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Is the link to audio/video in proprietary format a good idea ? What is the exact policy regarding external links and link to proprietary format ?
For the sake of making this page a useful source of info for the general public, can we please follow the standard set by every other wikipedia page and use Megabytes instead of Mibibytes? --Gronky
Hey, I am new here. I just added a Russian article on the subj and I am wondering what hoops I have to jump through if I want it cross-linked with all other languages. Thanks much! melikamp 06:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Removed this from the article since it's redundant and could be interpreted as slightly POV:
This is silly; of course he does. It says so right in the GPL itself, it is also the FSF's official stance, and Eben is their General Counsel. Also, to call it a "belief" seems to be trying to characterize it as a controversial or unexpected position; i.e. POV. -- 83.226.8.35 08:39, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
This person will be a remote presenter at Wikimania, and as such we can expect this article to get more traffic than usual. Now would be a great time improve if possible, and make sure everything is accurate! Brassratgirl 20:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
User:200.69.167.103 just added [Category:American Anarchists]. I would like to see some reference to where he calls himself an anarchist; otherwise I will revert this. -- 193.11.177.69 03:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
When was Moglen born? This is completely missing from the article. -- Haakon 17:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
In a linux.com interview with Eben Moglen at the Red Hat Summit in San Diego, he declared: I started working as an APL application programmer for the Scientific Time Sharing Corporation (STSC) in 1973 when I was 14.
Source : [3] 14 sec. from the beginning.
Was he really born in 1959? Other Wikipedia sources (german, dutch and italian) report he was born in 1956. -- Ripat 11:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The currently listed birth date was retrieved by should surfing his passport. I don't think this meets [4] ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.251.235 ( talk) 21:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Basically this only covers the activities with and the pro-FSF stance. Surely there must be more to this person than one prejudiced viewpoint? 211.10.18.77 10:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Lquilter just (02:47, 29 October 2006) added "Category:Lawyers". But some time ago, on 23:28, 3 June 2005, Gronky removed the category "American Lawyers", saying "he's not one". Who is and isn’t a lawyer, anyway? Moglen recently seemed to confirm being an "attorney":
So is he or isn’t he a lawyer? -- 193.11.177.69 06:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I've uploaded a newer, high-resolution photo which I took at Eben's lecture in Edinburgh at the end of June. If people think it is better then they may want to crop and use that image instead of, or as well as the current image. Karora 07:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
This article has turned into a very long list of external links. Of course, Wikipedia is not a collection of links and I suspect this articles has sort of gone off in the wrong direction. I would very much like to see this list survive (it's fantastically detailed) but probably not on this article page. mako ( talk• contribs) 17:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Pretty amazing. Sorry Eben! 128.59.181.20 ( talk) 04:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
How should we pronounce his name anyway? -- Do.you.sina ( talk) 21:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Moglen is not a communist, even though he wrote "The dotCommunist Manifesto." Here are a couple of sources:
My students are beginning to believe, to my shock, a communist thing - namely, it`s our music, and how dare they take it away from us - which is an enormously important and suggestive development. But, the theory of commercial distribution of proprietary culture is not a theory that one can say people have a duty to resist. I`m not at the Abby Hoffman "Steal this Book" level.
— Eben Moglen [1]
I have seen comments by a number of people whose bias against the term "social justice" leads them to conclude that Moglen is a "communist" proposing to take from the rich to give to the poor. Of course we do that to some extent already, as he points out when he says we are "only partially . . . a capitalist society". But Moglen is not talking about redistribution at all. He believes we can achieve social justice without taking anything from anybody.
— Geof Glass [2]
I'm going to delete the "communist" mention, and also the Jewish American mention since it doesn't belong in the "Professional biography" section.
AndyBloch 19:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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Is the link to audio/video in proprietary format a good idea ? What is the exact policy regarding external links and link to proprietary format ?
For the sake of making this page a useful source of info for the general public, can we please follow the standard set by every other wikipedia page and use Megabytes instead of Mibibytes? --Gronky
Hey, I am new here. I just added a Russian article on the subj and I am wondering what hoops I have to jump through if I want it cross-linked with all other languages. Thanks much! melikamp 06:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Removed this from the article since it's redundant and could be interpreted as slightly POV:
This is silly; of course he does. It says so right in the GPL itself, it is also the FSF's official stance, and Eben is their General Counsel. Also, to call it a "belief" seems to be trying to characterize it as a controversial or unexpected position; i.e. POV. -- 83.226.8.35 08:39, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
This person will be a remote presenter at Wikimania, and as such we can expect this article to get more traffic than usual. Now would be a great time improve if possible, and make sure everything is accurate! Brassratgirl 20:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
User:200.69.167.103 just added [Category:American Anarchists]. I would like to see some reference to where he calls himself an anarchist; otherwise I will revert this. -- 193.11.177.69 03:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
When was Moglen born? This is completely missing from the article. -- Haakon 17:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
In a linux.com interview with Eben Moglen at the Red Hat Summit in San Diego, he declared: I started working as an APL application programmer for the Scientific Time Sharing Corporation (STSC) in 1973 when I was 14.
Source : [3] 14 sec. from the beginning.
Was he really born in 1959? Other Wikipedia sources (german, dutch and italian) report he was born in 1956. -- Ripat 11:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The currently listed birth date was retrieved by should surfing his passport. I don't think this meets [4] ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.251.235 ( talk) 21:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Basically this only covers the activities with and the pro-FSF stance. Surely there must be more to this person than one prejudiced viewpoint? 211.10.18.77 10:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Lquilter just (02:47, 29 October 2006) added "Category:Lawyers". But some time ago, on 23:28, 3 June 2005, Gronky removed the category "American Lawyers", saying "he's not one". Who is and isn’t a lawyer, anyway? Moglen recently seemed to confirm being an "attorney":
So is he or isn’t he a lawyer? -- 193.11.177.69 06:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I've uploaded a newer, high-resolution photo which I took at Eben's lecture in Edinburgh at the end of June. If people think it is better then they may want to crop and use that image instead of, or as well as the current image. Karora 07:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
This article has turned into a very long list of external links. Of course, Wikipedia is not a collection of links and I suspect this articles has sort of gone off in the wrong direction. I would very much like to see this list survive (it's fantastically detailed) but probably not on this article page. mako ( talk• contribs) 17:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Pretty amazing. Sorry Eben! 128.59.181.20 ( talk) 04:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
How should we pronounce his name anyway? -- Do.you.sina ( talk) 21:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Moglen is not a communist, even though he wrote "The dotCommunist Manifesto." Here are a couple of sources:
My students are beginning to believe, to my shock, a communist thing - namely, it`s our music, and how dare they take it away from us - which is an enormously important and suggestive development. But, the theory of commercial distribution of proprietary culture is not a theory that one can say people have a duty to resist. I`m not at the Abby Hoffman "Steal this Book" level.
— Eben Moglen [1]
I have seen comments by a number of people whose bias against the term "social justice" leads them to conclude that Moglen is a "communist" proposing to take from the rich to give to the poor. Of course we do that to some extent already, as he points out when he says we are "only partially . . . a capitalist society". But Moglen is not talking about redistribution at all. He believes we can achieve social justice without taking anything from anybody.
— Geof Glass [2]
I'm going to delete the "communist" mention, and also the Jewish American mention since it doesn't belong in the "Professional biography" section.
AndyBloch 19:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
References
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cite web}}
: Text "geof" ignored (
help)