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Arthicus (did I spell your username right? Sorry if I didn't!), I reverted your edits to the synopsis, because I didn't think them an improvement. I don't think I'm defending my version, either, because that was recently replaced by a version that I just copyedited. Lots of interest in synopsizing this movie.
Anyway, I disagree with the characterization of the story as being "non-linear" and "uncharacteristic of Bollywood". Lots of Bollywood movies have flashbacks; it's a standard story technique. Zubeidaa was just about ALL of it flashbacks. As for interweaving three stories -- well, the canonical instance of that is Amar, Akbar, Anthony.
Plus -- I know it's spoilered but ... the bit re giving the same speech twice, once as pickup line and once heartfelt, is just too neat to ruin by telling readers ahead of time. Do let them discover it for themselves. I may be off-base here, but I think the purpose of the synopsis is to tell just enough so that the reader can decide for him/herself whether or not he/she wants to see the movie.
Hmmm ... well, when I've had to watch movies without subtitles (and I'm nuts enough to do that!) I do consult synopses to figure out the story. But Dil Chahta Hai has subtitles! <g>
I don't want to discourage you. There is certainly enough work for editors interested in Bollywood movies or Indian cinema in general. Please forgive me for being picky and keep on editing. Zora 13:40, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
One editor keeps inserting the trivia that Aamir's goatee became a hot new style trend among Indian youth. But is this true? What's the evidence? We need a reference to a newspaper, magazine, or website making this claim.
I am new to wikipedia editing so i apologize for accidently not following the correct procedure and not giving references. I (Yajkr) made the edits in the trivia. Also I said that the goatee and hairstyle both became famous. yea Zora was correct by saying that the goatee might not have become as famous as the hairstyle (which i accept as an error on my part) but the hairstyle did become quite famous. please see the article which i intend to use as reference to support my claim in tribune india by clicking on this link. I hope this is good enough. thanks, Yajkr.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020803/windows/fashion.htm
As for the synopsis -- someone again replaced a short synopsis with an extremely long and BORING replay of the entire movie. Readers will not read this kind of thing. They will zoom over it. Shut it out. It is like being trapped in a corner at a party while a bore tells you every detail of some recent event in his life. Look, if you've seen the movie, you don't need this. If you haven't, you don't want to know the whole plot. We only need enough of a plot to let people know whether or not they might be interested in the movie. Zora 22:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
about the hairstyle...hmm i am on the lookout for some more credible evidence if you say so. I fully appreciate your concerns about WP being used as a billboard but all the ones i have looked till now which mention the hairstyles also mention Contractor so ull need to give me some time as i have an exam coming up. as for now another thing i can say to support this is that after seeing it most of my friends had this hairstyle and infact i sported it for sometime too :) ...Yajkr
here's another link I found. this is from the hindu and it mentions the trend started by aamir's hairstyle in DCH. I hope this is good since the hindu is a reputed newspaper in India...let me know what you think...Yajkr
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2004/09/27/stories/2004092702180100.htm
here's another one that i think is self explanatory. read subsection aamir's spikes. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/Oct212005/living1259120051020.asp
and another http://www.webindia123.com/movie/profiles/aamir.htm
and another http://www.bollywood4u.com/profile/aamir_khan.htm
and another...mentions aamir starting a trend... http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2005/08/02/stories/2005080200900300.htm
hmm...enuf evidence i think this is getting addictive and obsessive...isnt it :)
hmm...lemme know...Yajkr
thank you for your compliment. I think it is good to have such high standards about wikipedia since it is almost used by everybody and recently there was an article (about 4-5 weeks ago) in the news that some senator or something of that sort in america had a biography and it was full of false statements so we dont want that happening again...Yajkr
This is with regards to this edit by Zora. Although the synopsis should be small, I have seen that ALL Featured Articles on movies have a section on "story" which is equivalent to the length as it appeared on this article before the edit by Zora. I find that this edit took the article miles back. Although it might be boring, but encyclopedia article is supposed to be comprehensive. Frankly, I haven't found even 5% of Featured Articles interesting enough to be read fully. But this does not mean that I go ahead with trimming them all to 10kb in size. Please consider restoring the version that existed before. If you are not convinced, check out ANY featured article on a movie and you will understand what I mean. - Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 20:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Insisting that your prose be featured, even if it's boring and meandering, even if no one wants to read it -- what's the point of that? I hate to be harsh, but you're pushing me into it. I've been writing for an online audience for eighteen years and I know well that people are just not as patient when they read on a computer screen as when they read a book. We have to use shorter paragraphs and less complex sentences. Bullet points and indents help too.
Now we could work towards a version that's longer than the one we have now, but shorter than the one you want to put up. Instead of doing this IN the article, we could set up a Talk:Dil Chahta Hai/Temp page, paste your version of the synopsis there, and work on it until we're both satisfied. Would you be OK with that? Zora 10:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Zuracech, threatening your fellow editors is not the way to get things done here. No, a synopsis doesn't have to tell everything. See the discussion above. Most of the editors working on Bollywood films have agreed not to reveal endings for recent films. We try to tell enough about the film that readers can decide whether or not to see it, and hint as to whether it's a happy or sad ending, but we don't reveal any special plot twists. Dil Chahta Hai may be old enough now that we can assume that revealing the ending isn't going to bother readers. If you can add two or three sentences that give the ending in more detail, fine. Something like, Akash and what-his-face (the Saif Ali Khan guy) find true love; Sid finds heartbreak, when the older woman dies in the hospital. However, at the end of the film, we see Sid glancing at ??? and can guess that his story too will have a happy ending. Zora 06:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Seeing that the article is written in English, would it be too much to ask that the quotes include an English translation, in deferrence tonon-Hindi readers? Thanks - BillCJ 23:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I have tried buying the cd online on various websites, but they don't list 'rockin goa' as a track. However, I feel like I had listened to that song on the cassette when I was in India. If that is not true, and Rocking goa is not even on the music cassette, then the track listing should be removed from the main list, and put under the mention of 'desert rose'. Yashrg 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
I have owned both the cassette (bought it around the time the movie released) and the CD version of the soundtrack. The cassette HAD rockin goa on it but the CD did not. I think this should be mentioned out there.
Yajkr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.4.8.12 ( talk) 14:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
IT DID NOT GROSS 91 CRORES WORLDWIDE. SOME IDIOTS ARE CLAIMING THAT IT DID. IT EARNED ONLY 26 CRORES WORLDWIDE. I AM ADDING A RELIABLE SOURCE FOR THE BOX OFFICE, BUT IDIOTS MAKE THIS 91 CRORE BOX OFFICE CLAIM, AND REVERT MY EDIT.
DO NOT REVERT, OR ELSE I WILL REPORT YOU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.236.31 ( talk) 04:53, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Initially, Akhtar wanted Akshaye Khanna, Hrithik Roshan and Abhishek Bachchan in the three main roles. [1] While Khanna agreed to do the film, Roshan and Bachchan were unavailable. [2] Akhtar offered the part of Akash to Khanna and he offered the part of Sid to Aamir Khan. However, Khan did not want to play Sid and wanted to play Akash instead. Khanna agreed to play Sid so that Khan could play Akash. Afterwards, Saif Ali Khan joined the cast as Sameer. Preity Zinta and Sonali Kulkarni were cast as Shalini and Pooja respectively. Akhtar convinced actress Dimple Kapadia to come out of retirement to play the role of divorcée Tara Jaiswal. After 15 months of extensive pre-production, the film was shot over a four-month period in Mumbai, India and Sydney, Australia. [3]
Dil Chahta Hai's style extended to the music and its picturisation. Initially, director Farhan Akhtar had approached A. R. Rahman for composing the music. But since Rahman was busy with other engagements, he did not accept the offer. [4] Later Rahman commented that he was glad that the project went to Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and he personally loved their work in the film. [5] One song sequence recapitulates and, to some extent, parodies Bollywood song-and-dance history. Other songs drop the usual dance accompaniment – one depicts an argument between two protagonists through the song's lyrics, another establishes the character's state of mind through a moody photo collage, while yet another imagines the beautiful and idealised world of an artist in love through a song inside a painting. There is an extended opera sequence at the Sydney Opera House, which was exclusively commissioned for the film. [3]
References
- ^ "17 rare facts about Dil Chahta Hai". filmfare.com. Retrieved 2019-07-01.
- ^ "Swades and Dil Chahta Hai: Four roles Hrithik Roshan said no to | bollywood". Hindustan Times. 2019-01-10. Retrieved 2019-07-01.
- ^ a b Bhattacharya, Roshmila (23 August 2002). "Heart Copy". Screen. Retrieved 3 July 2009.
- ^ "Shahrukh in Farhan's 'Oye! ... It's Friday.'(merged threads) [Archive] – Shah Rukh Khan Forum". Archived from the original on 2011-07-26. Retrieved 2011-06-15.
- ^ rediff.com: 'I was very surprised with the three Oscar nominations for Slumdog'
-- Nicholas Michael Halim ( talk) 06:54, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
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Dil Chahta Hai article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
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Arthicus (did I spell your username right? Sorry if I didn't!), I reverted your edits to the synopsis, because I didn't think them an improvement. I don't think I'm defending my version, either, because that was recently replaced by a version that I just copyedited. Lots of interest in synopsizing this movie.
Anyway, I disagree with the characterization of the story as being "non-linear" and "uncharacteristic of Bollywood". Lots of Bollywood movies have flashbacks; it's a standard story technique. Zubeidaa was just about ALL of it flashbacks. As for interweaving three stories -- well, the canonical instance of that is Amar, Akbar, Anthony.
Plus -- I know it's spoilered but ... the bit re giving the same speech twice, once as pickup line and once heartfelt, is just too neat to ruin by telling readers ahead of time. Do let them discover it for themselves. I may be off-base here, but I think the purpose of the synopsis is to tell just enough so that the reader can decide for him/herself whether or not he/she wants to see the movie.
Hmmm ... well, when I've had to watch movies without subtitles (and I'm nuts enough to do that!) I do consult synopses to figure out the story. But Dil Chahta Hai has subtitles! <g>
I don't want to discourage you. There is certainly enough work for editors interested in Bollywood movies or Indian cinema in general. Please forgive me for being picky and keep on editing. Zora 13:40, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
One editor keeps inserting the trivia that Aamir's goatee became a hot new style trend among Indian youth. But is this true? What's the evidence? We need a reference to a newspaper, magazine, or website making this claim.
I am new to wikipedia editing so i apologize for accidently not following the correct procedure and not giving references. I (Yajkr) made the edits in the trivia. Also I said that the goatee and hairstyle both became famous. yea Zora was correct by saying that the goatee might not have become as famous as the hairstyle (which i accept as an error on my part) but the hairstyle did become quite famous. please see the article which i intend to use as reference to support my claim in tribune india by clicking on this link. I hope this is good enough. thanks, Yajkr.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020803/windows/fashion.htm
As for the synopsis -- someone again replaced a short synopsis with an extremely long and BORING replay of the entire movie. Readers will not read this kind of thing. They will zoom over it. Shut it out. It is like being trapped in a corner at a party while a bore tells you every detail of some recent event in his life. Look, if you've seen the movie, you don't need this. If you haven't, you don't want to know the whole plot. We only need enough of a plot to let people know whether or not they might be interested in the movie. Zora 22:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
about the hairstyle...hmm i am on the lookout for some more credible evidence if you say so. I fully appreciate your concerns about WP being used as a billboard but all the ones i have looked till now which mention the hairstyles also mention Contractor so ull need to give me some time as i have an exam coming up. as for now another thing i can say to support this is that after seeing it most of my friends had this hairstyle and infact i sported it for sometime too :) ...Yajkr
here's another link I found. this is from the hindu and it mentions the trend started by aamir's hairstyle in DCH. I hope this is good since the hindu is a reputed newspaper in India...let me know what you think...Yajkr
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2004/09/27/stories/2004092702180100.htm
here's another one that i think is self explanatory. read subsection aamir's spikes. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/Oct212005/living1259120051020.asp
and another http://www.webindia123.com/movie/profiles/aamir.htm
and another http://www.bollywood4u.com/profile/aamir_khan.htm
and another...mentions aamir starting a trend... http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2005/08/02/stories/2005080200900300.htm
hmm...enuf evidence i think this is getting addictive and obsessive...isnt it :)
hmm...lemme know...Yajkr
thank you for your compliment. I think it is good to have such high standards about wikipedia since it is almost used by everybody and recently there was an article (about 4-5 weeks ago) in the news that some senator or something of that sort in america had a biography and it was full of false statements so we dont want that happening again...Yajkr
This is with regards to this edit by Zora. Although the synopsis should be small, I have seen that ALL Featured Articles on movies have a section on "story" which is equivalent to the length as it appeared on this article before the edit by Zora. I find that this edit took the article miles back. Although it might be boring, but encyclopedia article is supposed to be comprehensive. Frankly, I haven't found even 5% of Featured Articles interesting enough to be read fully. But this does not mean that I go ahead with trimming them all to 10kb in size. Please consider restoring the version that existed before. If you are not convinced, check out ANY featured article on a movie and you will understand what I mean. - Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 20:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Insisting that your prose be featured, even if it's boring and meandering, even if no one wants to read it -- what's the point of that? I hate to be harsh, but you're pushing me into it. I've been writing for an online audience for eighteen years and I know well that people are just not as patient when they read on a computer screen as when they read a book. We have to use shorter paragraphs and less complex sentences. Bullet points and indents help too.
Now we could work towards a version that's longer than the one we have now, but shorter than the one you want to put up. Instead of doing this IN the article, we could set up a Talk:Dil Chahta Hai/Temp page, paste your version of the synopsis there, and work on it until we're both satisfied. Would you be OK with that? Zora 10:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Zuracech, threatening your fellow editors is not the way to get things done here. No, a synopsis doesn't have to tell everything. See the discussion above. Most of the editors working on Bollywood films have agreed not to reveal endings for recent films. We try to tell enough about the film that readers can decide whether or not to see it, and hint as to whether it's a happy or sad ending, but we don't reveal any special plot twists. Dil Chahta Hai may be old enough now that we can assume that revealing the ending isn't going to bother readers. If you can add two or three sentences that give the ending in more detail, fine. Something like, Akash and what-his-face (the Saif Ali Khan guy) find true love; Sid finds heartbreak, when the older woman dies in the hospital. However, at the end of the film, we see Sid glancing at ??? and can guess that his story too will have a happy ending. Zora 06:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Seeing that the article is written in English, would it be too much to ask that the quotes include an English translation, in deferrence tonon-Hindi readers? Thanks - BillCJ 23:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I have tried buying the cd online on various websites, but they don't list 'rockin goa' as a track. However, I feel like I had listened to that song on the cassette when I was in India. If that is not true, and Rocking goa is not even on the music cassette, then the track listing should be removed from the main list, and put under the mention of 'desert rose'. Yashrg 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
I have owned both the cassette (bought it around the time the movie released) and the CD version of the soundtrack. The cassette HAD rockin goa on it but the CD did not. I think this should be mentioned out there.
Yajkr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.4.8.12 ( talk) 14:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
IT DID NOT GROSS 91 CRORES WORLDWIDE. SOME IDIOTS ARE CLAIMING THAT IT DID. IT EARNED ONLY 26 CRORES WORLDWIDE. I AM ADDING A RELIABLE SOURCE FOR THE BOX OFFICE, BUT IDIOTS MAKE THIS 91 CRORE BOX OFFICE CLAIM, AND REVERT MY EDIT.
DO NOT REVERT, OR ELSE I WILL REPORT YOU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.236.31 ( talk) 04:53, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Initially, Akhtar wanted Akshaye Khanna, Hrithik Roshan and Abhishek Bachchan in the three main roles. [1] While Khanna agreed to do the film, Roshan and Bachchan were unavailable. [2] Akhtar offered the part of Akash to Khanna and he offered the part of Sid to Aamir Khan. However, Khan did not want to play Sid and wanted to play Akash instead. Khanna agreed to play Sid so that Khan could play Akash. Afterwards, Saif Ali Khan joined the cast as Sameer. Preity Zinta and Sonali Kulkarni were cast as Shalini and Pooja respectively. Akhtar convinced actress Dimple Kapadia to come out of retirement to play the role of divorcée Tara Jaiswal. After 15 months of extensive pre-production, the film was shot over a four-month period in Mumbai, India and Sydney, Australia. [3]
Dil Chahta Hai's style extended to the music and its picturisation. Initially, director Farhan Akhtar had approached A. R. Rahman for composing the music. But since Rahman was busy with other engagements, he did not accept the offer. [4] Later Rahman commented that he was glad that the project went to Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and he personally loved their work in the film. [5] One song sequence recapitulates and, to some extent, parodies Bollywood song-and-dance history. Other songs drop the usual dance accompaniment – one depicts an argument between two protagonists through the song's lyrics, another establishes the character's state of mind through a moody photo collage, while yet another imagines the beautiful and idealised world of an artist in love through a song inside a painting. There is an extended opera sequence at the Sydney Opera House, which was exclusively commissioned for the film. [3]
References
- ^ "17 rare facts about Dil Chahta Hai". filmfare.com. Retrieved 2019-07-01.
- ^ "Swades and Dil Chahta Hai: Four roles Hrithik Roshan said no to | bollywood". Hindustan Times. 2019-01-10. Retrieved 2019-07-01.
- ^ a b Bhattacharya, Roshmila (23 August 2002). "Heart Copy". Screen. Retrieved 3 July 2009.
- ^ "Shahrukh in Farhan's 'Oye! ... It's Friday.'(merged threads) [Archive] – Shah Rukh Khan Forum". Archived from the original on 2011-07-26. Retrieved 2011-06-15.
- ^ rediff.com: 'I was very surprised with the three Oscar nominations for Slumdog'
-- Nicholas Michael Halim ( talk) 06:54, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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