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There are two stubs, one called w. pentz, the other diplo. I'd say we should delete the pentz article. I don't really know the wiki policy on pseudonyms to be honest, but I think it makes more sense to use the most commonly used name of an artist, hence Ice T rather than Tracy Marrow... etc. Wathiik 20:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Fixed the image caption (forgot to sign in, so it's logged under my IP). However, it's a pretty worthless caption to begin with; could somebody come up with something better perhaps? Otherwise, I'd say get rid of it entirely.
Studentism 23:12, 15 Feb 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to add this to the remix section, but I don't know when this one came out (maybe 2006!?!) may someone help me with this? Thx in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.191.71.222 ( talk) 21:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
I just added a few obvious ones 58.107.16.49 01:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
What does this have to do with anything: "Diplo is also a Puertorican Comedian Ramón Rivero (May 29, 1909 – August 24, 1956)"? 『 ɠu¹ɖяy 』 ¤ 21:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes by copyright/marketing trademark infringement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.210.29.136 ( talk) 17:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The following section among other things have been recently removed.
“ | Critics have been divided on his early work, with some expressing acclaim for the mixtape, while others expressing relief that M.I.A.'s aesthetic and her debut album didn't have a lot of input from the DJ.
[1] In 2007, Arulpragasam confronted the
public media, specifically music blog
Pitchforkmedia about some journalists' motives behind misinformation regarding Diplo and her work. Pitchforkmedia author Paul Thomson responded by stating Diplo "seemed to think he had a bit to do with both of her records."
[2] Diplo has worked on two tracks on each M.I.A. album. In 2009, he revealed that aside from loaning a baile funk beat to the song "Bucky Done Gun," he lied to people that he produced M.I.A.'s first album "to get them to know who I was."
[3] He described the songs he did not work on on M.I.A.'s third album as being "a turd" in 2010.
[4] Initially he stated that he worked at a studio in Santa Monica rather than at M.I.A.'s home studio on the album, because "her boyfriend really hates me".
[5] Later he stated his distaste for the album stemmed from not "feeling the vibe with some of the new producers."
[6]
Diplo and his friend Low Budget started a DJ collective, Hollertronix. It has been described as a "disparate genres to be smashed into each other for maximum attention-grabbing impact" aesthetic inferior to the "organic, cohesive, whole" aesthetic of acts such as M.I.A. and Bun B, and, to date, M.I.A. is hailed as the "yardstick" by which Diplo and his associates ("Friends of Diplo") are judged. [1] Legendary artists including Bun B, DJ Marlboro and DJ Technics have been described as having "benefitted from the Hollertronix aesthetic but who haven't ever been influenced by it." [1] |
” |
The section that has been blanked, first by the IP vandal User talk:76.79.190.139 and now by the newly formed user User:Davidbhutch has been reinserted. Seeing as these events/occurences are covered in multiple reliable sources and is what makes this person notable, I see no reason for the removal. Lifebonzza ( talk) 12:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
References
My intention wasn't to remove 'valid information', rather correct an error you make AGAIN in your explanation. What makes Diplo relevant is not his relationship to another artist. I believe his accomplishments in the music industry, while including M.I.A., do not begin and end with her. In an effort to remove bias which clearly sheds the two's relationship in a negative light, I have edited the page to include discussion of his relationship with M.I.A., but as it pertains to their work together, and his career following their relationship. Again, the changes aren't intended to distort anything, rather provide a wealth of information pertaining to Diplo which isn't exclusive to his relationship with M.I.A.
I am more than willing to enter a dispute resolution with someone who disagrees.
Also, I am a 'new user', so there are some things about Wikipedia I have yet to learn. If there is a formatting issue, please let me know and I will do my best to rectify. For instance, I don't know how to sign my name... but this is the user Davidbhutch Davidbhutch ( talk) 18:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Here's the changes I made today, with explanations etc... I've changed the language here from saying "He is best known for dating M.I.A., credited with helping expose him in his early career, and later working with Robyn."
It has been changed to say, "He is best known for dating M.I.A., credited with helping expose her in her early career, and later working with many other pop artists like Robyn." This change takes into consideration a timeline of events that is confirmed as 'him discovering her' by articles such as, http://www.timeout.com/london/clubs/features/6665/Diplo-interview.html , http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/6006-diplo/, http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/diplo-the-stylus-interview.htm, http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/14639/81860 Also, the language of this sentence has been changed to reflect the fact that he didn't just go on to work with Robyn, proof of which can be found later in the article.
Next I've made some changes to this section of the text: "Hollertronix has been described as a "disparate genres to be smashed into each other for maximum attention-grabbing impact" aesthetic inferior to the "organic, cohesive, whole" aesthetic of acts such as M.I.A. and Bun B, and, to date, M.I.A. is hailed as the "yardstick" by which Diplo and his associates ("Friends of Diplo") are judged."
To me it seems like the language doesn't really make sense. First of all, someone describe the aesthetic of Hollertronix's work as being inferior to Bun B and M.I.A. That OPINION does not seem valid for inclusion if the piece is to remain unbiased. Also, "To date" does not seem like an accurate way to measure one person's statement from some time ago.
The sentence has been changed to read: "Hollertronix has been described as "disparate genres to be smashed together for maximum attention-grabbing impact" an aesthetic which takes from the "organic, cohesive, whole" aesthetic of acts such as Bun B, Lil Jon, Drama, M.I.A., Bjork, Busta Rhymes and others." With an added citation: http://www.formatmag.com/features/diplo/
While the Yardstick comparison is valid for inclusion, I don't believe it belongs in this portion of the bio. so I've added it further in where it now says: " They worked together after the release and he toured as a DJ on her 2005
Arular Tour. Some have referred to M.I.A. as the "yardstick" by which Diplo and his associates (Friends of Diplo) are judged." Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).
Also I've changed a bit of the text around this portion: "Later he stated his distaste for the album stemmed from not "feeling the vibe with some of the new producers."
I don't believe his having initially stated his reason for working in a studio outside of her home has any relation to him later stating his distaste for the album, at least not relation that can be inferred with logical validity. I've removed the word initially and changed the sentence to begin: "He stated" and then , "Later he mentioned", just for the sake of not saying "He stated" twice in a row. Davidbhutch ( talk) 17:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC) Davidbhutch ( talk) 17:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Just in glancing over this... way to entirely avoid any semblance of 'resolution' I was attempting. I'll be deleting it again in a little while, with a very similar justification. 173.15.122.38 ( talk) 17:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC) My bad I'm on a new computer... DAVIDBHUTCH Singing... Davidbhutch ( talk)
"When they broke up, M.I.A. posted on her blog something to the effect of how much it sucks for your boyfriend to leave you to make songs for Brazilian strippers (someone needs to start keeping her away from the internet when she’s mad), and in the Hirschberg piece it’s revealed that he’s not even allowed in her house anymore, even though they are still making some music together."
The result of the move request was: Move. The case is made that this is the primary use of the name "Diplo"; as noted this move does not affect the article Ramón Rivero. Cúchullain t/ c 15:26, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
– Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 70,000 hits per month clearly dwarfs anything else on the dab page. 82.132.218.89 ( talk) 20:31, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
I just removed a "Controversies" section that has been added as part of the backlash against him due to recent actions. While I understand "the internet" doesn't like Diplo today, he's been a controversial figure in the music scene for years. If somebody wants to create a well cited controversies section that covers the entirety of his career (MIA and Taylor Swift spring to mind) then please include it. However dedicating an entire section of an extremely notable artist's article on an event that will be mostly forgotten in three days is inappropriate. Brandon ( talk) 10:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC) 2-11 never 4get — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.142.211 ( talk) 02:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
"an event that will be mostly forgotten in three days" is the author's unfounded personal opinion. If a user wants to ad those other controversies, he can do it himself, not eliminate the category all together, especially for a public figure that he acknowledges that has been in many thorough his entire public career.
Hi, I'm missing a note about Major Lazer (TV series) which seems to be created by Diplo. (Maybe in Additional Work?) — Tauriel-1 ( ☎) 12:01, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
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There are two stubs, one called w. pentz, the other diplo. I'd say we should delete the pentz article. I don't really know the wiki policy on pseudonyms to be honest, but I think it makes more sense to use the most commonly used name of an artist, hence Ice T rather than Tracy Marrow... etc. Wathiik 20:40, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Fixed the image caption (forgot to sign in, so it's logged under my IP). However, it's a pretty worthless caption to begin with; could somebody come up with something better perhaps? Otherwise, I'd say get rid of it entirely.
Studentism 23:12, 15 Feb 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to add this to the remix section, but I don't know when this one came out (maybe 2006!?!) may someone help me with this? Thx in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.191.71.222 ( talk) 21:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
I just added a few obvious ones 58.107.16.49 01:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
What does this have to do with anything: "Diplo is also a Puertorican Comedian Ramón Rivero (May 29, 1909 – August 24, 1956)"? 『 ɠu¹ɖяy 』 ¤ 21:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes by copyright/marketing trademark infringement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.210.29.136 ( talk) 17:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The following section among other things have been recently removed.
“ | Critics have been divided on his early work, with some expressing acclaim for the mixtape, while others expressing relief that M.I.A.'s aesthetic and her debut album didn't have a lot of input from the DJ.
[1] In 2007, Arulpragasam confronted the
public media, specifically music blog
Pitchforkmedia about some journalists' motives behind misinformation regarding Diplo and her work. Pitchforkmedia author Paul Thomson responded by stating Diplo "seemed to think he had a bit to do with both of her records."
[2] Diplo has worked on two tracks on each M.I.A. album. In 2009, he revealed that aside from loaning a baile funk beat to the song "Bucky Done Gun," he lied to people that he produced M.I.A.'s first album "to get them to know who I was."
[3] He described the songs he did not work on on M.I.A.'s third album as being "a turd" in 2010.
[4] Initially he stated that he worked at a studio in Santa Monica rather than at M.I.A.'s home studio on the album, because "her boyfriend really hates me".
[5] Later he stated his distaste for the album stemmed from not "feeling the vibe with some of the new producers."
[6]
Diplo and his friend Low Budget started a DJ collective, Hollertronix. It has been described as a "disparate genres to be smashed into each other for maximum attention-grabbing impact" aesthetic inferior to the "organic, cohesive, whole" aesthetic of acts such as M.I.A. and Bun B, and, to date, M.I.A. is hailed as the "yardstick" by which Diplo and his associates ("Friends of Diplo") are judged. [1] Legendary artists including Bun B, DJ Marlboro and DJ Technics have been described as having "benefitted from the Hollertronix aesthetic but who haven't ever been influenced by it." [1] |
” |
The section that has been blanked, first by the IP vandal User talk:76.79.190.139 and now by the newly formed user User:Davidbhutch has been reinserted. Seeing as these events/occurences are covered in multiple reliable sources and is what makes this person notable, I see no reason for the removal. Lifebonzza ( talk) 12:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
References
My intention wasn't to remove 'valid information', rather correct an error you make AGAIN in your explanation. What makes Diplo relevant is not his relationship to another artist. I believe his accomplishments in the music industry, while including M.I.A., do not begin and end with her. In an effort to remove bias which clearly sheds the two's relationship in a negative light, I have edited the page to include discussion of his relationship with M.I.A., but as it pertains to their work together, and his career following their relationship. Again, the changes aren't intended to distort anything, rather provide a wealth of information pertaining to Diplo which isn't exclusive to his relationship with M.I.A.
I am more than willing to enter a dispute resolution with someone who disagrees.
Also, I am a 'new user', so there are some things about Wikipedia I have yet to learn. If there is a formatting issue, please let me know and I will do my best to rectify. For instance, I don't know how to sign my name... but this is the user Davidbhutch Davidbhutch ( talk) 18:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Here's the changes I made today, with explanations etc... I've changed the language here from saying "He is best known for dating M.I.A., credited with helping expose him in his early career, and later working with Robyn."
It has been changed to say, "He is best known for dating M.I.A., credited with helping expose her in her early career, and later working with many other pop artists like Robyn." This change takes into consideration a timeline of events that is confirmed as 'him discovering her' by articles such as, http://www.timeout.com/london/clubs/features/6665/Diplo-interview.html , http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/6006-diplo/, http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/diplo-the-stylus-interview.htm, http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/14639/81860 Also, the language of this sentence has been changed to reflect the fact that he didn't just go on to work with Robyn, proof of which can be found later in the article.
Next I've made some changes to this section of the text: "Hollertronix has been described as a "disparate genres to be smashed into each other for maximum attention-grabbing impact" aesthetic inferior to the "organic, cohesive, whole" aesthetic of acts such as M.I.A. and Bun B, and, to date, M.I.A. is hailed as the "yardstick" by which Diplo and his associates ("Friends of Diplo") are judged."
To me it seems like the language doesn't really make sense. First of all, someone describe the aesthetic of Hollertronix's work as being inferior to Bun B and M.I.A. That OPINION does not seem valid for inclusion if the piece is to remain unbiased. Also, "To date" does not seem like an accurate way to measure one person's statement from some time ago.
The sentence has been changed to read: "Hollertronix has been described as "disparate genres to be smashed together for maximum attention-grabbing impact" an aesthetic which takes from the "organic, cohesive, whole" aesthetic of acts such as Bun B, Lil Jon, Drama, M.I.A., Bjork, Busta Rhymes and others." With an added citation: http://www.formatmag.com/features/diplo/
While the Yardstick comparison is valid for inclusion, I don't believe it belongs in this portion of the bio. so I've added it further in where it now says: " They worked together after the release and he toured as a DJ on her 2005
Arular Tour. Some have referred to M.I.A. as the "yardstick" by which Diplo and his associates (Friends of Diplo) are judged." Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).
Also I've changed a bit of the text around this portion: "Later he stated his distaste for the album stemmed from not "feeling the vibe with some of the new producers."
I don't believe his having initially stated his reason for working in a studio outside of her home has any relation to him later stating his distaste for the album, at least not relation that can be inferred with logical validity. I've removed the word initially and changed the sentence to begin: "He stated" and then , "Later he mentioned", just for the sake of not saying "He stated" twice in a row. Davidbhutch ( talk) 17:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC) Davidbhutch ( talk) 17:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Just in glancing over this... way to entirely avoid any semblance of 'resolution' I was attempting. I'll be deleting it again in a little while, with a very similar justification. 173.15.122.38 ( talk) 17:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC) My bad I'm on a new computer... DAVIDBHUTCH Singing... Davidbhutch ( talk)
"When they broke up, M.I.A. posted on her blog something to the effect of how much it sucks for your boyfriend to leave you to make songs for Brazilian strippers (someone needs to start keeping her away from the internet when she’s mad), and in the Hirschberg piece it’s revealed that he’s not even allowed in her house anymore, even though they are still making some music together."
The result of the move request was: Move. The case is made that this is the primary use of the name "Diplo"; as noted this move does not affect the article Ramón Rivero. Cúchullain t/ c 15:26, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
– Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 70,000 hits per month clearly dwarfs anything else on the dab page. 82.132.218.89 ( talk) 20:31, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
I just removed a "Controversies" section that has been added as part of the backlash against him due to recent actions. While I understand "the internet" doesn't like Diplo today, he's been a controversial figure in the music scene for years. If somebody wants to create a well cited controversies section that covers the entirety of his career (MIA and Taylor Swift spring to mind) then please include it. However dedicating an entire section of an extremely notable artist's article on an event that will be mostly forgotten in three days is inappropriate. Brandon ( talk) 10:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC) 2-11 never 4get — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.142.211 ( talk) 02:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
"an event that will be mostly forgotten in three days" is the author's unfounded personal opinion. If a user wants to ad those other controversies, he can do it himself, not eliminate the category all together, especially for a public figure that he acknowledges that has been in many thorough his entire public career.
Hi, I'm missing a note about Major Lazer (TV series) which seems to be created by Diplo. (Maybe in Additional Work?) — Tauriel-1 ( ☎) 12:01, 29 December 2015 (UTC)