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I have changed the Wikimedia:Wikiproject Korea article quality from C to B, as this article has as many as 14 verifiable sources in the 'note' section and 2 academic articles articles in the 'further reading' section, without any major cleanup issues. The article obviously at least meets the qualifications for B quality. Hkwon ( talk) 22:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
The article at least meets the qualifications for a B-classed article in terms of references, structure, and verifiability. Hkwon ( talk) 23:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
While the article clearly acknowledges that there is a controversy, it does not adequately address both sides of the argument. There is little information about:
I undid this revision because of the following reasons: (1) Misuse of block quotation: Violation of Wikipedia:MOSQUOTE. The blocked part is not even quotation. (2) Misuse of capitalization: Violation of MOS:CAPS. "All capitals should not be used for emphasis." (3) False citation: The cited page in Hopkins, Bourdain, & Freeman clearly states that in Korea it was "technically illegal to sell cooked dog meats" (p.23, 3rd paragraph, 28th line). No content in this source supports claims on legality of dog meat in this revision. Hkwon ( talk)
The reference to the Helsinki Times is dead. Who better to discuss Korean foods than the Finns? Just kidding. Also, is about.com an acceptable reference?
Last, this article's content is also present in Dog Meat.
Koreans in my experience (I'm an American expat in Korea) are pretty sensitive about this topic, this is a negative stereotype that lots of people hold; I think a honest assessment of this topic is in order. Vedek Wren ( talk) 12:17, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
User: Sennen goroshi deleted this information without any discussions on the talk page. This is the edit summary the user left: This article is about South Korea, not about China. Also, source does not seem neutral or reliable.
I am reverting the deletion for the following reasons:
1) The deleted information is not about dog meat consumption in China, but about the controversy stemming from Bardot Foundation's different responses to dog meat consumption in South Korea and in China.
2) The source, OhmyNews, is a nationwide daily news site in South Korea with 19 million page views a day as of 2002. It was considered one of top 5 news sites in the world by The Guardian in 2004 and the 6th most influential news medium (online or offline) in South Korea in a 2004 survey. How can the source "does not seem neutral or reliable"? I wonder if the commentor even knows anything about Ohmynews. Hkwon ( talk) 21:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand why Bridget Bardot's opinion of this situation is notable. She's a has-been "actress" from long ago. How does that qualify her to comment on this topic? If we want to describe the pro-dog meat position, why not just do so directly instead of using her opinion to introduce it? Chrisrus ( talk) 02:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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I apolgize but there are more than 2 editors involved here thus i am unable to give a third opinion.— Weaponbb7 ( talk) 13:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC) |
This is absolutely correct and well-cited, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it's a bit vague because it's the typical tip-toeing around the more specific truth about this cultural belief in Korea. To be blunt, it's thought to be a male aphrodisiac. In fact, restaurants in Korea that specialize in dog meat can be pretty shocking and confusing places for foreigners to pass by because they tend to look like sex-shops for women, decorated with, ahem, how shall I put it, phallic symbols. A google search of "aphrodisiac" +"dog meat" +Korean" results in thousands of hits, indicating that this might not be a hard fact to cite. If, that is, we really want to "go there". Do you all prefer the current wording, or should be come out and say this somehow? (By the way, I didn't go in to these restaurants, don't get me wrong; I personally could never eat a dog.) Chrisrus ( talk) 05:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I just tried to access references and this article is very frustrating. In section "Notes" Numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,9,11,12,13,14, and 17 are no good. In the section "References" what are they for? In the section "Further Reading" there's some interesting stuff that should be incorporated into the article and referenced. I'm placing this here as a note to myself as much as anything. osm20 Oldsingerman20 ( talk) 01:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Also, I'm an old man who is unschooled in computer technology. Could someone pleas tell me why so much of the article and references have little boxes where letters should be??? osm20 Oldsingerman20 ( talk) 20:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
This page should not be speedily deleted because... it should be fixed instead. Chrisrus ( talk) 00:56, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
"Text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving."(emphasis added)
Regrettably, this article can be read as legitimizing unspeakably cruel and barbaric practices that no civilized society should tolerate. The dog meat trade in South Korea is unregulated, unsanitary, and an abject horror for the millions of dogs ensnared in its grip. Wikipedia is not a platform for promoting industry propaganda or for whitewashing unethical and inhumane practices in the name of cultural sensitivity. Nor is any argument in favor of the South Korean dog meat trade remotely equivalent to the opposing viewpoint, shared by civilized societies worldwide, that torturing and brutally slaughtering dogs for their meat is an abomination. The unvarnished, indisputable (and easily verifiable -- from any number of respectable news outlets and international animal welfare society organizations) truth about this industry must be discussed here if there is to be a page devoted to this subject at all. At the very least, equal discussion of what actually occurs on dog meat "farms" and markets in South Korea is warranted. -- Rucamlaw ( talk) 08:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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I opened this talk page discussion to discuss possible controversies pertaining to recent edits in both sections listed. Please discuss here so that we can come to consensus. BlackRanger88 ( talk) 06:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Yulin Festival을 중지하십시오. 개와 고양이를 고문하지 말고 개와 고양이를 먹지 마라. 개와 고양이는 우리의 자녀, 형제, 자매, 아버지와 어머니입니다. 그들이 고통을 당하면 우리는 고통을 겪을 것입니다. 우리와이 동물들을 도와주세요. 모든 생물은 존중받을 가치가 있습니다. 그럴 수 있니? 이것은 사랑을위한 것입니다. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.162.98.111 ( talk) 16:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC) Stop al Festival di Yulin. Non torturare cani e gatti e non mangiare cani e gatti. Cani e gatti sono i nostri figli, fratelli, sorelle, padri e madri. Se soffriranno, soffriremo. Aiuta questi animali. Ogni creatura merita rispetto. Puoi farlo? Questo è per amore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.162.98.111 ( talk) 16:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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I have changed the Wikimedia:Wikiproject Korea article quality from C to B, as this article has as many as 14 verifiable sources in the 'note' section and 2 academic articles articles in the 'further reading' section, without any major cleanup issues. The article obviously at least meets the qualifications for B quality. Hkwon ( talk) 22:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
The article at least meets the qualifications for a B-classed article in terms of references, structure, and verifiability. Hkwon ( talk) 23:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
While the article clearly acknowledges that there is a controversy, it does not adequately address both sides of the argument. There is little information about:
I undid this revision because of the following reasons: (1) Misuse of block quotation: Violation of Wikipedia:MOSQUOTE. The blocked part is not even quotation. (2) Misuse of capitalization: Violation of MOS:CAPS. "All capitals should not be used for emphasis." (3) False citation: The cited page in Hopkins, Bourdain, & Freeman clearly states that in Korea it was "technically illegal to sell cooked dog meats" (p.23, 3rd paragraph, 28th line). No content in this source supports claims on legality of dog meat in this revision. Hkwon ( talk)
The reference to the Helsinki Times is dead. Who better to discuss Korean foods than the Finns? Just kidding. Also, is about.com an acceptable reference?
Last, this article's content is also present in Dog Meat.
Koreans in my experience (I'm an American expat in Korea) are pretty sensitive about this topic, this is a negative stereotype that lots of people hold; I think a honest assessment of this topic is in order. Vedek Wren ( talk) 12:17, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
User: Sennen goroshi deleted this information without any discussions on the talk page. This is the edit summary the user left: This article is about South Korea, not about China. Also, source does not seem neutral or reliable.
I am reverting the deletion for the following reasons:
1) The deleted information is not about dog meat consumption in China, but about the controversy stemming from Bardot Foundation's different responses to dog meat consumption in South Korea and in China.
2) The source, OhmyNews, is a nationwide daily news site in South Korea with 19 million page views a day as of 2002. It was considered one of top 5 news sites in the world by The Guardian in 2004 and the 6th most influential news medium (online or offline) in South Korea in a 2004 survey. How can the source "does not seem neutral or reliable"? I wonder if the commentor even knows anything about Ohmynews. Hkwon ( talk) 21:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand why Bridget Bardot's opinion of this situation is notable. She's a has-been "actress" from long ago. How does that qualify her to comment on this topic? If we want to describe the pro-dog meat position, why not just do so directly instead of using her opinion to introduce it? Chrisrus ( talk) 02:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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I apolgize but there are more than 2 editors involved here thus i am unable to give a third opinion.— Weaponbb7 ( talk) 13:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC) |
This is absolutely correct and well-cited, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying it's a bit vague because it's the typical tip-toeing around the more specific truth about this cultural belief in Korea. To be blunt, it's thought to be a male aphrodisiac. In fact, restaurants in Korea that specialize in dog meat can be pretty shocking and confusing places for foreigners to pass by because they tend to look like sex-shops for women, decorated with, ahem, how shall I put it, phallic symbols. A google search of "aphrodisiac" +"dog meat" +Korean" results in thousands of hits, indicating that this might not be a hard fact to cite. If, that is, we really want to "go there". Do you all prefer the current wording, or should be come out and say this somehow? (By the way, I didn't go in to these restaurants, don't get me wrong; I personally could never eat a dog.) Chrisrus ( talk) 05:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I just tried to access references and this article is very frustrating. In section "Notes" Numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,9,11,12,13,14, and 17 are no good. In the section "References" what are they for? In the section "Further Reading" there's some interesting stuff that should be incorporated into the article and referenced. I'm placing this here as a note to myself as much as anything. osm20 Oldsingerman20 ( talk) 01:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Also, I'm an old man who is unschooled in computer technology. Could someone pleas tell me why so much of the article and references have little boxes where letters should be??? osm20 Oldsingerman20 ( talk) 20:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
This page should not be speedily deleted because... it should be fixed instead. Chrisrus ( talk) 00:56, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
"Text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving."(emphasis added)
Regrettably, this article can be read as legitimizing unspeakably cruel and barbaric practices that no civilized society should tolerate. The dog meat trade in South Korea is unregulated, unsanitary, and an abject horror for the millions of dogs ensnared in its grip. Wikipedia is not a platform for promoting industry propaganda or for whitewashing unethical and inhumane practices in the name of cultural sensitivity. Nor is any argument in favor of the South Korean dog meat trade remotely equivalent to the opposing viewpoint, shared by civilized societies worldwide, that torturing and brutally slaughtering dogs for their meat is an abomination. The unvarnished, indisputable (and easily verifiable -- from any number of respectable news outlets and international animal welfare society organizations) truth about this industry must be discussed here if there is to be a page devoted to this subject at all. At the very least, equal discussion of what actually occurs on dog meat "farms" and markets in South Korea is warranted. -- Rucamlaw ( talk) 08:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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I opened this talk page discussion to discuss possible controversies pertaining to recent edits in both sections listed. Please discuss here so that we can come to consensus. BlackRanger88 ( talk) 06:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Yulin Festival을 중지하십시오. 개와 고양이를 고문하지 말고 개와 고양이를 먹지 마라. 개와 고양이는 우리의 자녀, 형제, 자매, 아버지와 어머니입니다. 그들이 고통을 당하면 우리는 고통을 겪을 것입니다. 우리와이 동물들을 도와주세요. 모든 생물은 존중받을 가치가 있습니다. 그럴 수 있니? 이것은 사랑을위한 것입니다. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.162.98.111 ( talk) 16:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC) Stop al Festival di Yulin. Non torturare cani e gatti e non mangiare cani e gatti. Cani e gatti sono i nostri figli, fratelli, sorelle, padri e madri. Se soffriranno, soffriremo. Aiuta questi animali. Ogni creatura merita rispetto. Puoi farlo? Questo è per amore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.162.98.111 ( talk) 16:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)