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Saving this as Wiktionary fodder: ' Dory is also a nickname. For females, it is usually short for "Doris," "Dorinne" (or "Doreen"), "Dorothy," or "Dorothea" (or "Dorthea"); for males it is most often short for "Theodore." ' Stan 04:37, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Okay, I took the big plunge and rewrote this article. The last version was spotty and the information was not terribly accurate. I have tried to provide enough references to sustain my facts. Any contributions are welcome. -- Bcooke99 ( talk) 20:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The formatting looks good. Two quibbles, the paragraph starting "The hullform is characterized by flat sides angled about 30 degrees" is only correct when talking about Bank type dories. Nearly every other type of dory is round sided' (or knuckle sided to use a commonly used term in the dory world). That is why I removed the sentence and didn't bother trying to re-incorporate the idea elsewhere. The second issue is the picture. The picture is not a typical dory type. Rather it is a relatively new, 'light pleasure' adaptation designed by Phil Bolger of Gloucester, MA. USA and named "Gloucester Gull" and sometimes referred to as a "Gloucester light dory" (not to be confused with traditional Gloucester type dories). On the other hand, finding non-copyright pictures may be hard to come by and that picture may be the best we can do for now. It at least gives a sense of what a dory is even if it not particularly typical. Overall though, great edit. Thanks. Bcooke99 ( talk) 02:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Using the phraseology "such as the Gazela" is misleading since this ship was not at all typical of ships using Bank dories. Yes. It did have dories on deck at some point (at least until they put engines in) but this is one barquentine among thousands of schooners. Also note that there isn't a single reference to substantiate any information on the Gazela article.
But yes. It did (most likely) fish with 35 dories stored on deck. Bcooke99 ( talk) 15:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking the Bank dory production data would be better placed on the Bank dory article itself. It seems a bit like too much information here. Any thoughts? Bcooke99 ( talk) 15:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The external link to the 'The Dory Page' seems like an odd link to include without comments. Large, half-dories made out of aluminum,some with trawling gear installed is definitely on the outer fringe of the dory world. Bcooke99 ( talk) 15:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I continue to be bothered by the first paragraph since it runs counter to a lot of the information I am finding. "The dory is a small, shallow-draft boat, about five to seven metres (15 to 22 feet) long. It is is a lightweight and versatile boat with high sides, a flat bottom and sharp bows. They are easy to build because of their simple lines." 1. The 5-7 metre reference. This seems a bit restrictive 2. lightweight? That depends on the variant. 3. high sides? again, only one variant really exhibits this trait (banks) 4. Sharp bows. I guess I don't know what this means. Some are straight, others are curved. None that I know of are plumb so maybe this is okay. 5. The 'for centuries' reference. They were really only popular in one small corner of the world for about a hundred years. They appear to have existed long before in various forms all over Europe (inland and coastal) and continue to be built occasionally still today. There are some modern fishing boats that share some traits. Whether they are really 'dories' is questionable IMHO but I have already voiced my opinion about how hard it really is to pin down the true definition of this type. I would like to check the source but there doesn't seem to be one.-- Bcooke99 ( talk) 01:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I removed the unsourced statement "Sailing dories are often referred to by the generic name, sharpies. A class by this name was used in the Olympic Games until the 1960s." because it was unsourced, and is contradicted by this source:
At the bottom of the page the third boat across with the white and green hull, is not any kind of dory at all. It is a carvel construction round bilge hull with no dory features at all.
The first western river dories (as defined on this page) are hard to ID a rower to, except for the Colorado River from Green River, WY, to Yuma, Arizona, through Grand Canyon. I have added that history with citations, and a photo. RRFWTommartin ( talk) 18:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
...is an atypical ship for the Banks, using, here, an atypical name. It does not belong here. An example of hoofbeats should be horses, not zebras. Anmccaff ( talk) 21:40, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
While there is some minor resemblance of Dürer's boat to a proto-dory, there's a good bit more to a punt with some flare and rocker...an almost exact resemblance, actually, and Gardner's accompanying language reflects assertion more than assurance. Anmccaff ( talk) 22:04, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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I think this is obvious; we should not state as a fact that Lowell invented the dory when reputable sources suggest it may have been around 60 years prior. Anmccaff ( talk) 17:11, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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Saving this as Wiktionary fodder: ' Dory is also a nickname. For females, it is usually short for "Doris," "Dorinne" (or "Doreen"), "Dorothy," or "Dorothea" (or "Dorthea"); for males it is most often short for "Theodore." ' Stan 04:37, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Okay, I took the big plunge and rewrote this article. The last version was spotty and the information was not terribly accurate. I have tried to provide enough references to sustain my facts. Any contributions are welcome. -- Bcooke99 ( talk) 20:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The formatting looks good. Two quibbles, the paragraph starting "The hullform is characterized by flat sides angled about 30 degrees" is only correct when talking about Bank type dories. Nearly every other type of dory is round sided' (or knuckle sided to use a commonly used term in the dory world). That is why I removed the sentence and didn't bother trying to re-incorporate the idea elsewhere. The second issue is the picture. The picture is not a typical dory type. Rather it is a relatively new, 'light pleasure' adaptation designed by Phil Bolger of Gloucester, MA. USA and named "Gloucester Gull" and sometimes referred to as a "Gloucester light dory" (not to be confused with traditional Gloucester type dories). On the other hand, finding non-copyright pictures may be hard to come by and that picture may be the best we can do for now. It at least gives a sense of what a dory is even if it not particularly typical. Overall though, great edit. Thanks. Bcooke99 ( talk) 02:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Using the phraseology "such as the Gazela" is misleading since this ship was not at all typical of ships using Bank dories. Yes. It did have dories on deck at some point (at least until they put engines in) but this is one barquentine among thousands of schooners. Also note that there isn't a single reference to substantiate any information on the Gazela article.
But yes. It did (most likely) fish with 35 dories stored on deck. Bcooke99 ( talk) 15:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking the Bank dory production data would be better placed on the Bank dory article itself. It seems a bit like too much information here. Any thoughts? Bcooke99 ( talk) 15:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The external link to the 'The Dory Page' seems like an odd link to include without comments. Large, half-dories made out of aluminum,some with trawling gear installed is definitely on the outer fringe of the dory world. Bcooke99 ( talk) 15:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I continue to be bothered by the first paragraph since it runs counter to a lot of the information I am finding. "The dory is a small, shallow-draft boat, about five to seven metres (15 to 22 feet) long. It is is a lightweight and versatile boat with high sides, a flat bottom and sharp bows. They are easy to build because of their simple lines." 1. The 5-7 metre reference. This seems a bit restrictive 2. lightweight? That depends on the variant. 3. high sides? again, only one variant really exhibits this trait (banks) 4. Sharp bows. I guess I don't know what this means. Some are straight, others are curved. None that I know of are plumb so maybe this is okay. 5. The 'for centuries' reference. They were really only popular in one small corner of the world for about a hundred years. They appear to have existed long before in various forms all over Europe (inland and coastal) and continue to be built occasionally still today. There are some modern fishing boats that share some traits. Whether they are really 'dories' is questionable IMHO but I have already voiced my opinion about how hard it really is to pin down the true definition of this type. I would like to check the source but there doesn't seem to be one.-- Bcooke99 ( talk) 01:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I removed the unsourced statement "Sailing dories are often referred to by the generic name, sharpies. A class by this name was used in the Olympic Games until the 1960s." because it was unsourced, and is contradicted by this source:
At the bottom of the page the third boat across with the white and green hull, is not any kind of dory at all. It is a carvel construction round bilge hull with no dory features at all.
The first western river dories (as defined on this page) are hard to ID a rower to, except for the Colorado River from Green River, WY, to Yuma, Arizona, through Grand Canyon. I have added that history with citations, and a photo. RRFWTommartin ( talk) 18:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
...is an atypical ship for the Banks, using, here, an atypical name. It does not belong here. An example of hoofbeats should be horses, not zebras. Anmccaff ( talk) 21:40, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
While there is some minor resemblance of Dürer's boat to a proto-dory, there's a good bit more to a punt with some flare and rocker...an almost exact resemblance, actually, and Gardner's accompanying language reflects assertion more than assurance. Anmccaff ( talk) 22:04, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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I think this is obvious; we should not state as a fact that Lowell invented the dory when reputable sources suggest it may have been around 60 years prior. Anmccaff ( talk) 17:11, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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