencer demand a retraction? I should think if this story is not credible, that Spencer would demand that this be retracted and an apology issued. SW3 5DL ( talk) 16:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
The CNBC source does not actually dispute that he lied. The spokesperson was asked a direct question about that and she declined to give a direct answer. Instead she referred the reporter back to her statement which does not contradict the New York Post. SW3 5DL ( talk) 02:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Oh shut up. Go take your tiresome pot and stir it someplace else. You've no interest at all in discussing the topic of this thread. You're only here to create a problem where none existed before you showed up. Why don't you go find something to do like actually WRITE an article? You've written ZERO articles so far. ZERO article creation after how many years on WP? And do stop making edits that show you’ve no idea what you’re talking about. SW3 5DL ( talk) 17:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
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FYI - This article has information and pictures on the US military response team [2] BlueAg09 ( Talk) 19:47, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
I propose to change the current confirmed case list for more continuity and future-proofing. Currently the list is grouped as 1st, 2nd + 3rd, and 4th. I propose section headings for each case, as well as the moving of the "Monitoring of other health care workers" section into the end of the section on Thomas Duncan. This gives room to elaborate on the second and third cases, as well as direct access to either through the contents. Does this sound reasonable? Cbowman7289 ( talk) 16:22, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
I propose to update the section on Craig Spencer with photos, and add more relevant information to the section. I also propose to add more public reactions from the month of November. Aparuthi ( talk) 21:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
The article below states that there has been a total of 8 people cared for in the United States that have had the Ebola virus. It's understandable that the people in these cases have not be yet to be identified, but I would still propose to create a section where the remaining cases are noted or held as a place holder until more information comes about. If the wiki articles' main focus is confirmed Ebola cases in the U.S. then the remaining cases should also be published, even if it's with limited detail. [1] Crogand3 ( talk) 00:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2831740/Ebola-victims-family-agreement-hospital.html
SW3 5DL ( talk) 04:53, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Should the section "Cases of U.S. health care workers evacuated from West Africa" be changed to be simply as "Medical evacuations from West Africa"? Clearly the NBC crew should not be considered as a healthcare worker. Z22 ( talk) 03:24, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
He's a surgeon married to a U.S. citizen and he is a permanent resident of the U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/health/nebraska-ebola-patient/
Gremlinsa, you might be interested in this case. You've done so much work on the Sierra Leone article. SW3 5DL ( talk) 02:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks SW3 5DL.. I'll keep an eye on it.. For want of a slow Friday I'm madly busy today... Gremlinsa ( talk) 08:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Given that local transmission seems to have stopped, as everyone who had contracted Ebola there is now either dead or recovered, and therefore not infective, and that medevac cases don't count in the assessment, does anyone know the date on which the U.S. will be due to be declared Ebola-free by the WHO, if no further cases are discovered? -- Impsswoon ( talk) 14:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Someone has tagged this section as needing to be summarized. I agree the section could be reduced. I'd like to hear from others on what they think should be cut and what should be kept. Thanks. SW3 5DL ( talk) 18:28, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Reference number 4 says "group=note", which is meaningless computerese. Perhaps a new Wikidata link was intended, but I don't recognize it. Art LaPella ( talk) 05:35, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
In view of Time 's selection of Kent Brantly as Person of the Year, perhaps he should be profiled in a selfstanding article. Rammer ( talk) 23:19, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
These numbers in the infobox are stale. Some of the referenced values were for New York City on certain dates related to active cases there, and those people have all been cleared. But since there is still a steady flow of people entering the US from ebola-infected countries, hundreds are still being monitored. See this CBS article.
Quarantined people | 12 [2] |
---|---|
People under observation | 100+ [3] |
People under active monitoring | 357 [4] |
Cleared after 21 days | 177 as of November 7 [5] [6] |
cleared2
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I'm going to remove them, leaving this here just in case. Thundermaker ( talk) 07:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article8567759.html
It's just a possible, not confirmed. 03:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Spencer was declared Ebola-free 42 days ago, so the US should be officially Ebola-free.
Map is out of date. It should show Omaha with a red dot in a black circle. The original mapmaker has not edited in a month. Rmhermen ( talk) 19:29, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
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The story was reported also in the Breaktrough TV series. This is him when they discovered the damned virus inside one of his eyes (from which he finally recovered). Strange that Wikipedia, so really full of stuff about Ebola in USA, missed this noticeable story (reported both in TV and journals like NYT). I would hope that soon this would be implemented, also to avoid confusion with the (similar looking) dr. Brantly, also cured at Emory Hospital: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/health/weeks-after-his-recovery-ebola-lurked-in-a-doctors-eye.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.3.98 ( talk) 02:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
This is the full history of Doctor Crozier, fallen ill in september 2014 and sent to the Emory Hospital that month. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/08/health/ebola-doctor-ian-crozier-return-from-the-edge-of-death-.html?_r=0&module=inline — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.3.98 ( talk • contribs)
@ Art LaPella: You're right, my rewording wasn't that good either. But the lead sentence still needs to be reworded. It reads almost exactly like the example "wrong" sentence under MOS:AVOIDBOLD. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 16:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
The second citation needed to be updated, because the external article had changed its URL, as tends to happen on the web. However, the article only mentions one death. A better reference might be https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/10/15/356098903/ebola-in-the-united-states-what-happened-when/, which gives a timeline in paragraphs of all the events of the 2014 outbreak, including the two deaths. I am loathe to change it, since I don't know the original Wikipedia author's intent. Skaizun ( talk) 04:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)