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Sorry if I screwed up the set up of the page, but this whole thing is quite new to me. I am a working cytotechnologist so this is a topic near and dear to my heart.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but CIN cannot be diagnosed with a pap smear/LBC. Cytology only shows dyskaryosis which can be said to be consisten with CIN I, II or III. Colposcopy/biopsy is required to stage CIN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.141.8 ( talk) 01:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Additional comment: The text seems to imply that a pap smear can be used to diagnose any dysplasia or carcinoma. To my knowledge, It is only used in cervix cancer caused by Human Papilloma Virus HPV. To make a diagnosis you need a (preferrably rough-) needle aspirate of the tissue or other tissue sample. Andbir ( talk) 21:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Consider addding some reference to staging vs. grading taxonomy? Andbir ( talk) 21:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The term Dysplasia does not infer that epithelial cells are involved, whereas carcinoma does? Andbir ( talk) 21:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Dysplasia is a more generic term in describing the cells. Carcinoma is the term applied to epithelial cells only. Connective tissue neoplasm such as muscle and fat are Sarcomas. Hematologic neoplasms are leukemias or lymphomas. (
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As a student trying to learn about Dysplasia this article was extremely helpful. Unfortunately the paragraph on "Screening" is confusing (e.g. "physicians expect dysplasia to occur at the same rate in a typical individual as it would in many other people". I suggest substitute "population as a whole" or "general population" or "the masses" for "many other people". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.70.170.129 ( talk) 23:28, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
In the first paragraph: "This generally consists of an expansion of immature cells, with a corresponding decrease in the number and location of mature cells." it is unclear to me how mature cells can manifest with a decrease in their location... Perhaps clarifying that passage would be helpful to others? — Guillaume Pelletier ~ 14:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
I have removed this text:
from the lead, where it does not belong. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 02:53, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
“decrease in the number and location of mature cells” -- this doesn't make sense to me. -- Gaborgulya ( talk) 09:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Many confusions in this article between the generical ambiguous term "dysplasia" and the " epithelial dysplasia" (now called " Intraepithelial neoplasia"). Humpath ( talk) 17:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Wall St Journal story, and related "Overdiagnosis and Overtreatment in Cancer: An Opportunity for Improvement", Laura J. Esserman , MD, MBA1; Ian M. Thompson Jr, MD2; Brian Reid, MD, PhD3, JAMA. 2013;310(8):797-798. doi:10.1001/jama.2013.108415. Wiki CRUK John ( talk) 12:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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The introduction states that macroscopic (= without use of microscope). MDS is diagnosed seeing morphological and microscopically changes in bone marrow or blood cells (hematopathologist here). Lufthoved ( talk) 20:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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Sorry if I screwed up the set up of the page, but this whole thing is quite new to me. I am a working cytotechnologist so this is a topic near and dear to my heart.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but CIN cannot be diagnosed with a pap smear/LBC. Cytology only shows dyskaryosis which can be said to be consisten with CIN I, II or III. Colposcopy/biopsy is required to stage CIN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.141.8 ( talk) 01:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Additional comment: The text seems to imply that a pap smear can be used to diagnose any dysplasia or carcinoma. To my knowledge, It is only used in cervix cancer caused by Human Papilloma Virus HPV. To make a diagnosis you need a (preferrably rough-) needle aspirate of the tissue or other tissue sample. Andbir ( talk) 21:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Consider addding some reference to staging vs. grading taxonomy? Andbir ( talk) 21:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The term Dysplasia does not infer that epithelial cells are involved, whereas carcinoma does? Andbir ( talk) 21:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Dysplasia is a more generic term in describing the cells. Carcinoma is the term applied to epithelial cells only. Connective tissue neoplasm such as muscle and fat are Sarcomas. Hematologic neoplasms are leukemias or lymphomas. (
140.142.84.62 (
talk) 18:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)docjenn)
As a student trying to learn about Dysplasia this article was extremely helpful. Unfortunately the paragraph on "Screening" is confusing (e.g. "physicians expect dysplasia to occur at the same rate in a typical individual as it would in many other people". I suggest substitute "population as a whole" or "general population" or "the masses" for "many other people". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.70.170.129 ( talk) 23:28, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
In the first paragraph: "This generally consists of an expansion of immature cells, with a corresponding decrease in the number and location of mature cells." it is unclear to me how mature cells can manifest with a decrease in their location... Perhaps clarifying that passage would be helpful to others? — Guillaume Pelletier ~ 14:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
I have removed this text:
from the lead, where it does not belong. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 02:53, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
“decrease in the number and location of mature cells” -- this doesn't make sense to me. -- Gaborgulya ( talk) 09:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Many confusions in this article between the generical ambiguous term "dysplasia" and the " epithelial dysplasia" (now called " Intraepithelial neoplasia"). Humpath ( talk) 17:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Wall St Journal story, and related "Overdiagnosis and Overtreatment in Cancer: An Opportunity for Improvement", Laura J. Esserman , MD, MBA1; Ian M. Thompson Jr, MD2; Brian Reid, MD, PhD3, JAMA. 2013;310(8):797-798. doi:10.1001/jama.2013.108415. Wiki CRUK John ( talk) 12:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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The introduction states that macroscopic (= without use of microscope). MDS is diagnosed seeing morphological and microscopically changes in bone marrow or blood cells (hematopathologist here). Lufthoved ( talk) 20:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)