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I heard differently. During WWI there were "Duck Boards" in the bottom of the trenches during trench warfare. I believe they were called this because you walked over them to avoid getting trenchfoot, so it's from the saying "like water off a duck's back." Then they came out with duck tape to seal the soldiers boots, a la a portable duck board, which is why it was called duck tape. I can't seem to find anywhere to verify this though. Alex Krupp 01:19, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
See the discussion on duct tape in Wiktionary. Neither duck tape nor duct tape seems to be attested before the 70s, and it appears most likely that duct tape came first. In particular, there don't seem to be any verifiable uses of "duck tape" from WWII, contrary to the widely-circulated story. If anyone has firm evidence to the contrary, please post it and let us know. -dmh (full profile on Wiktionary).
Apparently there is a minor disagreement about the degree of phonetic similarity between "duct tape" and "duck tape". Someone changed my "same" to "similar", but there really is no way to distinguish unless the speaker actually pronounces the adjacent /t/ sounds separately, which is awkward and very uncommon. I don't know much about tape, but I have studied linguistics. So I will change it back.
-- SamuelScarano 18:50, 2004 Aug 26 (UTC)
Commonly where? In any event, I see now that it was thoughtless of me not to consider dialectic variation. Perhaps my blunder is mitigated, however, by the fact that duct tape is an American inventon and vaguely associated with American culture. Also, I have a hunch that my statement holds true of most English dialects, even though speakers often wouldn't realize it -- these things are often counterintuitive. (In fact, to the best of my knowledge, double-consonants tend to merge in many if not most languages.) -- SamuelScarano 01:55, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)
During WWII the tape was created for the military, and was used for water-proofing ammunition casings, among other things. It had yet to be used for ducts. It became known as duck tape due to it being made using cotton duck and for being waterproof. After the war it became popular in housing, for sealing seams in air ducts. So, it became known as duct tape, but the brand became Duck Tape. -- brian0918 ™ 02:46, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Did anyone catch the Camouflage comment:
"Camouflage duct tape, although hard to find, is useful making repairs to hunting equipment and other outdoors materials."
If that was unintentional, then it's even funnier!
The tape that gets used to tape up ducts (Duct tape) has no cloth component. The two inch wide plastic-coated cloth tape is "Gaff tape". Ask anyone from theatre or film industries. Also called Hundred-Mile-an-Hour tape in racing circles.
The near-homonym duck-duct causes much confusion.
The picture attached to this entry is quite definitely "Gaff tape" -- Myk 07:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
"Gaff tape" actually has different glue properties than duc* tape. It is often used by theatre folks, who are ultra-paranoid about marking up their priceless stage floors and whatnot. However, I think this is drifting into regional dialects... thats just what gaff tape means *here*.
"Here" is USA. Also, see the wikipedia entry on Gaffer tape... it mentions the different adhesive/residue properties.
As there was no reference to what ship was that, I googled for the astronaut's name.
Therefore, I believe that part is fake. - 201.9.22.39 01:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
With the Astronaut -- I believe it is Apollo 13, the CO2 scrubber issue was one of the isssues in the Tom Hanks Movie.
What are keeks? And why would musicians want to tape them? -- Slashme 14:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The story about this product originally being called "duck tape" is not verifiable by any primary sources. It should not be listed here as fact. It certainly should not be stated that it was "developed under the name Duck Tape" as that is blatantly untrue. OED only lists it as "perhaps" an alteration of the earlier "duck tape." No researcher has ever found any documented use of the word "duck" to describe the product this article is about, except for sources dated well after the use of "duct" and after the acknowlegement by the Duck Tape brand company that "duck" was a mispronunciation of "duct" and that they capitalized on it.
I would like to build some consensus here before making any edits. I propose the following:
1) Duck tape should not redirect. Duck tape is a centuries-old fabric product used in blinds and other products. That is not the product this article is about. The redirect makes it impossible for there to ever be a stub on the original duck tape. Duck tape should be a disambiguation page with two options.
2) In this article, all assertions of etymological origins should be removed, and a new section should be created called "Etymology." It will cover the two competing beliefs on what this product was originally called. In a nutshell, one camp believes that the previous existence of a different fabric cloth tape called "duck tape," which the OED cites as "perhaps" the origin of duct tape, in combination with a popular tale about WWII Army soldiers comparing the invention's waterproof qualities to that of a duck, proves that the original name of the product was duck tape (despite those two stories being contradictory). The other camp believes in a more conservative etymology, noting that documented use of the word "duct" known to describe the product in question predates any use of the word "duck" to describe the same, by many years, and also accepts the simpler explanation that people have just confused the effectively identical pronunciation of two similar but unrelated products.
See an example of the alternative etymology here. [2]
Thoughts? -- The Yar 02:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
After further review, it seems that the consensus already exists. With a single exception, all users on both this discussion page and the Wiktionary discussion page agree that the "duck tape" story is a hoax. I plan to make some changes to reflect the duck tape story more appropriately. (one more note - cotton duck is not and was never used to make duct tape) -- The Yar 20:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The "Ask Yahoo" Q&A link states some things that are in direct contrast with more reputable sources. I'm going to remove the reference and the claims cited unless someone ahs a better source. The Yar ( talk) 23:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
That's totally awesome that the red green show is in the see also department, that's totally awesome, in fact that's actully what I came here to add but someone beat me to it. TotallyTempo 16:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
The Duck Products company itself explains that it took the name "Duck Tape" from the earlier term "duct tape," according to its own account on its Duck Tape Club site. They don't even call it "duck tape" generically: they call it "Duck® brand duct tape" or, informally, "Duck Tape". They would know, wouldn't they? — Largo Plazo 11:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I personally think that it is more appropriate and fitting if the "Unusual Uses" section was re-phrased to be "Alternative Uses". Does anyone object? I'm going to change it. If anyone feels like it shouldn't have changed I guess post here and we'll discuss it? -- FiftyOneWicked 05:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Uses aboard NASA space flights do not belong in the section on Common Uses. — Largo Plazo 18:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[3] It needs in because it has instruction videos! where else can you find how to make a wallet in step by step videos! Ductapeinnovations 02:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
The article says "strong, fabric-based, multi-purpose pressure-sensitive adhesive tape". What pressure sensitivity does this tape have? 89.240.60.214 21:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
An excellent addition to this article would be How to Conveniently Carry Duct Tape Everywhere. Clearly, readers on this page are interested in duct tape - this is a non-commerical solution to the problem of not having it when it is needed. This would be highly valued by many readers of the page. Therefore, I ask if anyone objects to its inclusion in the external links section. Please keep in mind that a site about a duct tape coffin, and protesters against conservative art are linked here. CanDo 17:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe more "conventional" uses for duct tape should be mentioned? Here is mine:
Please add it if your think it is worthy of addition. -HannesJvV- 17:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
seriously, did some guy from 3M edit this page? AD AD AD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.80.112 ( talk) 19:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Probably not. All manner of duct tape is inferior to fiberglass reinforced packaging tape. It's much stronger, has superior adhesion to smooth, clean surfaces and it leaves far less residue when removed. It's also vastly superior for creating hinges or tow ropes . But you cannot tear it, you must use a sharp knife or a scissors.
70.130.37.218 (
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02:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
That image sucks! Clearly a poor example of duct tape extravagance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardshelly ( talk • contribs) 14:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I would really appreciate it if people stop diluting the factual statement about the quite different tape that is labelled in Australian stores as "duct tape". If you buy something labelled "duct tape" in Australia, it will not be the same as the US duct tape.
It is really irrelevant to this fact that many people in Australia think of the US duct tape when they say "duct tape". The term "duct tape" refers to a completely different in tape in Australia, officially. Opinions and usage is a separate matter, covered at the end of the section. Myk ( talk) 07:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that a whole section should be allowd to remain in an article if it has no citations... ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.52.228.218 ( talk) 17:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Generic "duct tape" purchased in the UK appears to be the same as the Australian variety, if the "Edwards" brand duct tape I've just bought (for one pound!) is anything to go by. It is waterproof (or claims to be), but is made of thinnish grey PVC with no fabric backing and has very little structural strength.
To get the American type of duct tape in the UK I think you have to ask for "gaffer tape" or for a specific branded tape, e.g. Duck (TM) brand. 217.155.20.163 ( talk) 15:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The etymology section looks like it was written by two people having an academic argument, while an encyclopedia shouldn't look like it's been written by an individual..
I'm not an expert so I won't change it, but if "Duct Tape" is more solid, then that sect. should start with that, elaborate a bit about why the word "duct" is there, and then have a shorter (if possible) version of the alternate, less documented (?) spelling, "Duck Tape". - ailaG, not logged in.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.15.22 ( talk) 10:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
My father was a sheet metal worker who made/installed air ducts for a living when I was growing up, and this debate came up a few times over the years.
I'm surprised the one, major flaw in this whole debate hasn't come up more: the tape that we call 'duck (or duct) tape' CANNOT BE USED FOR AIR DUCTS.
Because Duck Tape is breathable, it can't be used to seal air leaks the same way as foil tape can, and it isn't strong enough to join ducts together, either. So why would this tape ever be called 'Duct Tape'? From a function standpoint, it wouldn't make any sense.
That's what I know of it, anyhow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.113.250 ( talk) 19:11, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree
It should really be added to the article that there is a difference between the cloth all purpose gray tape generally called "duct" tape and tape that you actually tape duct work with. The tape used for air ducts is a sliver foil tape. To me that should be the only tape known as "Duct tape" since it is the only type you can use for duct work.
"Duck" actually makes more sense for the all purpose water proof tape. Since the tape in this article could never be used for actual air ducts. And on the Duck/Duct discussion the first of the cloth all purpose tape sold was called DUCK. It was sold by Duck Products which still exists today. You can buy it from them and it's called DUCK Tape. Calling it "duct" is silly since it never touches a duct and couldn't. True "Duct Tape"is silver foil tape. It would make more sense for everyone to start calling the tape in this article a variation of gaffer tape. DingoateMyBabyyy 14:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DingoateMyBabyyy ( talk • contribs)
As a struggling young photographer in NYC in the mid 1960's, there was a company that began distributing very small but powerful lights that had a flat base. You could then tape the base, using the company recommended (and sold) duct tape, to any flat surface in the studio, a relatively easy accomplishment since the lights were no where near as heavy as their predecessors. The value of the duct tape was that it would retain it's adhesiveness despite the heat from the light. Memory is uncertain but they may have been "Lowell lights" and I am even less sure if they were early halogen bulbs. They were very small, very bright, easy to place and the duct tape worked just fine. I don't know if this will contribute to the conversation but it predates the 1970 date by several years. Mavdoc ( talk) 15:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a national standard for duct tape? Specifically: Is there any law stating that any product calling itself "duct tape" must meet certain criteria? Have ANSI, ISO, or any other industry standards organizations ruled on this? Can the user depend on any roll of duct tape to be fit for a standard list of purposes and environments, manufactured and tested to nationwide/worldwide tolerances? Or is the user pretty much at the mercy of each manufacturer? Do we even have a guarantee that the stickum is continuous and the vinyl backing is nonporous? (Background: The article refers to "standard" duct tape a few times, but that may be a lax usage of the word "standard". If someone knows of such a standard, please provide a link/citation.) -- 172.190.162.230 ( talk) 15:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
My understanding is that duct tape does not adhere in cold temperatures. The fact that Shurtape makes tape billed as working down to 25 degrees F lends some credence to this. (See the picture for the similar look to duct tape.) If duct tape does not work in cold temperatures, this is an essential fact about duct tape that would be worth mentioning on the main page, along with alternative adhesives that work in cold. 71.112.25.123 ( talk) 08:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)ATBS
What relation does Bear Bond, a tape that comes in fairly large sheets commonly used for temporary bodywork repairs in NASCAR and other types of suto racing, have to duct tape? Who makes Bear Bond? I've been searching for hours on this, only to be defeated by idiotic search engines that insist they know better than I what I'm looking for. Try putting this into any search engine "bear bond" nascar -bearer -jefferson -stock -teddy -paddington and you'll still get thousands of totally unrelated hits including ones where the words bear and bond are widely separated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes, you just need to go to the races and ask a few bold questions--of people with dirt under their fingernails. Desk jockeys rarely have it all. Frankly, I find duct tape inferior to other kinds of tapes and glues which are priced similarly. 70.130.37.218 ( talk) 02:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Also known as Tuck Tape in Canada. [5] -- œ ™ 23:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
The article does not go on to explain how musicians and film/theatre crews use duct tape. I think it should, because merely saying "They use duct tape too!" doesn't really say much. - furrykef ( Talk at me) 17:45, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
In the "Different meaning in Australia" section, it said duck tape while referring to a picture that clearly had duct tape. Was this a typo or intentional? I have changed it to duct tape as I believe it is a typo, if it was intentional, please explain why, and change it back. Black.jeff ( talk) 01:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
This Urban Dictionary page claims that the nickname "100mph tape" comes from it being used to hold together a jeep at 100mph. The Wikipedia article currently claims that the nickname comes from being used in 100mph winds (source removed, since it was a dead link to an army surplus store), but someone else on the talk page claims that "100mph tape" originates from racing usage. Does anyone have an appropriate source to back up any of these etymologies?-- Subversive Sound ( talk) 15:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
If you look at the article's history page, you'll see that people keep changing the word "duck" to "duct" and visa versa, and the words are used interchangeably in some sections in the article (just search for "duck tape" and "duct tape"). The Duck Products company itself says the word "duct" was used at first - see the comment by Largo Plazo and also look on their website, plus it's a brand name. In other words, the word "duck" should only be used in the article when referring to that specific brand of duct tape. Anywhere else, including under the picture of duct tape, it should say "duct". And this is not enough: the article should start off with a clear note that 'in this article, "Duck tape" is used to refer to the specific brand, and "duct tape" to refer to the tape in general', because without it people will continue to change the article back and forth. In fact, some people will just think that the word "duck" anywhere is a form of vandalism and that the whole article should be reverted back to an old revision. -- 82.171.70.54 ( talk) 14:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
It's called "duct tape" generically, because that is it's primary purpose: sealing the ducting in your home. Duck Tape is a brand name. Therefore, duct tape would be the correct usage. Should we call every pair of locking pliers by the brand name, Vice Grip?
Christopher, Salem, OR (
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The use of Duck or duck when referring to the subject of an entry entitled Duct Tape is inappropriate, yet it occurs repeatedly in this article. I propose that the article carrying the title Duct Tape limit its discussion of Duck tape to the mention of the product with that trade name and the confusion or arguments regarding its use. That will give us a clean article on duct tape. Those that would like to invest time and energy in the debate over the origin of the terms Duck tape or duck tape can do so on an article with that title. Jman53705 ( talk) 15:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
The MacGyver link does nothing to add to this article. The MacGyver article only contains one sentence about duct tape and even then nothing about how it's used. It was probably added as a joke, and so I've removed it. Rklawton ( talk) 13:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Several unrelated IP addresses have taken it upon themselves to add MacGyver to the "see also" section of this article. This may be due to a joke made on the "it made my day" website about this subject. While I appreciate a bit of humor, this encyclopedia is not the place for it (creative edit summaries and user pages notwithstanding), and it's my opinion that removing this repeated addition falls under the domain of vandal fighting and not subject to 3RR. If an editor disagrees with this assessment, please make note of it here. Rklawton ( talk) 14:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
As we know the army developed duct tape during the first world war but they called it DUCK TAPE because of the waterproof qualities of the tape, it was later called duct tape after the war because of its use on air ducts etc. 11:24 Sunday, July 25 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.144.81 ( talk) 15:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
True but also the original color is not gray it is dark military green. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.213.79 ( talk) 23:05, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
I question the conversion of "100mph" in paragraph 2 to "160.93 km/h". It's doubtless quite accurate, but implies an unrealistic degree of precision. If a value is quoted to two decimal places with no plus-or-minus figure it implies that it is accurate to within .05 of the quoted value. Technically the quoted value of 100mph means 99.5 to 100.5 mph, so the conversion is between 160.13 and 161.73. It would be better to quote it as 161 km/h to avoid implying unwarranted precison. In this context, of course, since we're talking about a wind speed the tape can resist, even 161 km/m implies unwarranted precision. I would suggest the text should read that the tape "was supposed to hold up to 100 mph (about 160 km/h) winds." Petrol999 ( talk) 21:34, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I've been in various bits of the production industry in Aus for 12 years, I'm unaware of gaffer tape having an adhesive resistant to removing paint, etc. In my experience the standard Nashua 357 gaffer will happily remove paint, wallpaper and anything else it's stuck to, the last thing I would do is put gaffer tape up a wall that needed to stay looking nice. Saying duck tape here will generally get you an odd look and duct tape is for, well, ducts and has no cloth. What I don't understand is calling cloth tape "duct" tape, surely the cloth makes it not stretchy and hence unsuitable for ducts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.42.189 ( talk) 10:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
It isn't, actually. We know exactly what Duct tape is, and we know the difference between Duct tape, and wide electrical tape - I've never heard of what amounts to wide electrical tape being referred to as Duct Tape. If anything, Duct tape is sometimes (wrongly) called gaffer tape here, lumping it in with actual gaffer tape. Churba ( talk) 14:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
While I'm reasonably sure it wasn't me that added the citation needed tag - might have been, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't - it absolutely DOES need the citation needed tag, because the only citation provided in that section goes back to a 404, but on investigation, it shows an article about the construction of Medieval re-enactment rapier construction by his preferred method, and barely mentions the tape in question. When it does, he notes that it's sold as Vinyl duct tape, that's it's different from US duct tape, and that if it's colored and/or a bit thinner, it's called electrical tape. Which would, if anything, support the "Wide electrical tape" definition. Further, in no way does it meet the Wikipedia standards for a reliable source - It's not a reliable, published source(It's a mostly unrelated guide, as mentioned, which barely mentions the tape, and it's a single person's guide on his preferred method of rapier construction, published by a small reenactment group of just over 100 members, and originally posted no later than 2004, on his personal website, from which it was copied verbatim), it does not appear in any other source which meet those criteria, and it doesn't directly support the content as written in the article. In short, as a reference, it's utter bollocks.
Thus, I'm removing said extremely poor citation, And adding a citation needed tag. If you believe so strongly that this is the case, then you should be able to find a reliable source for this information. And after a quick burn through the revisions page, it shows that you're the one that added it in the first place - but that was quite a while ago, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and instead of removing it as original research with zero verifiability beyond a single context-less picture that you yourself took and added, I'm putting up the call for a citation(that isn't bollocks, though that shouldn't need to be said) to prove it. Preferably by someone else, as so far, you've consistently shown to be particularly defensive of the truth of this claim, but as of yet have not actually proved it to any reasonable standard required by Wikipedia. Churba ( talk) 01:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
It's been months without any reply, so I'm adding the OfficeWorks link above as a citation and removing the citation-needed tag. I hope this citation is sufficient. The image seems pretty clearly to show the lack of cloth component to me, and the product description does not mention cloth at all. Myk ( talk) 04:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
-- Ericg33 ( talk) 22:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I think that there should be a topic on the main article about other uses for duct tape, such as prom dresses and wallets. Thanks for listening! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.37.14 ( talk) 23:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I propose that the section on wart treatment be removed, as it is of negligible relevance to the subject. The information is on the wart page. At most a single short sentence in the "Popular Culture" section would be more appropriate.
Darkman101 (
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184.76.225.106 (
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09:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I am unsure of the 'fair use' for this great photo:
Screen shot from Apollo 13 footage showing Jim Lovell with duct tape. from:
http://www.universetoday.com/63673/13-things-that-saved-apollo-13-part-10-duct-tape/
That article also has interview quotes, including this great one:
(Duct tape is attributed to saving Apollo 13).
I don't know how to attribute this type of article. This is something like a blog by Nancy Atkinson on April 26, 2010; Senior Editor, Universe Today. ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 02:44, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Duck Products is listed in See also; and "duct" vs. "duck" is discussed in this article. Shouldn't there be some mention of ShurTech and their trademark? Perhaps in the etymology section? Trademark: "...property of ShurTech or other members of The ShurTech Group, LLC" ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 06:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Problem with: The tape is named so because it was used during the Vietnam War... -- the term was used prior to that, especially in auto racing circles and Bonneville racing in particular. I doubt there is mention in publications since it was essentially 'common knowledge' back then. Following WW 2, GIs, especially mechanics, returned with an appreciation for the wonders of duct tape (and its variants) and many veterans went into racing. ~Eric F[edit) ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 13:26, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Maybe section on inappropriate uses would be appropriate. Here's one:
No doubt there are many more. 72.34.80.28 ( talk) 06:25, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
In the UK, the term 'gaffer tape' is widely used to refer to duct tape, whereas the product referred to here is known as 'camera tape'.
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Duct Tape Duct Tape is a very fun hobby to do. Duct tape is an art. It is very easy. There are lots of colors and patterns to choose from. Go to Michael and get duct tape supplies from there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.61.34.210 ( talk) 14:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC) |
It seems clear that the subject of this article is normally referred to as "Cloth tape" or "Gaffer tape" in Australia; and that there the term "duct tape" usually refers to "PVC Duct Tape" - a cloth-less product only tangentially related to the subject of this article. It would be nice if someone could find a good, reliable and suitable source documenting this, but as some evidence: http://adhesivetapes.com.au/category.do?idCateg=55 Snori ( talk) 00:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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In 1930's magazines, there are references to the use of "tyre tape", which I would guess would be duct tape used to repair car tyres. Some old cartoons are shown with car tyres with lots of tape repairs on them.( 185.181.236.222 ( talk) 07:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC))
While duct tape (adhesive tape reinforced with duck cloth with waterproof backing) has been made with woodland camouflage patterns, proper camouflage tape for outdoor use has more in common with the properties of gaffer tape: breathable thicker cloth and non-residue adhesive. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 15:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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I heard differently. During WWI there were "Duck Boards" in the bottom of the trenches during trench warfare. I believe they were called this because you walked over them to avoid getting trenchfoot, so it's from the saying "like water off a duck's back." Then they came out with duck tape to seal the soldiers boots, a la a portable duck board, which is why it was called duck tape. I can't seem to find anywhere to verify this though. Alex Krupp 01:19, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
See the discussion on duct tape in Wiktionary. Neither duck tape nor duct tape seems to be attested before the 70s, and it appears most likely that duct tape came first. In particular, there don't seem to be any verifiable uses of "duck tape" from WWII, contrary to the widely-circulated story. If anyone has firm evidence to the contrary, please post it and let us know. -dmh (full profile on Wiktionary).
Apparently there is a minor disagreement about the degree of phonetic similarity between "duct tape" and "duck tape". Someone changed my "same" to "similar", but there really is no way to distinguish unless the speaker actually pronounces the adjacent /t/ sounds separately, which is awkward and very uncommon. I don't know much about tape, but I have studied linguistics. So I will change it back.
-- SamuelScarano 18:50, 2004 Aug 26 (UTC)
Commonly where? In any event, I see now that it was thoughtless of me not to consider dialectic variation. Perhaps my blunder is mitigated, however, by the fact that duct tape is an American inventon and vaguely associated with American culture. Also, I have a hunch that my statement holds true of most English dialects, even though speakers often wouldn't realize it -- these things are often counterintuitive. (In fact, to the best of my knowledge, double-consonants tend to merge in many if not most languages.) -- SamuelScarano 01:55, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)
During WWII the tape was created for the military, and was used for water-proofing ammunition casings, among other things. It had yet to be used for ducts. It became known as duck tape due to it being made using cotton duck and for being waterproof. After the war it became popular in housing, for sealing seams in air ducts. So, it became known as duct tape, but the brand became Duck Tape. -- brian0918 ™ 02:46, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Did anyone catch the Camouflage comment:
"Camouflage duct tape, although hard to find, is useful making repairs to hunting equipment and other outdoors materials."
If that was unintentional, then it's even funnier!
The tape that gets used to tape up ducts (Duct tape) has no cloth component. The two inch wide plastic-coated cloth tape is "Gaff tape". Ask anyone from theatre or film industries. Also called Hundred-Mile-an-Hour tape in racing circles.
The near-homonym duck-duct causes much confusion.
The picture attached to this entry is quite definitely "Gaff tape" -- Myk 07:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
"Gaff tape" actually has different glue properties than duc* tape. It is often used by theatre folks, who are ultra-paranoid about marking up their priceless stage floors and whatnot. However, I think this is drifting into regional dialects... thats just what gaff tape means *here*.
"Here" is USA. Also, see the wikipedia entry on Gaffer tape... it mentions the different adhesive/residue properties.
As there was no reference to what ship was that, I googled for the astronaut's name.
Therefore, I believe that part is fake. - 201.9.22.39 01:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
With the Astronaut -- I believe it is Apollo 13, the CO2 scrubber issue was one of the isssues in the Tom Hanks Movie.
What are keeks? And why would musicians want to tape them? -- Slashme 14:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The story about this product originally being called "duck tape" is not verifiable by any primary sources. It should not be listed here as fact. It certainly should not be stated that it was "developed under the name Duck Tape" as that is blatantly untrue. OED only lists it as "perhaps" an alteration of the earlier "duck tape." No researcher has ever found any documented use of the word "duck" to describe the product this article is about, except for sources dated well after the use of "duct" and after the acknowlegement by the Duck Tape brand company that "duck" was a mispronunciation of "duct" and that they capitalized on it.
I would like to build some consensus here before making any edits. I propose the following:
1) Duck tape should not redirect. Duck tape is a centuries-old fabric product used in blinds and other products. That is not the product this article is about. The redirect makes it impossible for there to ever be a stub on the original duck tape. Duck tape should be a disambiguation page with two options.
2) In this article, all assertions of etymological origins should be removed, and a new section should be created called "Etymology." It will cover the two competing beliefs on what this product was originally called. In a nutshell, one camp believes that the previous existence of a different fabric cloth tape called "duck tape," which the OED cites as "perhaps" the origin of duct tape, in combination with a popular tale about WWII Army soldiers comparing the invention's waterproof qualities to that of a duck, proves that the original name of the product was duck tape (despite those two stories being contradictory). The other camp believes in a more conservative etymology, noting that documented use of the word "duct" known to describe the product in question predates any use of the word "duck" to describe the same, by many years, and also accepts the simpler explanation that people have just confused the effectively identical pronunciation of two similar but unrelated products.
See an example of the alternative etymology here. [2]
Thoughts? -- The Yar 02:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
After further review, it seems that the consensus already exists. With a single exception, all users on both this discussion page and the Wiktionary discussion page agree that the "duck tape" story is a hoax. I plan to make some changes to reflect the duck tape story more appropriately. (one more note - cotton duck is not and was never used to make duct tape) -- The Yar 20:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The "Ask Yahoo" Q&A link states some things that are in direct contrast with more reputable sources. I'm going to remove the reference and the claims cited unless someone ahs a better source. The Yar ( talk) 23:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
That's totally awesome that the red green show is in the see also department, that's totally awesome, in fact that's actully what I came here to add but someone beat me to it. TotallyTempo 16:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
The Duck Products company itself explains that it took the name "Duck Tape" from the earlier term "duct tape," according to its own account on its Duck Tape Club site. They don't even call it "duck tape" generically: they call it "Duck® brand duct tape" or, informally, "Duck Tape". They would know, wouldn't they? — Largo Plazo 11:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I personally think that it is more appropriate and fitting if the "Unusual Uses" section was re-phrased to be "Alternative Uses". Does anyone object? I'm going to change it. If anyone feels like it shouldn't have changed I guess post here and we'll discuss it? -- FiftyOneWicked 05:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Uses aboard NASA space flights do not belong in the section on Common Uses. — Largo Plazo 18:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[3] It needs in because it has instruction videos! where else can you find how to make a wallet in step by step videos! Ductapeinnovations 02:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
The article says "strong, fabric-based, multi-purpose pressure-sensitive adhesive tape". What pressure sensitivity does this tape have? 89.240.60.214 21:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
An excellent addition to this article would be How to Conveniently Carry Duct Tape Everywhere. Clearly, readers on this page are interested in duct tape - this is a non-commerical solution to the problem of not having it when it is needed. This would be highly valued by many readers of the page. Therefore, I ask if anyone objects to its inclusion in the external links section. Please keep in mind that a site about a duct tape coffin, and protesters against conservative art are linked here. CanDo 17:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe more "conventional" uses for duct tape should be mentioned? Here is mine:
Please add it if your think it is worthy of addition. -HannesJvV- 17:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
seriously, did some guy from 3M edit this page? AD AD AD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.80.112 ( talk) 19:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Probably not. All manner of duct tape is inferior to fiberglass reinforced packaging tape. It's much stronger, has superior adhesion to smooth, clean surfaces and it leaves far less residue when removed. It's also vastly superior for creating hinges or tow ropes . But you cannot tear it, you must use a sharp knife or a scissors.
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That image sucks! Clearly a poor example of duct tape extravagance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardshelly ( talk • contribs) 14:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I would really appreciate it if people stop diluting the factual statement about the quite different tape that is labelled in Australian stores as "duct tape". If you buy something labelled "duct tape" in Australia, it will not be the same as the US duct tape.
It is really irrelevant to this fact that many people in Australia think of the US duct tape when they say "duct tape". The term "duct tape" refers to a completely different in tape in Australia, officially. Opinions and usage is a separate matter, covered at the end of the section. Myk ( talk) 07:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that a whole section should be allowd to remain in an article if it has no citations... ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.52.228.218 ( talk) 17:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Generic "duct tape" purchased in the UK appears to be the same as the Australian variety, if the "Edwards" brand duct tape I've just bought (for one pound!) is anything to go by. It is waterproof (or claims to be), but is made of thinnish grey PVC with no fabric backing and has very little structural strength.
To get the American type of duct tape in the UK I think you have to ask for "gaffer tape" or for a specific branded tape, e.g. Duck (TM) brand. 217.155.20.163 ( talk) 15:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The etymology section looks like it was written by two people having an academic argument, while an encyclopedia shouldn't look like it's been written by an individual..
I'm not an expert so I won't change it, but if "Duct Tape" is more solid, then that sect. should start with that, elaborate a bit about why the word "duct" is there, and then have a shorter (if possible) version of the alternate, less documented (?) spelling, "Duck Tape". - ailaG, not logged in.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.15.22 ( talk) 10:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
My father was a sheet metal worker who made/installed air ducts for a living when I was growing up, and this debate came up a few times over the years.
I'm surprised the one, major flaw in this whole debate hasn't come up more: the tape that we call 'duck (or duct) tape' CANNOT BE USED FOR AIR DUCTS.
Because Duck Tape is breathable, it can't be used to seal air leaks the same way as foil tape can, and it isn't strong enough to join ducts together, either. So why would this tape ever be called 'Duct Tape'? From a function standpoint, it wouldn't make any sense.
That's what I know of it, anyhow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.113.250 ( talk) 19:11, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree
It should really be added to the article that there is a difference between the cloth all purpose gray tape generally called "duct" tape and tape that you actually tape duct work with. The tape used for air ducts is a sliver foil tape. To me that should be the only tape known as "Duct tape" since it is the only type you can use for duct work.
"Duck" actually makes more sense for the all purpose water proof tape. Since the tape in this article could never be used for actual air ducts. And on the Duck/Duct discussion the first of the cloth all purpose tape sold was called DUCK. It was sold by Duck Products which still exists today. You can buy it from them and it's called DUCK Tape. Calling it "duct" is silly since it never touches a duct and couldn't. True "Duct Tape"is silver foil tape. It would make more sense for everyone to start calling the tape in this article a variation of gaffer tape. DingoateMyBabyyy 14:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DingoateMyBabyyy ( talk • contribs)
As a struggling young photographer in NYC in the mid 1960's, there was a company that began distributing very small but powerful lights that had a flat base. You could then tape the base, using the company recommended (and sold) duct tape, to any flat surface in the studio, a relatively easy accomplishment since the lights were no where near as heavy as their predecessors. The value of the duct tape was that it would retain it's adhesiveness despite the heat from the light. Memory is uncertain but they may have been "Lowell lights" and I am even less sure if they were early halogen bulbs. They were very small, very bright, easy to place and the duct tape worked just fine. I don't know if this will contribute to the conversation but it predates the 1970 date by several years. Mavdoc ( talk) 15:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a national standard for duct tape? Specifically: Is there any law stating that any product calling itself "duct tape" must meet certain criteria? Have ANSI, ISO, or any other industry standards organizations ruled on this? Can the user depend on any roll of duct tape to be fit for a standard list of purposes and environments, manufactured and tested to nationwide/worldwide tolerances? Or is the user pretty much at the mercy of each manufacturer? Do we even have a guarantee that the stickum is continuous and the vinyl backing is nonporous? (Background: The article refers to "standard" duct tape a few times, but that may be a lax usage of the word "standard". If someone knows of such a standard, please provide a link/citation.) -- 172.190.162.230 ( talk) 15:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
My understanding is that duct tape does not adhere in cold temperatures. The fact that Shurtape makes tape billed as working down to 25 degrees F lends some credence to this. (See the picture for the similar look to duct tape.) If duct tape does not work in cold temperatures, this is an essential fact about duct tape that would be worth mentioning on the main page, along with alternative adhesives that work in cold. 71.112.25.123 ( talk) 08:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)ATBS
What relation does Bear Bond, a tape that comes in fairly large sheets commonly used for temporary bodywork repairs in NASCAR and other types of suto racing, have to duct tape? Who makes Bear Bond? I've been searching for hours on this, only to be defeated by idiotic search engines that insist they know better than I what I'm looking for. Try putting this into any search engine "bear bond" nascar -bearer -jefferson -stock -teddy -paddington and you'll still get thousands of totally unrelated hits including ones where the words bear and bond are widely separated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes, you just need to go to the races and ask a few bold questions--of people with dirt under their fingernails. Desk jockeys rarely have it all. Frankly, I find duct tape inferior to other kinds of tapes and glues which are priced similarly. 70.130.37.218 ( talk) 02:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Also known as Tuck Tape in Canada. [5] -- œ ™ 23:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
The article does not go on to explain how musicians and film/theatre crews use duct tape. I think it should, because merely saying "They use duct tape too!" doesn't really say much. - furrykef ( Talk at me) 17:45, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
In the "Different meaning in Australia" section, it said duck tape while referring to a picture that clearly had duct tape. Was this a typo or intentional? I have changed it to duct tape as I believe it is a typo, if it was intentional, please explain why, and change it back. Black.jeff ( talk) 01:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
This Urban Dictionary page claims that the nickname "100mph tape" comes from it being used to hold together a jeep at 100mph. The Wikipedia article currently claims that the nickname comes from being used in 100mph winds (source removed, since it was a dead link to an army surplus store), but someone else on the talk page claims that "100mph tape" originates from racing usage. Does anyone have an appropriate source to back up any of these etymologies?-- Subversive Sound ( talk) 15:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
If you look at the article's history page, you'll see that people keep changing the word "duck" to "duct" and visa versa, and the words are used interchangeably in some sections in the article (just search for "duck tape" and "duct tape"). The Duck Products company itself says the word "duct" was used at first - see the comment by Largo Plazo and also look on their website, plus it's a brand name. In other words, the word "duck" should only be used in the article when referring to that specific brand of duct tape. Anywhere else, including under the picture of duct tape, it should say "duct". And this is not enough: the article should start off with a clear note that 'in this article, "Duck tape" is used to refer to the specific brand, and "duct tape" to refer to the tape in general', because without it people will continue to change the article back and forth. In fact, some people will just think that the word "duck" anywhere is a form of vandalism and that the whole article should be reverted back to an old revision. -- 82.171.70.54 ( talk) 14:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
It's called "duct tape" generically, because that is it's primary purpose: sealing the ducting in your home. Duck Tape is a brand name. Therefore, duct tape would be the correct usage. Should we call every pair of locking pliers by the brand name, Vice Grip?
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The use of Duck or duck when referring to the subject of an entry entitled Duct Tape is inappropriate, yet it occurs repeatedly in this article. I propose that the article carrying the title Duct Tape limit its discussion of Duck tape to the mention of the product with that trade name and the confusion or arguments regarding its use. That will give us a clean article on duct tape. Those that would like to invest time and energy in the debate over the origin of the terms Duck tape or duck tape can do so on an article with that title. Jman53705 ( talk) 15:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
The MacGyver link does nothing to add to this article. The MacGyver article only contains one sentence about duct tape and even then nothing about how it's used. It was probably added as a joke, and so I've removed it. Rklawton ( talk) 13:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Several unrelated IP addresses have taken it upon themselves to add MacGyver to the "see also" section of this article. This may be due to a joke made on the "it made my day" website about this subject. While I appreciate a bit of humor, this encyclopedia is not the place for it (creative edit summaries and user pages notwithstanding), and it's my opinion that removing this repeated addition falls under the domain of vandal fighting and not subject to 3RR. If an editor disagrees with this assessment, please make note of it here. Rklawton ( talk) 14:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
As we know the army developed duct tape during the first world war but they called it DUCK TAPE because of the waterproof qualities of the tape, it was later called duct tape after the war because of its use on air ducts etc. 11:24 Sunday, July 25 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.144.81 ( talk) 15:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
True but also the original color is not gray it is dark military green. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.213.79 ( talk) 23:05, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
I question the conversion of "100mph" in paragraph 2 to "160.93 km/h". It's doubtless quite accurate, but implies an unrealistic degree of precision. If a value is quoted to two decimal places with no plus-or-minus figure it implies that it is accurate to within .05 of the quoted value. Technically the quoted value of 100mph means 99.5 to 100.5 mph, so the conversion is between 160.13 and 161.73. It would be better to quote it as 161 km/h to avoid implying unwarranted precison. In this context, of course, since we're talking about a wind speed the tape can resist, even 161 km/m implies unwarranted precision. I would suggest the text should read that the tape "was supposed to hold up to 100 mph (about 160 km/h) winds." Petrol999 ( talk) 21:34, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I've been in various bits of the production industry in Aus for 12 years, I'm unaware of gaffer tape having an adhesive resistant to removing paint, etc. In my experience the standard Nashua 357 gaffer will happily remove paint, wallpaper and anything else it's stuck to, the last thing I would do is put gaffer tape up a wall that needed to stay looking nice. Saying duck tape here will generally get you an odd look and duct tape is for, well, ducts and has no cloth. What I don't understand is calling cloth tape "duct" tape, surely the cloth makes it not stretchy and hence unsuitable for ducts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.42.189 ( talk) 10:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
It isn't, actually. We know exactly what Duct tape is, and we know the difference between Duct tape, and wide electrical tape - I've never heard of what amounts to wide electrical tape being referred to as Duct Tape. If anything, Duct tape is sometimes (wrongly) called gaffer tape here, lumping it in with actual gaffer tape. Churba ( talk) 14:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
While I'm reasonably sure it wasn't me that added the citation needed tag - might have been, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't - it absolutely DOES need the citation needed tag, because the only citation provided in that section goes back to a 404, but on investigation, it shows an article about the construction of Medieval re-enactment rapier construction by his preferred method, and barely mentions the tape in question. When it does, he notes that it's sold as Vinyl duct tape, that's it's different from US duct tape, and that if it's colored and/or a bit thinner, it's called electrical tape. Which would, if anything, support the "Wide electrical tape" definition. Further, in no way does it meet the Wikipedia standards for a reliable source - It's not a reliable, published source(It's a mostly unrelated guide, as mentioned, which barely mentions the tape, and it's a single person's guide on his preferred method of rapier construction, published by a small reenactment group of just over 100 members, and originally posted no later than 2004, on his personal website, from which it was copied verbatim), it does not appear in any other source which meet those criteria, and it doesn't directly support the content as written in the article. In short, as a reference, it's utter bollocks.
Thus, I'm removing said extremely poor citation, And adding a citation needed tag. If you believe so strongly that this is the case, then you should be able to find a reliable source for this information. And after a quick burn through the revisions page, it shows that you're the one that added it in the first place - but that was quite a while ago, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and instead of removing it as original research with zero verifiability beyond a single context-less picture that you yourself took and added, I'm putting up the call for a citation(that isn't bollocks, though that shouldn't need to be said) to prove it. Preferably by someone else, as so far, you've consistently shown to be particularly defensive of the truth of this claim, but as of yet have not actually proved it to any reasonable standard required by Wikipedia. Churba ( talk) 01:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
It's been months without any reply, so I'm adding the OfficeWorks link above as a citation and removing the citation-needed tag. I hope this citation is sufficient. The image seems pretty clearly to show the lack of cloth component to me, and the product description does not mention cloth at all. Myk ( talk) 04:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
-- Ericg33 ( talk) 22:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I think that there should be a topic on the main article about other uses for duct tape, such as prom dresses and wallets. Thanks for listening! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.37.14 ( talk) 23:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I propose that the section on wart treatment be removed, as it is of negligible relevance to the subject. The information is on the wart page. At most a single short sentence in the "Popular Culture" section would be more appropriate.
Darkman101 (
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I am unsure of the 'fair use' for this great photo:
Screen shot from Apollo 13 footage showing Jim Lovell with duct tape. from:
http://www.universetoday.com/63673/13-things-that-saved-apollo-13-part-10-duct-tape/
That article also has interview quotes, including this great one:
(Duct tape is attributed to saving Apollo 13).
I don't know how to attribute this type of article. This is something like a blog by Nancy Atkinson on April 26, 2010; Senior Editor, Universe Today. ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 02:44, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Duck Products is listed in See also; and "duct" vs. "duck" is discussed in this article. Shouldn't there be some mention of ShurTech and their trademark? Perhaps in the etymology section? Trademark: "...property of ShurTech or other members of The ShurTech Group, LLC" ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 06:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Problem with: The tape is named so because it was used during the Vietnam War... -- the term was used prior to that, especially in auto racing circles and Bonneville racing in particular. I doubt there is mention in publications since it was essentially 'common knowledge' back then. Following WW 2, GIs, especially mechanics, returned with an appreciation for the wonders of duct tape (and its variants) and many veterans went into racing. ~Eric F[edit) ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 ( talk) 13:26, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Maybe section on inappropriate uses would be appropriate. Here's one:
No doubt there are many more. 72.34.80.28 ( talk) 06:25, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
In the UK, the term 'gaffer tape' is widely used to refer to duct tape, whereas the product referred to here is known as 'camera tape'.
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Duct Tape Duct Tape is a very fun hobby to do. Duct tape is an art. It is very easy. There are lots of colors and patterns to choose from. Go to Michael and get duct tape supplies from there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.61.34.210 ( talk) 14:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC) |
It seems clear that the subject of this article is normally referred to as "Cloth tape" or "Gaffer tape" in Australia; and that there the term "duct tape" usually refers to "PVC Duct Tape" - a cloth-less product only tangentially related to the subject of this article. It would be nice if someone could find a good, reliable and suitable source documenting this, but as some evidence: http://adhesivetapes.com.au/category.do?idCateg=55 Snori ( talk) 00:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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In 1930's magazines, there are references to the use of "tyre tape", which I would guess would be duct tape used to repair car tyres. Some old cartoons are shown with car tyres with lots of tape repairs on them.( 185.181.236.222 ( talk) 07:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC))
While duct tape (adhesive tape reinforced with duck cloth with waterproof backing) has been made with woodland camouflage patterns, proper camouflage tape for outdoor use has more in common with the properties of gaffer tape: breathable thicker cloth and non-residue adhesive. -- Naaman Brown ( talk) 15:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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