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Kautilya3, MarkH21, have a glance at this page please — can it be merged into any other article (in the same way as Burtse was merged with Depsang plains)? DTM ( talk) 10:01, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
The prospect of China initiating hostilities became evident as early as 7 September, when it issued a statement contending that India's expansion of the “local conflict … in Kashmir into a general conflict” constituted “a grave threat to peace in this part of Asia.” Further, in an apparent attempt to lay the ground for a Chinese military intervention, the statement asserted that “India's aggression against any one of its neighbours concerns all of its neighbours”. [1]
This is not your idea of a "bordr dispute", is it? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Also, during the Indo-Pakistan war of 1965, PLA troops had transgressed into Tsaskur area and killed three Indian armed personnel on 19 September 1965.[17]shouldn't be in a section labelled "Dispute"? DTM ( talk) 06:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
[south-]east of Mount Sajum opposite Dumchele" is quite vague, can't be said to be a reference to Dumchele itself.
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I am open to the possibility that some of the border areas, including Dumchele, might have been disputed for a long time. We know that Skakjung, the Indus river bed, is the "only winter grazing" in its neighbourhood. So it might have been equally valuable to both the Ladakhis and the Tibetans, and it might have changed hands over the course of history depending on which side was stronger. So the "differing perceptions" go back a long time. If Stobdan is worth his salt, he needs to tell us about them. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
All Stobdan op-eds should be used with extreme care. The man is wooly and quite confused. How can the Dumchele post be a 'forward post' when it existed before 1959? If it is a 'forward post', then what is Chang La?
He keeps talking of Chinese encroachments and obstructions without ever referring to any LAC. Are these places on the Indian side of the LAC or the Chinese side?
I suppose it is fine for a Ladakhi man to rant about things without paying attention to these things. Buf, if that is what he is doing, we should stop regarding him as a 'former ambassador' and an authority on foreign affairs. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I guess I turn off the bots in my watch list. So never realised that the OpenStreetMap screenshot got deleted. There is some trickiness with licensing OSM data that I am not able to figure out. I have queried it on commons helpdesk. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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Kautilya3, MarkH21, have a glance at this page please — can it be merged into any other article (in the same way as Burtse was merged with Depsang plains)? DTM ( talk) 10:01, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
The prospect of China initiating hostilities became evident as early as 7 September, when it issued a statement contending that India's expansion of the “local conflict … in Kashmir into a general conflict” constituted “a grave threat to peace in this part of Asia.” Further, in an apparent attempt to lay the ground for a Chinese military intervention, the statement asserted that “India's aggression against any one of its neighbours concerns all of its neighbours”. [1]
This is not your idea of a "bordr dispute", is it? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Also, during the Indo-Pakistan war of 1965, PLA troops had transgressed into Tsaskur area and killed three Indian armed personnel on 19 September 1965.[17]shouldn't be in a section labelled "Dispute"? DTM ( talk) 06:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
[south-]east of Mount Sajum opposite Dumchele" is quite vague, can't be said to be a reference to Dumchele itself.
References
I am open to the possibility that some of the border areas, including Dumchele, might have been disputed for a long time. We know that Skakjung, the Indus river bed, is the "only winter grazing" in its neighbourhood. So it might have been equally valuable to both the Ladakhis and the Tibetans, and it might have changed hands over the course of history depending on which side was stronger. So the "differing perceptions" go back a long time. If Stobdan is worth his salt, he needs to tell us about them. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
All Stobdan op-eds should be used with extreme care. The man is wooly and quite confused. How can the Dumchele post be a 'forward post' when it existed before 1959? If it is a 'forward post', then what is Chang La?
He keeps talking of Chinese encroachments and obstructions without ever referring to any LAC. Are these places on the Indian side of the LAC or the Chinese side?
I suppose it is fine for a Ladakhi man to rant about things without paying attention to these things. Buf, if that is what he is doing, we should stop regarding him as a 'former ambassador' and an authority on foreign affairs. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I guess I turn off the bots in my watch list. So never realised that the OpenStreetMap screenshot got deleted. There is some trickiness with licensing OSM data that I am not able to figure out. I have queried it on commons helpdesk. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 11:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)