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Stop messing with the finishing moves! They are just fine the way they are! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.130.13 ( talk) 15:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that someone should have his RAW time listed as 2008-2009 and then include in the biography all that happened since his return to RAW in 2008 until his departure from RAW in 2009. Then have an ECW section from 2009- where they include all that's happened on his time on ECW until whenever. I think that'd be better to keep things more organized since it looks like he'll be on ECW for a long while and quite possibly the rest of his career. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.59.3.5 ( talk) 00:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much whoever helped to split the sections better than what I did! Great job!
190.59.19.22 ( talk) 21:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
They were perfect standing on their own, plus it was orderly and neat. Now it just looks jumbled and a huge mess. The RAW and ECW run were under the "WWE Return" main header so it did make sense so please fix it or I'll just do it on my own. 190.59.14.169 ( talk) 23:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone removed the list of all of his themes completely which was accurate, the ones I remember are from WWE which are: "Gold-Lust" by Jim Johnston "Gold-Lust" Remix using distortion techniques by Jim Johnston (used when he was The Artist Formerly known as Goldust)
190.59.22.85 ( talk) 23:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I added reliable sources but I'm not sure how to make them references in the article, they're hidden comments so anyone who can make them references will be a big help. Also, his "TAFKA" Goldust theme is basically the same as the "Gold-Lust" theme but with distortion effects, there's no official name for it that I could find, what should be done about that? 190.59.14.55 ( talk) 01:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! I have no idea how to do those things but as long as we get his article better, that's all that matters. 190.59.14.55 ( talk) 04:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I am feedup having to save his page and re-edit stuff! People keep erasing "The Final Cut" as his finisher and/or changing what the move really is, which is a suplex into whiplash OR they call it "The Director's Cut" which it is NOT.
Also, they keep erasing details of the Sheamus feud which SHOULD be listed or at least be mentioned. I came on here and found that all mention of the feud was erased!
And finally, I keep bolding "The Lonestar" and adding WWE as using it as a nickname because Matt Striker constantly refers to Goldust on a weekly basis as THE LONESTAR!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE STOP RUINING HIS PAGE AND EDITING IT WHEN ALL THE CHANGES I MADE ARE PERFECT!?
190.59.29.87 ( talk) 06:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I have two sentences on the feud with Sheamus, I don't think that's wrong to at least mention the first feud he's had on ECW especially in such a short form. I think that it is relevant to his career since he feuded with him for like 3 months plus it's the first thing that was note-worthy on ECW. Please don't change it, I think the article is perfect the way that I have it right now. 190.59.24.219 ( talk) 21:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
But some people ruin it and do whatever they want with the article. Please tell me what will make this article perfect, I would like to make this article better. 190.59.14.55 ( talk) 20:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I've cleaned up Goldust's page a bit by adding references for everything from his return to WWE in 2008, his themes and his finishers. Anyone else want to help by getting some more references for other periods of his career like in Japan? We're trying to make his page perfect! Please help me! 190.59.9.44 ( talk) 21:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I just want to let you guys know that I requested an article reassessment for Goldust's article, hopefully they'll consider it a "B" Level article. Let's try and improve it guys, I've worked very hard on this article! 190.59.25.219 ( talk) 01:20, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll try to get more references this weekend! 190.59.14.194 ( talk) 21:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I went to the Million Dollar Championship discussion page and asked if Goldust should be added to the list of champions and with the talking about it, came to the conclusion that just because Goldust stole the Million Dollar Championship from Ted DiBiase, Jr., it doesn't mean that he won the Million Dollar Championship. With that being said, why is Goldust credited with winning the Million Dollar Championship one time? I will go ahead and delete that entry and if anyone thinks that the entry should be on Goldust's wikipedia page, let's discuss it on this discussion page and if the majority of the people say the entry should be on Goldust's wikipedia page, let's add the entry to Goldust's wikipedia page and then update the Million Dollar Championship page to reflect from when Goldust stole the Million Dollar Championship from Ted DiBiase, Jr. to present. Gibsonj338 ( talk) 03:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I've just removed a paragraph which used Yahoo Answers (?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! see WP:RELIABLE) as a source for claiming GTV was named after Goldust. Now, I have in my possession an audio interview with Vince Russo in which Russo states "GTV" was originally named for Tom Green but the association was dropped when Vince McMahon was reluctant to hire Green and the GTV name was left ambiguous. Unfortunately I cannot find a reliable citation to demonstate the truth (or otherwise) of this, but until such time as a good source is found on the subject of GTV, I suggest mentions of it remain excluded from the article. This is a WP:BLP, after all. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹ Speak 17:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
According to WWE.com, Goldust is still a RAW Superstar ( http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw), therefor I've changed the article has changed to show this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.17.65 ( talk) 13:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I would Just Like to Inform You all that Dustin Rhodes Aka Goldust Now Haw Two Accounts On Twitter I Made Changes in the Page to Reflect That. He Also Changed His Username in His Older One so I Updated The Link to That one Too. I Hope that this didn't cause any problems? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.118.180 ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 20 May 2012
The result of the move request was: Move. While the oppose !votes are noted, I'm not seeing strong, policy-based counter to the claim that the proposed title is the common name. Cúchullain t/ c 21:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Dustin Rhodes → Goldust – Pardon me if I've overlooked something; I haven't watched any professional wrestling since I was in middle school. But from looking over the article, it looks like Runnels is much better known as Goldust. Comparing "dustin rhodes" -wikipedia and goldust -wikipedia, there's no contest. Alternatively, if he has multiple ring names of comparable prominence, we could go the Mick Foley route and rename to Dustin Runnels. "Goldust" already redirects here, and I've added a hatnote to Gold Dust to allow for typos. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 15:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC) BDD ( talk) 19:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not moved. Though I proposed the previous move, I haven't taken a position this time around, and it's clear that consensus is against moving back at this time. -- BDD ( talk) 17:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Goldust → Dustin Rhodes – Dustin Rhodes has had significant success under his real name. "Goldust" is a name he has only used in WWF/E. He has been "Dustin Rhodes" in pretty much every other territory. He was "Dustin Rhodes" for two years while wrestling alongside his father in WWF. In WCW, Dustin has won three tag team titles and two United States titles under his real name. The article should be moved back to Dustin, IMO. -- GeicoHen ( talk) 02:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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Can someone clarify his year or birth (with references), as I noticed it was changed recently from '69 to '68 with no edit summary, and a quick look on Google shows sites that list '66 and '70. 109.149.67.242 ( talk) 20:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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He is not using the character anymore at this moment, thus the page should be titled either Dustin Rhodes or Dustin Runnels. Mancalledsting ( talk) 11:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. Although there is a reasonable case made in support, that he more often goes by Dustin Rhodes now, and therefore satisfies NAMECHANGES, the opposition argument that he was better known as Goldust for the peak periods of his career also carries weight. Overall I don't think either side make a persuasive case to establish firm consensus, and !votes are also even split numerically. — Amakuru ( talk) 22:16, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Goldust →
Dustin Rhodes – Widely regarded today in AEW. The title was changed to Goldust in '13 when he teamed up with Cody Rhodes/Stardust. Since, he didn't appear much in the main roster and now he is probably in the upper midcard level or possibly even a legend of AEW, once again teaming with Cody. THE NEW
ImmortalWizard
(chat) 12:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.
Wug·
a·po·des 17:52, 5 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.
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*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
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polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.I read WP:NAMECHANGES to refer to situations in which, as it states, the person actually changes their name, such as Cassius Clay->Muhammad Ali, or Bruce Jenner->Caitlyn Jenner. In these cases, it makes sense to rename the article, as it wouldn't make sense to insist on keeping it in the old location. I don't see that WP:NAMECHANGES refers to a person who now portrays a new character on a television show. However, even with additional weight placed on sources after he started portraying the new character, we still have many years as a featured performer during one of the sport's major boom periods vs. several months in a brand new promotion. Either way, Goldust is still his common name. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 14:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
The determination of how much extra weight should be given to more recent sources is guided by the likelihood the new name is going to stick – while Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, it needs to be unavoidable that the new name will soon be the most common name.. However the supports also rebut the argument that the name change is unlikely to stick. As previously mentioned, an editor in this discussion (and editors in 2013) contends that Dustin Rhodes is already the common name, and another notes that source
referred to him as Dustin Rhodes even as he portrayed characters like Goldust, Black Reign, Seven, etc.showing that this name has already stuck across multiple name changes contrary to the concerns of the opposes.
I have no opinion on what the page name should be, but I have reverted a recent page move as it went against WP:RMUM. Given there has been discussion over the name in the past, it needs to go through another RM process if the name is to be changed. Spike 'em ( talk) 12:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move page. ( non-admin closure) — YoungForever (talk) 22:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Goldust →
Dustin Rhodes – Per
WP:NAMECHANGES his current ring name is "Dustin Rhodes" and is no longer using "Goldust". He is a prominent wrestler in
All Elite Wrestling, consistently appearing and wrestling, even main eventing, in front of millions on
AEW Dark,
AEW Dynamite, television special episodes, and PPVs. Goldust was just a character he portrayed and was still referred to as Dustin at times across several of his characters. Dustin Rhodes is likely the
WP:COMMONNAME widely known as a part of the Rhodes Family or even as Dusty's son Dustin, dating back to before Goldust. Dustin Rhodes is prevalent in today's sources and was used in several of his runs in the independents, NJPW, WCW, WWF/E, TNA, NWA, most recently AEW, while Goldust, which WWE owns, was only part of WWE. -
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He is not death 108.29.62.8 ( talk) 03:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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Stop messing with the finishing moves! They are just fine the way they are! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.130.13 ( talk) 15:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that someone should have his RAW time listed as 2008-2009 and then include in the biography all that happened since his return to RAW in 2008 until his departure from RAW in 2009. Then have an ECW section from 2009- where they include all that's happened on his time on ECW until whenever. I think that'd be better to keep things more organized since it looks like he'll be on ECW for a long while and quite possibly the rest of his career. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.59.3.5 ( talk) 00:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much whoever helped to split the sections better than what I did! Great job!
190.59.19.22 ( talk) 21:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
They were perfect standing on their own, plus it was orderly and neat. Now it just looks jumbled and a huge mess. The RAW and ECW run were under the "WWE Return" main header so it did make sense so please fix it or I'll just do it on my own. 190.59.14.169 ( talk) 23:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone removed the list of all of his themes completely which was accurate, the ones I remember are from WWE which are: "Gold-Lust" by Jim Johnston "Gold-Lust" Remix using distortion techniques by Jim Johnston (used when he was The Artist Formerly known as Goldust)
190.59.22.85 ( talk) 23:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I added reliable sources but I'm not sure how to make them references in the article, they're hidden comments so anyone who can make them references will be a big help. Also, his "TAFKA" Goldust theme is basically the same as the "Gold-Lust" theme but with distortion effects, there's no official name for it that I could find, what should be done about that? 190.59.14.55 ( talk) 01:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! I have no idea how to do those things but as long as we get his article better, that's all that matters. 190.59.14.55 ( talk) 04:50, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I am feedup having to save his page and re-edit stuff! People keep erasing "The Final Cut" as his finisher and/or changing what the move really is, which is a suplex into whiplash OR they call it "The Director's Cut" which it is NOT.
Also, they keep erasing details of the Sheamus feud which SHOULD be listed or at least be mentioned. I came on here and found that all mention of the feud was erased!
And finally, I keep bolding "The Lonestar" and adding WWE as using it as a nickname because Matt Striker constantly refers to Goldust on a weekly basis as THE LONESTAR!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE STOP RUINING HIS PAGE AND EDITING IT WHEN ALL THE CHANGES I MADE ARE PERFECT!?
190.59.29.87 ( talk) 06:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I have two sentences on the feud with Sheamus, I don't think that's wrong to at least mention the first feud he's had on ECW especially in such a short form. I think that it is relevant to his career since he feuded with him for like 3 months plus it's the first thing that was note-worthy on ECW. Please don't change it, I think the article is perfect the way that I have it right now. 190.59.24.219 ( talk) 21:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
But some people ruin it and do whatever they want with the article. Please tell me what will make this article perfect, I would like to make this article better. 190.59.14.55 ( talk) 20:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I've cleaned up Goldust's page a bit by adding references for everything from his return to WWE in 2008, his themes and his finishers. Anyone else want to help by getting some more references for other periods of his career like in Japan? We're trying to make his page perfect! Please help me! 190.59.9.44 ( talk) 21:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I just want to let you guys know that I requested an article reassessment for Goldust's article, hopefully they'll consider it a "B" Level article. Let's try and improve it guys, I've worked very hard on this article! 190.59.25.219 ( talk) 01:20, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll try to get more references this weekend! 190.59.14.194 ( talk) 21:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I went to the Million Dollar Championship discussion page and asked if Goldust should be added to the list of champions and with the talking about it, came to the conclusion that just because Goldust stole the Million Dollar Championship from Ted DiBiase, Jr., it doesn't mean that he won the Million Dollar Championship. With that being said, why is Goldust credited with winning the Million Dollar Championship one time? I will go ahead and delete that entry and if anyone thinks that the entry should be on Goldust's wikipedia page, let's discuss it on this discussion page and if the majority of the people say the entry should be on Goldust's wikipedia page, let's add the entry to Goldust's wikipedia page and then update the Million Dollar Championship page to reflect from when Goldust stole the Million Dollar Championship from Ted DiBiase, Jr. to present. Gibsonj338 ( talk) 03:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I've just removed a paragraph which used Yahoo Answers (?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! see WP:RELIABLE) as a source for claiming GTV was named after Goldust. Now, I have in my possession an audio interview with Vince Russo in which Russo states "GTV" was originally named for Tom Green but the association was dropped when Vince McMahon was reluctant to hire Green and the GTV name was left ambiguous. Unfortunately I cannot find a reliable citation to demonstate the truth (or otherwise) of this, but until such time as a good source is found on the subject of GTV, I suggest mentions of it remain excluded from the article. This is a WP:BLP, after all. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹ Speak 17:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
According to WWE.com, Goldust is still a RAW Superstar ( http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw), therefor I've changed the article has changed to show this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.17.65 ( talk) 13:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
I would Just Like to Inform You all that Dustin Rhodes Aka Goldust Now Haw Two Accounts On Twitter I Made Changes in the Page to Reflect That. He Also Changed His Username in His Older One so I Updated The Link to That one Too. I Hope that this didn't cause any problems? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.118.180 ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 20 May 2012
The result of the move request was: Move. While the oppose !votes are noted, I'm not seeing strong, policy-based counter to the claim that the proposed title is the common name. Cúchullain t/ c 21:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Dustin Rhodes → Goldust – Pardon me if I've overlooked something; I haven't watched any professional wrestling since I was in middle school. But from looking over the article, it looks like Runnels is much better known as Goldust. Comparing "dustin rhodes" -wikipedia and goldust -wikipedia, there's no contest. Alternatively, if he has multiple ring names of comparable prominence, we could go the Mick Foley route and rename to Dustin Runnels. "Goldust" already redirects here, and I've added a hatnote to Gold Dust to allow for typos. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 15:24, 1 October 2013 (UTC) BDD ( talk) 19:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was not moved. Though I proposed the previous move, I haven't taken a position this time around, and it's clear that consensus is against moving back at this time. -- BDD ( talk) 17:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Goldust → Dustin Rhodes – Dustin Rhodes has had significant success under his real name. "Goldust" is a name he has only used in WWF/E. He has been "Dustin Rhodes" in pretty much every other territory. He was "Dustin Rhodes" for two years while wrestling alongside his father in WWF. In WCW, Dustin has won three tag team titles and two United States titles under his real name. The article should be moved back to Dustin, IMO. -- GeicoHen ( talk) 02:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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Can someone clarify his year or birth (with references), as I noticed it was changed recently from '69 to '68 with no edit summary, and a quick look on Google shows sites that list '66 and '70. 109.149.67.242 ( talk) 20:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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He is not using the character anymore at this moment, thus the page should be titled either Dustin Rhodes or Dustin Runnels. Mancalledsting ( talk) 11:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. Although there is a reasonable case made in support, that he more often goes by Dustin Rhodes now, and therefore satisfies NAMECHANGES, the opposition argument that he was better known as Goldust for the peak periods of his career also carries weight. Overall I don't think either side make a persuasive case to establish firm consensus, and !votes are also even split numerically. — Amakuru ( talk) 22:16, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Goldust →
Dustin Rhodes – Widely regarded today in AEW. The title was changed to Goldust in '13 when he teamed up with Cody Rhodes/Stardust. Since, he didn't appear much in the main roster and now he is probably in the upper midcard level or possibly even a legend of AEW, once again teaming with Cody. THE NEW
ImmortalWizard
(chat) 12:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.
Wug·
a·po·des 17:52, 5 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.
Steel1943 (
talk) 21:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.I read WP:NAMECHANGES to refer to situations in which, as it states, the person actually changes their name, such as Cassius Clay->Muhammad Ali, or Bruce Jenner->Caitlyn Jenner. In these cases, it makes sense to rename the article, as it wouldn't make sense to insist on keeping it in the old location. I don't see that WP:NAMECHANGES refers to a person who now portrays a new character on a television show. However, even with additional weight placed on sources after he started portraying the new character, we still have many years as a featured performer during one of the sport's major boom periods vs. several months in a brand new promotion. Either way, Goldust is still his common name. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 14:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
The determination of how much extra weight should be given to more recent sources is guided by the likelihood the new name is going to stick – while Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, it needs to be unavoidable that the new name will soon be the most common name.. However the supports also rebut the argument that the name change is unlikely to stick. As previously mentioned, an editor in this discussion (and editors in 2013) contends that Dustin Rhodes is already the common name, and another notes that source
referred to him as Dustin Rhodes even as he portrayed characters like Goldust, Black Reign, Seven, etc.showing that this name has already stuck across multiple name changes contrary to the concerns of the opposes.
I have no opinion on what the page name should be, but I have reverted a recent page move as it went against WP:RMUM. Given there has been discussion over the name in the past, it needs to go through another RM process if the name is to be changed. Spike 'em ( talk) 12:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move page. ( non-admin closure) — YoungForever (talk) 22:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Goldust →
Dustin Rhodes – Per
WP:NAMECHANGES his current ring name is "Dustin Rhodes" and is no longer using "Goldust". He is a prominent wrestler in
All Elite Wrestling, consistently appearing and wrestling, even main eventing, in front of millions on
AEW Dark,
AEW Dynamite, television special episodes, and PPVs. Goldust was just a character he portrayed and was still referred to as Dustin at times across several of his characters. Dustin Rhodes is likely the
WP:COMMONNAME widely known as a part of the Rhodes Family or even as Dusty's son Dustin, dating back to before Goldust. Dustin Rhodes is prevalent in today's sources and was used in several of his runs in the independents, NJPW, WCW, WWF/E, TNA, NWA, most recently AEW, while Goldust, which WWE owns, was only part of WWE. -
Originalchampion (
talk) 20:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
He is not death 108.29.62.8 ( talk) 03:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC)