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Non-substantiated claims that Dov Hikind has been a terrorist "follower" should be removed. 84.23.155.84 ( talk) 19:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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@ ZinedineZidane98: These recent removals seem like overkill. I agree that some content should be removed, to maintain a neutral POV. However, I can't find the policy in WP:BLP where it recommends removing all critical coverage about a living person. Could you please explain your proposed removals? epicgenius ( talk) 21:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
no "controversy" sections in BLPs. However, a lot of BLPs have controversy sections, so maybe this can be trimmed to one sentence. Same with this edit with the summary
"Hikind was acquitted of all charges by a jury" (per BLP). Again, this could've been trimmed into one sentence. I wasn't the person who added the information to this article, I just noticed the wholesale blankings.Next time, please be more careful with your reverts. My edit wasn't a "blind reversion". I selectively restored the sections that may need to be discussed. I agree that some of the sources are tabloids and the "views on a criminal incident" section is totally unnecessary, thus why I didn't restore them. I also fixed some errors, like changing "blasted" to "criticized", and removing the disambiguation link to profiling. On the other hand, your subsequent edit removed all of these fixes. epicgenius ( talk) 13:30, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
The very first sentence of the Observer article begins, "State Assemblyman Dov Hikind has revived his proposal for racial profiling by security personnel" (emphasis mine). The author goes on to state, "Hikind told me by phone that if there is a 'compelling governmental interest' to consider race in college admissions ... the same is true in a climate of heightened security risk". Even Fox News (and Hikind himself) use the word "racial": "[Hikind proposed] allowing cops to use racial profiling to target Middle Easterners when they search bags ... Dov Hikind charged that it's 'insane' to look for bombs in the bags of '75-year-old grandmothers,' ... 'everyone is terrified of using the word "racial"', [Hikind said]". I see no problem whatever in calling this "racial profiling". — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 18:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Sir Joseph you are confusing
conservatism (political ideology) with
Conservative Party (American political party). Hikind is a conservative member of the Democratic party, but not a member of the Conservative Party, so that still qualifies him to be placed in the category with other conservative Democrats such as
Happy Chandler and
Ezekiel C. Gathings. Regardless of the capitalization on the category page, if you read the actual article on
conservatism you will see that the term is not capitalized in sentence case, such as in this sentence in the lede: There is no single set of policies regarded as conservative because the meaning of conservatism depends on what is considered traditional in a given place and time.
I think you should reinstate the category.
StonyBrook (
talk) 06:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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Non-substantiated claims that Dov Hikind has been a terrorist "follower" should be removed. 84.23.155.84 ( talk) 19:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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@ ZinedineZidane98: These recent removals seem like overkill. I agree that some content should be removed, to maintain a neutral POV. However, I can't find the policy in WP:BLP where it recommends removing all critical coverage about a living person. Could you please explain your proposed removals? epicgenius ( talk) 21:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
no "controversy" sections in BLPs. However, a lot of BLPs have controversy sections, so maybe this can be trimmed to one sentence. Same with this edit with the summary
"Hikind was acquitted of all charges by a jury" (per BLP). Again, this could've been trimmed into one sentence. I wasn't the person who added the information to this article, I just noticed the wholesale blankings.Next time, please be more careful with your reverts. My edit wasn't a "blind reversion". I selectively restored the sections that may need to be discussed. I agree that some of the sources are tabloids and the "views on a criminal incident" section is totally unnecessary, thus why I didn't restore them. I also fixed some errors, like changing "blasted" to "criticized", and removing the disambiguation link to profiling. On the other hand, your subsequent edit removed all of these fixes. epicgenius ( talk) 13:30, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
The very first sentence of the Observer article begins, "State Assemblyman Dov Hikind has revived his proposal for racial profiling by security personnel" (emphasis mine). The author goes on to state, "Hikind told me by phone that if there is a 'compelling governmental interest' to consider race in college admissions ... the same is true in a climate of heightened security risk". Even Fox News (and Hikind himself) use the word "racial": "[Hikind proposed] allowing cops to use racial profiling to target Middle Easterners when they search bags ... Dov Hikind charged that it's 'insane' to look for bombs in the bags of '75-year-old grandmothers,' ... 'everyone is terrified of using the word "racial"', [Hikind said]". I see no problem whatever in calling this "racial profiling". — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 18:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Sir Joseph you are confusing
conservatism (political ideology) with
Conservative Party (American political party). Hikind is a conservative member of the Democratic party, but not a member of the Conservative Party, so that still qualifies him to be placed in the category with other conservative Democrats such as
Happy Chandler and
Ezekiel C. Gathings. Regardless of the capitalization on the category page, if you read the actual article on
conservatism you will see that the term is not capitalized in sentence case, such as in this sentence in the lede: There is no single set of policies regarded as conservative because the meaning of conservatism depends on what is considered traditional in a given place and time.
I think you should reinstate the category.
StonyBrook (
talk) 06:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)