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Bambu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.34.66.63 ( talk) 14:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
I believe we mislead our readers when we describe Dzongkha as a dialect of Tibetan. That would suggest that native speakers of these languages could understand each other which is not true. What is true is that both languages trace back to a common root, Classical Tibetan, which has died out as a spoken language but is still used in religious contexts (much as Latin is no longer anyone's mother tongue but is a common root of the various Romance languages and is preserved as the international scholarly language of Roman Catholicism). I've changed the article to make the actual relationship of Tibetan and Dzongkha clearer. technopilgrim 19:44, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Spanish and Italian are almost mutually intelligible, especially in the written language. Most Portuguese can understand Spanish, although not the other way round. 81.155.100.190 14:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002619.html
Does China really have a territorial claim on Bhutan? That's news to me. Rhesusman 20:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is the number of speakers given as only ~1/4 of the population of Bhutan? Potatoswatter 18:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
_-more than half of bhutanse speaks nepali — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6010:1803:3293:6CD5:D3E4:C56E:B56C ( talk) 00:39, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Can someone help render Bhutan Scout Tshogpa, and also "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Dzongkha script? Thanks! Chris 02:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
If you are a native speaker of Dzongkha then you can help translate this template into your own language:
dzo | This user is a native speaker of Dzongkha (རྫོང་ཁ). |
-- Amazonien ( talk) 20:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
hu | Ennek a szerkesztőnek magyar az anyanyelve. |
The map shows seven districts in which dzongka is spoken. The text says eight. Also the map should state that the dzongka districts are highlighted in yellow. PeterT2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterT2 ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
A dictionary of the Bhotanta or Boutan language, printed from a manuscript copy made by the late Rev. Frederic Christian Gotthelf Schroeter, edited by J. Marshman: To which is prefixed a grammar of the Bhotanta language By Friedrich Christian G. Schroeter, John Clark Marshman
A dictionary of the Bhotanta, or Boutan language By Frederic Christian Gotthelf Schrœter
A Dictionary of the Bhotanta, Or Boutan Language By Friedrich Christian Gotthelf Schroeter, William Carey
A Grammar of the Bhotanta, Or, Boutan Language By Friedrich Christian Gotthelf Schroeter
A DICTIONARY OF THE BHOTANTA LANGUAGE (1826)
https://archive.org/details/adictionarybhot00schogoog
A Grammar of the Bhotanta, Or, Boutan Language By Friedrich Christian Gotthelf Schroeter
Rajmaan ( talk) 19:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Someone appears to have recently added a phonology section to this article, which seems to have been lifted from an article about Tibetan and is all completely wrong in respect of Dzongkha. A reliable description of Dzongkha phonology can be found in George van Driem's book 'Dzongkha' (1998). Unlike Standard Tibetan, Dzongkha contrasts voiced as well as aspirated consonants, and the use of breathy voice after unvoiced consonants. The whole table as it stands is worthless and should be removed. 62.64.241.151 ( talk) 21:40, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
--- Yep. I was just looking at the van Driem's 1992 grammar, and it is completely incorrect for what is specified in the article — Preceding
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This language article is lacking a grammar section, which may be sourced from material such as van Driem's The Grammar of Dzongkha. How should the grammar section be written (i.e. incrementally or all at once)? The structure would be similar to the Tibetan language article and the Japanese grammar articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForestAlpaca ( talk • contribs) 03:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
This article doesn't say if the Adap dialect is simply another term for standard Dzongkha. There are 3 dialects with ISO 639-3 codes: Laya and Lunana (which have pages, and are not standard forms), and Adap (whose page is a redirect to this one). Can someone please clarify? -- Numberguy6 ( talk) 23:00, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Dzongkha literally means 'language of the fortress' and dzong means 'fortress'. The Dzongkha term for 'palace' is 'phodrang'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pemongdi ( talk • contribs) 02:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
The Phoneme inventory in the thesis "A Grammar of Dzongkha (dzo): Phonology, Words, and Simple Clauses" (2018 Watters, Stephen A) seems highly aberrant compared to the one here but is more recent than the current source cited for the current phoneme inventory. This phoneme inventory also explains multiple phonemes that seem to appear elsewhere in the language (at least according to this wikipedia page) such as both the /d/ and /z/ in Dzongkha Comment by user ChromeBones — Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the pronunciation is correct. The first consonant should be voiced alveolar affricate /dz/, which can be heard here from a native speaker. Wiktionary also has that notation. Ranching ( talk) 12:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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Bambu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.34.66.63 ( talk) 14:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
I believe we mislead our readers when we describe Dzongkha as a dialect of Tibetan. That would suggest that native speakers of these languages could understand each other which is not true. What is true is that both languages trace back to a common root, Classical Tibetan, which has died out as a spoken language but is still used in religious contexts (much as Latin is no longer anyone's mother tongue but is a common root of the various Romance languages and is preserved as the international scholarly language of Roman Catholicism). I've changed the article to make the actual relationship of Tibetan and Dzongkha clearer. technopilgrim 19:44, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Spanish and Italian are almost mutually intelligible, especially in the written language. Most Portuguese can understand Spanish, although not the other way round. 81.155.100.190 14:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002619.html
Does China really have a territorial claim on Bhutan? That's news to me. Rhesusman 20:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is the number of speakers given as only ~1/4 of the population of Bhutan? Potatoswatter 18:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
_-more than half of bhutanse speaks nepali — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6010:1803:3293:6CD5:D3E4:C56E:B56C ( talk) 00:39, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Can someone help render Bhutan Scout Tshogpa, and also "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Dzongkha script? Thanks! Chris 02:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
If you are a native speaker of Dzongkha then you can help translate this template into your own language:
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-- Amazonien ( talk) 20:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
hu | Ennek a szerkesztőnek magyar az anyanyelve. |
The map shows seven districts in which dzongka is spoken. The text says eight. Also the map should state that the dzongka districts are highlighted in yellow. PeterT2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterT2 ( talk • contribs) 16:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
A dictionary of the Bhotanta or Boutan language, printed from a manuscript copy made by the late Rev. Frederic Christian Gotthelf Schroeter, edited by J. Marshman: To which is prefixed a grammar of the Bhotanta language By Friedrich Christian G. Schroeter, John Clark Marshman
A dictionary of the Bhotanta, or Boutan language By Frederic Christian Gotthelf Schrœter
A Dictionary of the Bhotanta, Or Boutan Language By Friedrich Christian Gotthelf Schroeter, William Carey
A Grammar of the Bhotanta, Or, Boutan Language By Friedrich Christian Gotthelf Schroeter
A DICTIONARY OF THE BHOTANTA LANGUAGE (1826)
https://archive.org/details/adictionarybhot00schogoog
A Grammar of the Bhotanta, Or, Boutan Language By Friedrich Christian Gotthelf Schroeter
Rajmaan ( talk) 19:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Someone appears to have recently added a phonology section to this article, which seems to have been lifted from an article about Tibetan and is all completely wrong in respect of Dzongkha. A reliable description of Dzongkha phonology can be found in George van Driem's book 'Dzongkha' (1998). Unlike Standard Tibetan, Dzongkha contrasts voiced as well as aspirated consonants, and the use of breathy voice after unvoiced consonants. The whole table as it stands is worthless and should be removed. 62.64.241.151 ( talk) 21:40, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
--- Yep. I was just looking at the van Driem's 1992 grammar, and it is completely incorrect for what is specified in the article — Preceding
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This language article is lacking a grammar section, which may be sourced from material such as van Driem's The Grammar of Dzongkha. How should the grammar section be written (i.e. incrementally or all at once)? The structure would be similar to the Tibetan language article and the Japanese grammar articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForestAlpaca ( talk • contribs) 03:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
This article doesn't say if the Adap dialect is simply another term for standard Dzongkha. There are 3 dialects with ISO 639-3 codes: Laya and Lunana (which have pages, and are not standard forms), and Adap (whose page is a redirect to this one). Can someone please clarify? -- Numberguy6 ( talk) 23:00, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Dzongkha literally means 'language of the fortress' and dzong means 'fortress'. The Dzongkha term for 'palace' is 'phodrang'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pemongdi ( talk • contribs) 02:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
The Phoneme inventory in the thesis "A Grammar of Dzongkha (dzo): Phonology, Words, and Simple Clauses" (2018 Watters, Stephen A) seems highly aberrant compared to the one here but is more recent than the current source cited for the current phoneme inventory. This phoneme inventory also explains multiple phonemes that seem to appear elsewhere in the language (at least according to this wikipedia page) such as both the /d/ and /z/ in Dzongkha Comment by user ChromeBones — Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the pronunciation is correct. The first consonant should be voiced alveolar affricate /dz/, which can be heard here from a native speaker. Wiktionary also has that notation. Ranching ( talk) 12:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)