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Hi,
The ABC have the following national contact information (for Australia):
Mail: PO Box 9994 (in all capital cities) Phone: 13 9994
It took me until my mid-twenties to recognise the significance of those numbers.
It is a laconic tribute to a great australian, in an australian style.
It may be worth a mention in your great article. Sorry that I can not provide references with the history of the creation of these contact details. I am sure that the ABC (abc.net.au) will provide ample information if requested.
Regards, Hugo Connery (hmc at env.dtu.dk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.32.179 ( talk) 13:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Don Bradman/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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plange
00:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
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Last edited at 15:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC). Substituted at 20:23, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Bradman's last cricket match was for the Prime Minister's XI against the [[Marylebone Cricket Club|MCC] on the 6th February 1963, when he opened the Bradman Pavilion at the Manuka Oval in Canberra and 10,000 attended the match. Bradman was mistakenly bowled for 4 by Brian Statham as the MCC wanted him to bat against his old foe Alec Bedser and get a few runs, but "the little man, after on brief look back at his broken wicket, walked quickly away, the step firm, the head erect, but the shoulders, one thought, now slightly stooped. He had made one scoring stroke, for four. The crowd watched him go and signed. How much they wanted just a half-hour, at least, of him - as the Englishmen had." [1]When he reached the pavillion to the commiserations of the Prime Minister Robert Menzies and the Duke of Norfolk he told them "It wouldn't happen in a thousand years. Anyway that's my final appearance at the wicket". [2] The batsman with him at the crease was the poltician Don Chipp. Philipjelley ( talk) 13:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
References
Is it worth mentioning that whilst 9 test match class players died in WW2, Bradman did not even serve as an army instructor? His cowardice was yet again on show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.158.232.215 ( talk) 16:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
I think that there are some mistakes in the paragraph Later years and legacy: "The most significant of these legacy projects was a museum, opened in 1987 at the Bradman Oval in Bowral.[161] This organisation was reformed in 1993 as a non-profit charitable Trust, called the Bradman Foundation.[162]" seems to be false:
I somebody have more precise sources, I think it would be useful to correct (I could do it but I prefer that somebody checks that).
OrangeKnight ( talk) 08:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The article as originally written was correct: the Bradman Museum Trust had its genesis in 1985 and was formally constituted in 1987. The Bradman Pavilion, the first stage of the project, was opened in October 1989. Initially, Bradman wanted nothing to do with the organisation because of his concerns about privacy, but later consented to sign over the intellectual property rights to his name and this caused the BMT to reorganise itself as the Bradman Foundation in 1993. You have confused the sequence of events: the Museum Trust was the forerunner to the Foundation; the pavilion was merely the first stage of the project. I have reverted to the original version, using new references.
59.101.227.1 ( talk) 10:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
When discussing averages and comparisons, Mike hussey has been left out completely. As he nwo has the 2nd best average of all batsmen to play over 20 Innings I feel he should be included—Preceding
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Allenrudd (
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If averages exclude current players then neither Tendulkar, Sehwag nor Kallis should appear in the comparison. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.146.215 ( talk) 11:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't know what others think, but having read all of the FA and GA articles about cricket on WP, in my view this one is, like its subject, out on its own. It really is very good and those who deserve the credit know who they are. Well done. --- BlackJack | talk page 13:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm racking my brains and have checked in various places, but I believe the only other Aussie sportsman who was ever knighted for services to sport was Jack Brabham (1978). Hubert Opperman was also knighted, but not for his services to cycling - his citation reads "High Commissioner to Malta" - [1]. If we can confirm this, it would make Bradman the only sporting knight at his appointment in 1949, until 1978 when he became the first of only two. Can anyone confirm this? -- JackofOz ( talk) 05:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
PS. Two other cases are worthy of mention. Sir Garfield Sobers is now a dual Australian-Barbadian citizen, but his 1975 knighthood predated his becoming an Aussie citizen, which happened in 1980 - [2], [3]. And I suppose I should mention Sir George "Gubby" Allen, who was born in Australia, but moved to the UK at a young age and went on to captain the England cricket team. He's a borderline (no relation to bodyline) Aussie at best. -- JackofOz ( talk) 05:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I know this is a long article already, but with Bradman's supremely giant status in the game, first as a player, and secondly as an administrator. There are actually articles about there that are FA with 30% more prose. I think it's needed to provide more information on the following things at least.
There are probably more. I haven't read up on a Bradman biography, but from the Haigh and Frith book about cricket politics, there is a lot more that could be said. YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 06:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the opening paragrapgh that mentions him as the greatest batsman of all time needs to be removed. Sachin Tendulkar is considered by many as the greatest. Cricket was completely different to what it is now. Tendulkar has had to face far more teams and professional players who know how to play cricket than Bradman did well over 70 years ago. The game is a lot harder now and the view that Bradman is the greatest batsman of all time is heavily disputed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.220.42 ( talk) 18:14, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
I have added some links to the 1946-47 Ashes series articles, namely;
1) "With the English team due to arrive for the Ashes series, the media and the public were anxious to know if Bradman would lead Australia." to "With the English team due to arrive for the 1946–47 Ashes series, the media and the public were anxious to know if Bradman would lead Australia."
2) "Controversy emerged as early as the first day of the series" to "Controversy emerged on the first day of the First Test at Brisbane"
3) "An appeal for a catch was denied in the umpire's contentious ruling that it was a bump ball." to "An appeal for a catch was denied in the umpire's contentious ruling that it was a bump ball."
Regards, Philipjelley ( talk) 16:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
CRICKET may not rate a mention in football-crazed Italy, but it does have a profound link to the sport's grandest champion. Sir Donald Bradman had Italian blood, with his great-grandfather Emmanuel Danero (aka Neich) being one of the first Italians to migrate to Australia in 1826.
The revelation of Sir Don's Italian ancestry, one that even the Don Bradman Museum was unaware of, has been documented in Lina Moffitt's book on the quirky life of Danero.
220.101.150.152 ( talk) 19:56, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
So what? The rest of his ancestry was English. Why isn't that mentioned?
http://www.wargs.com/other/bradman.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.13.142 ( talk) 21:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
HMS Bradman was named after the Don in 1936. This is a very significant legacy (even though the ship was sunk in 1940) and seems very early. I added a sentence, but it was reverted by User:Jenks24, who - quite rightly - noted that it didn't flow well. There is a section on later years and legacy, but this is a legacy from the height of his playing career. So - my question is, where does it fit, if anywhere? St Anselm ( talk) 20:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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Archive 1 | ← | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 |
Hi,
The ABC have the following national contact information (for Australia):
Mail: PO Box 9994 (in all capital cities) Phone: 13 9994
It took me until my mid-twenties to recognise the significance of those numbers.
It is a laconic tribute to a great australian, in an australian style.
It may be worth a mention in your great article. Sorry that I can not provide references with the history of the creation of these contact details. I am sure that the ABC (abc.net.au) will provide ample information if requested.
Regards, Hugo Connery (hmc at env.dtu.dk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.32.179 ( talk) 13:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Don Bradman/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
needs citations
plange
00:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
|
Last edited at 15:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC). Substituted at 20:23, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Bradman's last cricket match was for the Prime Minister's XI against the [[Marylebone Cricket Club|MCC] on the 6th February 1963, when he opened the Bradman Pavilion at the Manuka Oval in Canberra and 10,000 attended the match. Bradman was mistakenly bowled for 4 by Brian Statham as the MCC wanted him to bat against his old foe Alec Bedser and get a few runs, but "the little man, after on brief look back at his broken wicket, walked quickly away, the step firm, the head erect, but the shoulders, one thought, now slightly stooped. He had made one scoring stroke, for four. The crowd watched him go and signed. How much they wanted just a half-hour, at least, of him - as the Englishmen had." [1]When he reached the pavillion to the commiserations of the Prime Minister Robert Menzies and the Duke of Norfolk he told them "It wouldn't happen in a thousand years. Anyway that's my final appearance at the wicket". [2] The batsman with him at the crease was the poltician Don Chipp. Philipjelley ( talk) 13:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
References
Is it worth mentioning that whilst 9 test match class players died in WW2, Bradman did not even serve as an army instructor? His cowardice was yet again on show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.158.232.215 ( talk) 16:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
I think that there are some mistakes in the paragraph Later years and legacy: "The most significant of these legacy projects was a museum, opened in 1987 at the Bradman Oval in Bowral.[161] This organisation was reformed in 1993 as a non-profit charitable Trust, called the Bradman Foundation.[162]" seems to be false:
I somebody have more precise sources, I think it would be useful to correct (I could do it but I prefer that somebody checks that).
OrangeKnight ( talk) 08:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The article as originally written was correct: the Bradman Museum Trust had its genesis in 1985 and was formally constituted in 1987. The Bradman Pavilion, the first stage of the project, was opened in October 1989. Initially, Bradman wanted nothing to do with the organisation because of his concerns about privacy, but later consented to sign over the intellectual property rights to his name and this caused the BMT to reorganise itself as the Bradman Foundation in 1993. You have confused the sequence of events: the Museum Trust was the forerunner to the Foundation; the pavilion was merely the first stage of the project. I have reverted to the original version, using new references.
59.101.227.1 ( talk) 10:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
When discussing averages and comparisons, Mike hussey has been left out completely. As he nwo has the 2nd best average of all batsmen to play over 20 Innings I feel he should be included—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Allenrudd (
talk •
contribs)
If averages exclude current players then neither Tendulkar, Sehwag nor Kallis should appear in the comparison. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.146.215 ( talk) 11:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't know what others think, but having read all of the FA and GA articles about cricket on WP, in my view this one is, like its subject, out on its own. It really is very good and those who deserve the credit know who they are. Well done. --- BlackJack | talk page 13:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm racking my brains and have checked in various places, but I believe the only other Aussie sportsman who was ever knighted for services to sport was Jack Brabham (1978). Hubert Opperman was also knighted, but not for his services to cycling - his citation reads "High Commissioner to Malta" - [1]. If we can confirm this, it would make Bradman the only sporting knight at his appointment in 1949, until 1978 when he became the first of only two. Can anyone confirm this? -- JackofOz ( talk) 05:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
PS. Two other cases are worthy of mention. Sir Garfield Sobers is now a dual Australian-Barbadian citizen, but his 1975 knighthood predated his becoming an Aussie citizen, which happened in 1980 - [2], [3]. And I suppose I should mention Sir George "Gubby" Allen, who was born in Australia, but moved to the UK at a young age and went on to captain the England cricket team. He's a borderline (no relation to bodyline) Aussie at best. -- JackofOz ( talk) 05:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I know this is a long article already, but with Bradman's supremely giant status in the game, first as a player, and secondly as an administrator. There are actually articles about there that are FA with 30% more prose. I think it's needed to provide more information on the following things at least.
There are probably more. I haven't read up on a Bradman biography, but from the Haigh and Frith book about cricket politics, there is a lot more that could be said. YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 06:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the opening paragrapgh that mentions him as the greatest batsman of all time needs to be removed. Sachin Tendulkar is considered by many as the greatest. Cricket was completely different to what it is now. Tendulkar has had to face far more teams and professional players who know how to play cricket than Bradman did well over 70 years ago. The game is a lot harder now and the view that Bradman is the greatest batsman of all time is heavily disputed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.220.42 ( talk) 18:14, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
I have added some links to the 1946-47 Ashes series articles, namely;
1) "With the English team due to arrive for the Ashes series, the media and the public were anxious to know if Bradman would lead Australia." to "With the English team due to arrive for the 1946–47 Ashes series, the media and the public were anxious to know if Bradman would lead Australia."
2) "Controversy emerged as early as the first day of the series" to "Controversy emerged on the first day of the First Test at Brisbane"
3) "An appeal for a catch was denied in the umpire's contentious ruling that it was a bump ball." to "An appeal for a catch was denied in the umpire's contentious ruling that it was a bump ball."
Regards, Philipjelley ( talk) 16:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
CRICKET may not rate a mention in football-crazed Italy, but it does have a profound link to the sport's grandest champion. Sir Donald Bradman had Italian blood, with his great-grandfather Emmanuel Danero (aka Neich) being one of the first Italians to migrate to Australia in 1826.
The revelation of Sir Don's Italian ancestry, one that even the Don Bradman Museum was unaware of, has been documented in Lina Moffitt's book on the quirky life of Danero.
220.101.150.152 ( talk) 19:56, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
So what? The rest of his ancestry was English. Why isn't that mentioned?
http://www.wargs.com/other/bradman.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.13.142 ( talk) 21:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
HMS Bradman was named after the Don in 1936. This is a very significant legacy (even though the ship was sunk in 1940) and seems very early. I added a sentence, but it was reverted by User:Jenks24, who - quite rightly - noted that it didn't flow well. There is a section on later years and legacy, but this is a legacy from the height of his playing career. So - my question is, where does it fit, if anywhere? St Anselm ( talk) 20:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)