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I changed the image at the top of the article. On 13 Feb 2023, the lead image was changed from McGill graduates wearing doctoral robes to an image of a 1973 PhD diploma from the University at Buffalo. The imagine seemed entirely arbitrary, as U.Buffalo was not the first university to offer a PhD, nor was U.Buffalo mentioned anywhere in the article. The year 1973 is also not noted as an important year in the development of the PhD. The individual listed on the 1973 degree is an active wikipedia editor, so I suspect whomever made the change did so as a thoughtful mark of respect. A better image would be a scan of a PhD diploma from an early 19th century German university, but being unable to find one I instead used an 1861 Yale Diploma, as it was the first university in North America to award PhDs. An image of a ~1800 diploma from Berlin or Bonn would be even better, if a user can find one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:3D00:1EF:8CA3:F342:D8E4:A8F8 ( talk) 23:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus to keep the full name for consistency with similar articles and that PhD is not a universal abbreviation of the term. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph ( talk) 14:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Doctor of Philosophy → PhD – Per WP:COMMONNAME the abreviated form without dots is the most common in ngrams, more than twice as common as "Ph.D." and much more common than the full name, which doesn't seem to be very widely used in comparison ( [1]). The proposed term is also more common in google scholar, with 18k results since 2010 ( [2]), compared to less than 17k for "Ph.D." ( [3]) and less than 8k for "Doctor of Philosophy" ( [4]). Vpab15 ( talk) 16:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 12:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Acronyms should be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject. This is exactly the case, so per ACRONYMTITLE, the article should be moved. Vpab15 ( talk) 09:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
the fact that "Doctor of Philosophy" manages to show up even half as often despite (presumably) only appearing in prose indicates that it is the WP:COMMONNAME. I am not sure I agree with that logic. The fact that "Doctor of Philosophy" appears half as often shows it is used half as often as "PhD". How can it possibly show that it is the common name? I am sorry but that is a ridiculous suggestion. Vpab15 ( talk) 09:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Consistency is only one of several title considerations, and it generally falls below several other considerations in the hierarchy of title determination.The proposed title is clearly more recognisable, natural (the most widely used in academic sources and the only one used in non-academic ones) and concise. It is as precise also. Overall, the proposed title better meets WP:AT. Vpab15 ( talk) 09:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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The contents of the Doctor Philosophiae (Danish and Norwegian degree) page were merged into Doctor of Philosophy. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
The contents of the PhD confirmation page were merged into Doctor of Philosophy on 13 June 2016. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history. |
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On 24 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to PhD. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Several of the countries on the 'PhD Graduates in the workforce' graph (x-axis) are incorrect.
e.g. UK and US are indistinguishable, New Zealand is just 'New'. One label states 'Slovak'.
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PhD has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
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I changed the image at the top of the article. On 13 Feb 2023, the lead image was changed from McGill graduates wearing doctoral robes to an image of a 1973 PhD diploma from the University at Buffalo. The imagine seemed entirely arbitrary, as U.Buffalo was not the first university to offer a PhD, nor was U.Buffalo mentioned anywhere in the article. The year 1973 is also not noted as an important year in the development of the PhD. The individual listed on the 1973 degree is an active wikipedia editor, so I suspect whomever made the change did so as a thoughtful mark of respect. A better image would be a scan of a PhD diploma from an early 19th century German university, but being unable to find one I instead used an 1861 Yale Diploma, as it was the first university in North America to award PhDs. An image of a ~1800 diploma from Berlin or Bonn would be even better, if a user can find one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:3D00:1EF:8CA3:F342:D8E4:A8F8 ( talk) 23:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 24 June 2024. The result of the move review was endorsed. |
The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus to keep the full name for consistency with similar articles and that PhD is not a universal abbreviation of the term. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph ( talk) 14:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Doctor of Philosophy → PhD – Per WP:COMMONNAME the abreviated form without dots is the most common in ngrams, more than twice as common as "Ph.D." and much more common than the full name, which doesn't seem to be very widely used in comparison ( [1]). The proposed term is also more common in google scholar, with 18k results since 2010 ( [2]), compared to less than 17k for "Ph.D." ( [3]) and less than 8k for "Doctor of Philosophy" ( [4]). Vpab15 ( talk) 16:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 12:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Acronyms should be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject. This is exactly the case, so per ACRONYMTITLE, the article should be moved. Vpab15 ( talk) 09:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
the fact that "Doctor of Philosophy" manages to show up even half as often despite (presumably) only appearing in prose indicates that it is the WP:COMMONNAME. I am not sure I agree with that logic. The fact that "Doctor of Philosophy" appears half as often shows it is used half as often as "PhD". How can it possibly show that it is the common name? I am sorry but that is a ridiculous suggestion. Vpab15 ( talk) 09:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Consistency is only one of several title considerations, and it generally falls below several other considerations in the hierarchy of title determination.The proposed title is clearly more recognisable, natural (the most widely used in academic sources and the only one used in non-academic ones) and concise. It is as precise also. Overall, the proposed title better meets WP:AT. Vpab15 ( talk) 09:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)