Just started Gd8man ( talk) 18:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
There is a need to have the right information... Please help us get it right. gd8man 22:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)gd8man 22:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
there is a wealth of information out there about the history of dock jumping, which dates back to around 1938, just have to have people add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtallen2489 ( talk • contribs) 22:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Trying to add a link to the K9 Athletes Blog and the Purina Incredible Dog Challenge, but it's not working. Both sites are relevant to the sport. Please help. Jillianmk ( talk) 15:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
For one, I think links to blogs are not allowed, two, IDC is an Invitation only. Plus do a search on IDC site for "Dock Jumping" nothing there. This is about Dock Jumping.gd8man 17:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gd8man ( talk •gd8man 18:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Citing sources for information, and Template:Citation or Template:Cite web for an easier way to add references, and also WP:Verifiability (All material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable, published source). HTH -- Hafwyn ( talk) 13:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I messed up the wikilink in my edit summary. The correct link to the guideline on units of measurement conversions is WP:MOS#Conversions. Coaster1983 ( talk) 04:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I should add all the different divisions??
Abbreviation for Maryland is MD, not ML. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.73.32 ( talk) 02:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree that the current lead image isn't fantastic. I am in the process of uploading a number of dock jumping images to Wikimedia Commons. See the dock jumping category. I would appreciate suggestions on a better image to have in the lead. -- Simple Bob ( talk) 08:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, so I like the new lead image, but I fail to see why the rest of the images should be 300 pixels. WP:IMGSIZE clearly states In general, do not define the size of an image unless there is a good reason to do so - so what is your reason? -- Simple Bob ( talk) 17:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
All the records listed are or were world records gd8man ( talk) 09:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
A world record is usually the best global performance ever recorded in a specific skill or sport"... gd8man ( talk) 08:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Again the record he added was a purina record, the one and only organization that uses that type of measurement. What happened to the discussion? I think it is very clear that Mr. Bob is trying to teach me a lesson. gd8man ( talk) 00:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
This is why a discussion is needed. UAD ran the event as a qualifier for the IDC. They used the IDC rules and measurement (from the nose). Do you need additional links?..... gd8man ( talk) 21:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. Bob please stop adding without discussion on the talk page. Purnia or the IDC measure from the nose. If you have read the article Dock Jumping measures at the base of the tail, which is very different, IDC also not a fair event because of the way they eye ball measure. So why add Purina to the article?.... gd8man ( talk) 09:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
All I am asking for the (10) tenth time is please discuss changes on the talk page. But instead you would rather me have a wikiholiday instead of taking more of your time to respond. Oh before I forget nice job on the lists.... gd8man ( talk) 22:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
again you MR. BOB changed the article without discussion.Oh... that was my (2) seconded point....... gd8man ( talk) 23:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been unsucessful in finding a reliable third party source. to quote for the history. But also as far as the IDC being included in dock jumping, they call it "Dock Diving", it is an invation only event (not open to the public). They measure differently,they should have their own classifaction..... gd8man ( talk) 00:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
You have a valid point. Isn't it confusing to a viewer to see a very different record? A record that has no way to backup that claim? As in a digital recording. To understand my point; take a large dog (5 feet long) and a small dog (2 feet long),with everything the same except the type of measurement (nose or tail) jumping the same distant for round numbers,they jump 10 feet.(measured from base of tail).Then take that same jump... measure from the nose..small dog (2 feet long) is measured at 12 feet...the large dog (5 feet long) is measured at 15 feet and you say there is only a small difference? Does that make sense? When they measure the long jump at track meets it is measured at the closest to the mark (jumping point) same as Dock Jumping. But Dock Diving is measured from the nose....not the same. gd8man ( talk) 01:38, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Why include it in the article? gd8man ( talk) 04:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
But before you do please prove they are and not just a one time event. gd8man ( talk) 20:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been involved in the sport for over 7 years and is the first I have heard of them.If you would have included their web site as a reference this could have been avoided.... gd8man ( talk) 21:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Why not include the other organizations that Mr. Bob deleted, also can you produce a event list?... gd8man ( talk) 04:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Here I will do the work for you... http://www.dockdogs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=460&Itemid=273 You didn't have a problem with making many many edits with no discussion...... gd8man ( talk) 20:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
You are saying it is notable? There were 2 events 3 years ago, they don't have events under that name. What about all the other jump groups that have 100's of events are they "notable"? As far as We must presume they do still exist I thought this is about the truth... gd8man ( talk) 07:28, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
here are your sources http://www.advertiser24.co.uk/content/advertiser24/news/story.aspx?brand=NOROnline&category=News&tBrand=NOROnline&tCategory=News&itemid=NOED01%20Aug%202010%2019%3A38%3A18%3A113 http://www.ukgamefair.co.uk/directory/exhibitors-and-attractions http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/411/new-dock-dogs-canine-competition-event-to-be-showcased-at-game-fair/ Now can we exclude it?... gd8man ( talk) 07:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Is simply an alternate name for this sport. Although this is not a RS, it shows how it is actually used in the dog world. This is over 700 mentions of dock diving on dockdogs.com. "dock+diving"+site:splashdogs.com/ This is about 200 mentions on splashdog.com. I don't understand why this could be an issue, and I am adding it to the lead - it's already a redirect. Dougweller ( talk) 09:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
http://media.zibb.com/trademark/dock+diving/30967915
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78919590 gd8man ( talk) 21:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment,OK. This is all I have been asking for is to have discussion...... gd8man ( talk) 21:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
"Dock Diving" is a registered trademark of DockDogs,Inc. and DockDogs USA Here's the link to the US Government trademark search data: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4008:1u1qo9.2.1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.189.129 ( talk) 06:47, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Would this source from Pedigree Pups about Dock Jumping be useful as a citation in the article?
There's also this article that discusses how it was first officially recognized at ESPN's "Great Outdoor Games Big Air" competition in 2000. Silver seren C 20:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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Just started Gd8man ( talk) 18:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
There is a need to have the right information... Please help us get it right. gd8man 22:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)gd8man 22:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
there is a wealth of information out there about the history of dock jumping, which dates back to around 1938, just have to have people add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtallen2489 ( talk • contribs) 22:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Trying to add a link to the K9 Athletes Blog and the Purina Incredible Dog Challenge, but it's not working. Both sites are relevant to the sport. Please help. Jillianmk ( talk) 15:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
For one, I think links to blogs are not allowed, two, IDC is an Invitation only. Plus do a search on IDC site for "Dock Jumping" nothing there. This is about Dock Jumping.gd8man 17:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gd8man ( talk •gd8man 18:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Citing sources for information, and Template:Citation or Template:Cite web for an easier way to add references, and also WP:Verifiability (All material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable, published source). HTH -- Hafwyn ( talk) 13:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I messed up the wikilink in my edit summary. The correct link to the guideline on units of measurement conversions is WP:MOS#Conversions. Coaster1983 ( talk) 04:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I should add all the different divisions??
Abbreviation for Maryland is MD, not ML. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.73.32 ( talk) 02:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree that the current lead image isn't fantastic. I am in the process of uploading a number of dock jumping images to Wikimedia Commons. See the dock jumping category. I would appreciate suggestions on a better image to have in the lead. -- Simple Bob ( talk) 08:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, so I like the new lead image, but I fail to see why the rest of the images should be 300 pixels. WP:IMGSIZE clearly states In general, do not define the size of an image unless there is a good reason to do so - so what is your reason? -- Simple Bob ( talk) 17:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
All the records listed are or were world records gd8man ( talk) 09:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
A world record is usually the best global performance ever recorded in a specific skill or sport"... gd8man ( talk) 08:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Again the record he added was a purina record, the one and only organization that uses that type of measurement. What happened to the discussion? I think it is very clear that Mr. Bob is trying to teach me a lesson. gd8man ( talk) 00:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
This is why a discussion is needed. UAD ran the event as a qualifier for the IDC. They used the IDC rules and measurement (from the nose). Do you need additional links?..... gd8man ( talk) 21:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Mr. Bob please stop adding without discussion on the talk page. Purnia or the IDC measure from the nose. If you have read the article Dock Jumping measures at the base of the tail, which is very different, IDC also not a fair event because of the way they eye ball measure. So why add Purina to the article?.... gd8man ( talk) 09:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
All I am asking for the (10) tenth time is please discuss changes on the talk page. But instead you would rather me have a wikiholiday instead of taking more of your time to respond. Oh before I forget nice job on the lists.... gd8man ( talk) 22:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
again you MR. BOB changed the article without discussion.Oh... that was my (2) seconded point....... gd8man ( talk) 23:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been unsucessful in finding a reliable third party source. to quote for the history. But also as far as the IDC being included in dock jumping, they call it "Dock Diving", it is an invation only event (not open to the public). They measure differently,they should have their own classifaction..... gd8man ( talk) 00:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
You have a valid point. Isn't it confusing to a viewer to see a very different record? A record that has no way to backup that claim? As in a digital recording. To understand my point; take a large dog (5 feet long) and a small dog (2 feet long),with everything the same except the type of measurement (nose or tail) jumping the same distant for round numbers,they jump 10 feet.(measured from base of tail).Then take that same jump... measure from the nose..small dog (2 feet long) is measured at 12 feet...the large dog (5 feet long) is measured at 15 feet and you say there is only a small difference? Does that make sense? When they measure the long jump at track meets it is measured at the closest to the mark (jumping point) same as Dock Jumping. But Dock Diving is measured from the nose....not the same. gd8man ( talk) 01:38, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Why include it in the article? gd8man ( talk) 04:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
But before you do please prove they are and not just a one time event. gd8man ( talk) 20:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been involved in the sport for over 7 years and is the first I have heard of them.If you would have included their web site as a reference this could have been avoided.... gd8man ( talk) 21:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Why not include the other organizations that Mr. Bob deleted, also can you produce a event list?... gd8man ( talk) 04:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Here I will do the work for you... http://www.dockdogs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=460&Itemid=273 You didn't have a problem with making many many edits with no discussion...... gd8man ( talk) 20:58, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
You are saying it is notable? There were 2 events 3 years ago, they don't have events under that name. What about all the other jump groups that have 100's of events are they "notable"? As far as We must presume they do still exist I thought this is about the truth... gd8man ( talk) 07:28, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
here are your sources http://www.advertiser24.co.uk/content/advertiser24/news/story.aspx?brand=NOROnline&category=News&tBrand=NOROnline&tCategory=News&itemid=NOED01%20Aug%202010%2019%3A38%3A18%3A113 http://www.ukgamefair.co.uk/directory/exhibitors-and-attractions http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/411/new-dock-dogs-canine-competition-event-to-be-showcased-at-game-fair/ Now can we exclude it?... gd8man ( talk) 07:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Is simply an alternate name for this sport. Although this is not a RS, it shows how it is actually used in the dog world. This is over 700 mentions of dock diving on dockdogs.com. "dock+diving"+site:splashdogs.com/ This is about 200 mentions on splashdog.com. I don't understand why this could be an issue, and I am adding it to the lead - it's already a redirect. Dougweller ( talk) 09:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
http://media.zibb.com/trademark/dock+diving/30967915
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78919590 gd8man ( talk) 21:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment,OK. This is all I have been asking for is to have discussion...... gd8man ( talk) 21:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
"Dock Diving" is a registered trademark of DockDogs,Inc. and DockDogs USA Here's the link to the US Government trademark search data: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4008:1u1qo9.2.1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.189.129 ( talk) 06:47, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Would this source from Pedigree Pups about Dock Jumping be useful as a citation in the article?
There's also this article that discusses how it was first officially recognized at ESPN's "Great Outdoor Games Big Air" competition in 2000. Silver seren C 20:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)