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I think the venerable Bede was buried here also. Can anyone confirm? Mr. Jones 16:34, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Anyone who has an interest in contributing to Durham related articles may like to look at the discussion going on at Talk:The Bailey Robdurbar 10:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Dan Cruikshank argued in "Britain's Best Buildings" that the essential features of Gothic architecture were pioneered at Durham, not (as in the traditional account) at St Denis, and that Muslim craftsman may have been involved in its construction. We should find room for these arguments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.103.184 ( talk) 00:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Despite the quotation, no-one reading the architectural description given here would gain the impression that Durham Cathedral is one of the finest Romanesque buildings in the world. Hence its "top" importance and start rating. Amandajm ( talk) 08:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't there a reference to the number of steps in the cathedral tower? I suppose it isn't must know information but it should be included somewhere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewr05 ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
From the intro to Bells on Sunday this morning:
"5 of the bells date from 1693. The ring of 8 was augmented in 1980 to bring the bells to 10. The 2,800-pound tenor is tuned to D."
If you are interested in cathedrals and stuff, you might want to update the article with this information. — Tom Morris —Preceding undated comment added 21:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC).
A bigger floor plan than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Durham_Cathedral_plan.jpg is available on http://www.medart.pitt.edu/image/England/Durham/Cathedral/Plans/durham-cplan-g01-b.jpg.-- 24.186.223.176 ( talk) 18:17, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
The article currently claims the formal name of the cathedral is "The Cathedral Church of Christ, Blessed Mary the Virgin and St Cuthbert of Durham", which may very well be true, but...
Is the cathedral's dedication to St Cuthbert an official and recent thing or is this just a typo we're presenting as a fact? — LlywelynII 17:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, hell, the thing's original official listing with the British government uses the format "Cathedral Church of Christ and St. Mary the Virgin" and so does it's 2004 renewal at the local city council. I'm just going to emend the page to that fact pending some very authoritative sourcing (i.e., links to the COE's formal rededication.)
See also Henry quite pointedly excluding Cuthbert's cult from his establishment of the diocese and the university's charter. See also this, just because it's a great picture we should upload as soon as the copyright lapses. — LlywelynII 17:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The Cathedral's Constitution and Statutes document (available offline) includes St Cuthbert in the dedication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R J Hilton ( talk • contribs) 12:08, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
This well-known view shows how magnificent and grand the cathedral is. Without it, the current article does not convey how impressive the cathedral is. 92.3.76.249 ( talk) 11:48, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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I'm surprised to note that the Cathedral is described as a Priory, given that in most cases where it is in the Benedictine tradition, the Bishop is the titular Abbot of the monastery. I'm not claiming this is impossible, I'm just surprised. Anyone got any evidence one way or the other? Ender's Shadow Snr ( talk) 01:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Durham Priory was associated with the cathedral...see that article. This one might need to be revised to make that clear. Peter K Burian ( talk) 03:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Durham Priory: Durham Priory was a Benedictine priory associated with Durham Cathedral, in Durham in the north-east of England. Its head was the Prior of Durham. It was founded in 1083 and when dissolved in 1540 was succeeded by a chapter of secular canons led by a dean.
Also see https://www.durhamcathedral.co.uk/heritage 1541 – Durham Cathedral is re-founded with the last Prior becoming the first Dean, and twelve former monks becoming the first Canons
Also see http://www.engineering-timelines.com/scripts/engineeringItem.asp?id=1441: Durham Cathedral started life as a monastic cathedral, part of a Benedictine priory. ... The Reformation of the Monasteries in Tudor times resulted in the dissolution of the priory and its community. In December 1539, the Roman Catholic monastery was surrendered to the Crown. In May 1541, the cathedral was re-established as a Church of England (Anglican) place of worship. St Cuthbert’s shrine was dismantled, his coffin opened and the body — reportedly still incorrupt — interred in a plain grave behind the altar. Peter K Burian ( talk) 23:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
She is now the Bishop of Doncaster, so the list of canons is out of date. Mdrb55 ( talk) 23:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
@ A.D.Hope has removed all references to "prince bishop" from this article on the grounds that the term is anachronistic. But the term is widely used by sources - scholarly writings and the cathedral's own publications - so this seems to be a mistake. We use anachronistic terms on WP when they are in common use (eg Byzantine empire). Furius ( talk) 06:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
I've done a little tidying; trimming the very lengthy media section, converting bullet-point lists to prose, and cutting a few of the less-strong images. I'm still not sure about the images. There is a long right-hand side string, most of which don't seem to relate to the aligned sections, and aren't all of great quality. I'm also not certain about the lead image - with no disrespect to the author and acknowledging it does show the building quite well - I'm not sure it quite conveys the building's grandeur. I intend to try swapping a few in/out. Any concerns, just shout here. At some stage the Architecture section also needs a complete overhaul. KJP1 ( talk) 13:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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I think the venerable Bede was buried here also. Can anyone confirm? Mr. Jones 16:34, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Anyone who has an interest in contributing to Durham related articles may like to look at the discussion going on at Talk:The Bailey Robdurbar 10:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Dan Cruikshank argued in "Britain's Best Buildings" that the essential features of Gothic architecture were pioneered at Durham, not (as in the traditional account) at St Denis, and that Muslim craftsman may have been involved in its construction. We should find room for these arguments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.103.184 ( talk) 00:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Despite the quotation, no-one reading the architectural description given here would gain the impression that Durham Cathedral is one of the finest Romanesque buildings in the world. Hence its "top" importance and start rating. Amandajm ( talk) 08:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Why isn't there a reference to the number of steps in the cathedral tower? I suppose it isn't must know information but it should be included somewhere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewr05 ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
From the intro to Bells on Sunday this morning:
"5 of the bells date from 1693. The ring of 8 was augmented in 1980 to bring the bells to 10. The 2,800-pound tenor is tuned to D."
If you are interested in cathedrals and stuff, you might want to update the article with this information. — Tom Morris —Preceding undated comment added 21:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC).
A bigger floor plan than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Durham_Cathedral_plan.jpg is available on http://www.medart.pitt.edu/image/England/Durham/Cathedral/Plans/durham-cplan-g01-b.jpg.-- 24.186.223.176 ( talk) 18:17, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
The article currently claims the formal name of the cathedral is "The Cathedral Church of Christ, Blessed Mary the Virgin and St Cuthbert of Durham", which may very well be true, but...
Is the cathedral's dedication to St Cuthbert an official and recent thing or is this just a typo we're presenting as a fact? — LlywelynII 17:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, hell, the thing's original official listing with the British government uses the format "Cathedral Church of Christ and St. Mary the Virgin" and so does it's 2004 renewal at the local city council. I'm just going to emend the page to that fact pending some very authoritative sourcing (i.e., links to the COE's formal rededication.)
See also Henry quite pointedly excluding Cuthbert's cult from his establishment of the diocese and the university's charter. See also this, just because it's a great picture we should upload as soon as the copyright lapses. — LlywelynII 17:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The Cathedral's Constitution and Statutes document (available offline) includes St Cuthbert in the dedication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R J Hilton ( talk • contribs) 12:08, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
This well-known view shows how magnificent and grand the cathedral is. Without it, the current article does not convey how impressive the cathedral is. 92.3.76.249 ( talk) 11:48, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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I'm surprised to note that the Cathedral is described as a Priory, given that in most cases where it is in the Benedictine tradition, the Bishop is the titular Abbot of the monastery. I'm not claiming this is impossible, I'm just surprised. Anyone got any evidence one way or the other? Ender's Shadow Snr ( talk) 01:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Durham Priory was associated with the cathedral...see that article. This one might need to be revised to make that clear. Peter K Burian ( talk) 03:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Durham Priory: Durham Priory was a Benedictine priory associated with Durham Cathedral, in Durham in the north-east of England. Its head was the Prior of Durham. It was founded in 1083 and when dissolved in 1540 was succeeded by a chapter of secular canons led by a dean.
Also see https://www.durhamcathedral.co.uk/heritage 1541 – Durham Cathedral is re-founded with the last Prior becoming the first Dean, and twelve former monks becoming the first Canons
Also see http://www.engineering-timelines.com/scripts/engineeringItem.asp?id=1441: Durham Cathedral started life as a monastic cathedral, part of a Benedictine priory. ... The Reformation of the Monasteries in Tudor times resulted in the dissolution of the priory and its community. In December 1539, the Roman Catholic monastery was surrendered to the Crown. In May 1541, the cathedral was re-established as a Church of England (Anglican) place of worship. St Cuthbert’s shrine was dismantled, his coffin opened and the body — reportedly still incorrupt — interred in a plain grave behind the altar. Peter K Burian ( talk) 23:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
She is now the Bishop of Doncaster, so the list of canons is out of date. Mdrb55 ( talk) 23:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
@ A.D.Hope has removed all references to "prince bishop" from this article on the grounds that the term is anachronistic. But the term is widely used by sources - scholarly writings and the cathedral's own publications - so this seems to be a mistake. We use anachronistic terms on WP when they are in common use (eg Byzantine empire). Furius ( talk) 06:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
I've done a little tidying; trimming the very lengthy media section, converting bullet-point lists to prose, and cutting a few of the less-strong images. I'm still not sure about the images. There is a long right-hand side string, most of which don't seem to relate to the aligned sections, and aren't all of great quality. I'm also not certain about the lead image - with no disrespect to the author and acknowledging it does show the building quite well - I'm not sure it quite conveys the building's grandeur. I intend to try swapping a few in/out. Any concerns, just shout here. At some stage the Architecture section also needs a complete overhaul. KJP1 ( talk) 13:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC)