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The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
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08:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
The article notes: "NoxInfluencer统计结果显示,真正在海外走红并成功变现的中国区网红只有排名前三位的“办公室小野”“李子柒”和“滇西小哥”。三者的视频均是“美食默片”,长度控制在5至10分钟,出镜者言语不多,借助简单英文字幕即可让全世界网友心领神会。"
From Google Translate: "NoxInfluencer statistics show that the only Chinese Internet celebrities who have become popular overseas and been successfully realized are only the top three of Ms Yeah, Li Ziqi, and Dianxi Xiaoge. The three vloggers' channels all make "food silent films", the length is controlled at 5 to 10 minutes, and the person who appears on the screen doesn't speak much. With the help of simple English subtitles, netizens all over the world can understand."
The article notes: "“小哥”,说的便是“滇西小哥”。这位全网粉丝量超过1600万的美食博主,制作发布的云南美食视频,单期平均播放量达2000万次左右。这样一位美食博主,竟然生活在如此偏僻的山野之中? ... “滇西小哥”本名董梅华,是个“90后”。算起来,回乡已有4年。“小时候,走出去的愿望特别强烈。... 高考填志愿,一所云南的学校都没选, ... 在“滇西小哥”的记忆里,上小学之前,村里还没通自来水。每天清晨,妈妈都得起个大早,去山脚的那口泉眼挑几大桶水回来。"
From Google Translate: ""Little Brother" refers to "Dianxi Xiaoge". This food blogger with more than 16 million fans on the entire network has produced and released Yunnan food videos with an average of about 20 million views in a single issue. Such a food blogger lives in such remote mountains? ... "Dianxi Xiaoge", whose real name is Dong Meihua, is a "post-90s". After calculating, it has been 4 years since she returned to her hometown. "When I was young, I had a strong desire to go out.... Filling up my wish for the college entrance examination, I didn't choose a school in Yunnan. ... In the memory of Dianxi Xiaoge, before she went to primary school, the village had no running water. Every morning, her mother had to get up early to pick up a few large buckets of water from the spring at the foot of the mountain."
Created by Cunard ( talk). Self-nominated at 07:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC).
Here is an alternative hook:
ALT1: ... that
Dianxi Xiaoge, who grew up in a remote
Yunnan mountain without
running water, went viral in China and internationally after making hamburgers for her grandparents who had never eaten them before?
Sources:
At 3:33 in the video: "The video that helped her go viral, on both domestic and international platforms, was this one ... in which she makes a hamburger Chinese country-side style. 'Because my grandparents and family members have spent their whole lives in the countryside, I really wanted them to try hamburgers. Because in their eyes, hamburgers are Western food and a novelty. I kept wanting to take them out for hamburgers, but I moved back to Yunnan before I could. So I figured I'd make them myself.'"
The article notes: "The reason she wanted to tackle the hamburger is sentimental. “My grandma and grandpa had never had a burger before,” she tells us, “and I wanted to make them one based on how I remembered eating it in the city.”"
The guideline says that "200 is a hard limit", so it is not true that the 200-character ALT1 hook is "ineligible" or "simply too long". No reason has been given for rejecting a 200-character hook "at the discretion of reviewers".The hook should be concise: no more than about 200 characters (including spaces and the question mark, but not including the
...
, the space immediately following the...
, or any(pictured)
). While 200 is a hard limit, hooks near or at this limit may still be rejected at the discretion of reviewers and administrators. This tool can be used for counting words.
Here are two additional hooks based on the suggestion:
ALT2: ... that Dianxi Xiaoge, who grew up in a remote Yunnan mountain village without running water, is an Internet celebrity with roughly 16 million subscribers on all her platforms?
ALT3: ... Dianxi Xiaoge went viral in China and internationally after making hamburgers for her grandparents who had never eaten them before?
The article doesn't use the phrase "one of only three Chinese influencers to gain international influence", so I'm not sure where you got that, but it does say she is one of only three "Chinese Internet celebrities who have reached international prominence", and the problem with that claim is that it's sourced to an article that is two years old and therefore not up-to-date. With regard to the overall length, I would agree that it is overly detailed and could use a trim. I'm not sure this is relevant to DYK however, as "overly detailed" is not one of our criteria. What I would say is that the level of detail does raise the chances of close paraphrasing so the article would need to be carefully checked for that. Anybody else with an opinion on this article? Gatoclass (talk) 14:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Is Dianxi Xiaoge of Han Chinese ethnicity? We should add this basic information to the article. 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 21:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by
Theleekycauldron (
talk)
08:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
The article notes: "NoxInfluencer统计结果显示,真正在海外走红并成功变现的中国区网红只有排名前三位的“办公室小野”“李子柒”和“滇西小哥”。三者的视频均是“美食默片”,长度控制在5至10分钟,出镜者言语不多,借助简单英文字幕即可让全世界网友心领神会。"
From Google Translate: "NoxInfluencer statistics show that the only Chinese Internet celebrities who have become popular overseas and been successfully realized are only the top three of Ms Yeah, Li Ziqi, and Dianxi Xiaoge. The three vloggers' channels all make "food silent films", the length is controlled at 5 to 10 minutes, and the person who appears on the screen doesn't speak much. With the help of simple English subtitles, netizens all over the world can understand."
The article notes: "“小哥”,说的便是“滇西小哥”。这位全网粉丝量超过1600万的美食博主,制作发布的云南美食视频,单期平均播放量达2000万次左右。这样一位美食博主,竟然生活在如此偏僻的山野之中? ... “滇西小哥”本名董梅华,是个“90后”。算起来,回乡已有4年。“小时候,走出去的愿望特别强烈。... 高考填志愿,一所云南的学校都没选, ... 在“滇西小哥”的记忆里,上小学之前,村里还没通自来水。每天清晨,妈妈都得起个大早,去山脚的那口泉眼挑几大桶水回来。"
From Google Translate: ""Little Brother" refers to "Dianxi Xiaoge". This food blogger with more than 16 million fans on the entire network has produced and released Yunnan food videos with an average of about 20 million views in a single issue. Such a food blogger lives in such remote mountains? ... "Dianxi Xiaoge", whose real name is Dong Meihua, is a "post-90s". After calculating, it has been 4 years since she returned to her hometown. "When I was young, I had a strong desire to go out.... Filling up my wish for the college entrance examination, I didn't choose a school in Yunnan. ... In the memory of Dianxi Xiaoge, before she went to primary school, the village had no running water. Every morning, her mother had to get up early to pick up a few large buckets of water from the spring at the foot of the mountain."
Created by Cunard ( talk). Self-nominated at 07:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC).
Here is an alternative hook:
ALT1: ... that
Dianxi Xiaoge, who grew up in a remote
Yunnan mountain without
running water, went viral in China and internationally after making hamburgers for her grandparents who had never eaten them before?
Sources:
At 3:33 in the video: "The video that helped her go viral, on both domestic and international platforms, was this one ... in which she makes a hamburger Chinese country-side style. 'Because my grandparents and family members have spent their whole lives in the countryside, I really wanted them to try hamburgers. Because in their eyes, hamburgers are Western food and a novelty. I kept wanting to take them out for hamburgers, but I moved back to Yunnan before I could. So I figured I'd make them myself.'"
The article notes: "The reason she wanted to tackle the hamburger is sentimental. “My grandma and grandpa had never had a burger before,” she tells us, “and I wanted to make them one based on how I remembered eating it in the city.”"
The guideline says that "200 is a hard limit", so it is not true that the 200-character ALT1 hook is "ineligible" or "simply too long". No reason has been given for rejecting a 200-character hook "at the discretion of reviewers".The hook should be concise: no more than about 200 characters (including spaces and the question mark, but not including the
...
, the space immediately following the...
, or any(pictured)
). While 200 is a hard limit, hooks near or at this limit may still be rejected at the discretion of reviewers and administrators. This tool can be used for counting words.
Here are two additional hooks based on the suggestion:
ALT2: ... that Dianxi Xiaoge, who grew up in a remote Yunnan mountain village without running water, is an Internet celebrity with roughly 16 million subscribers on all her platforms?
ALT3: ... Dianxi Xiaoge went viral in China and internationally after making hamburgers for her grandparents who had never eaten them before?
The article doesn't use the phrase "one of only three Chinese influencers to gain international influence", so I'm not sure where you got that, but it does say she is one of only three "Chinese Internet celebrities who have reached international prominence", and the problem with that claim is that it's sourced to an article that is two years old and therefore not up-to-date. With regard to the overall length, I would agree that it is overly detailed and could use a trim. I'm not sure this is relevant to DYK however, as "overly detailed" is not one of our criteria. What I would say is that the level of detail does raise the chances of close paraphrasing so the article would need to be carefully checked for that. Anybody else with an opinion on this article? Gatoclass (talk) 14:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Is Dianxi Xiaoge of Han Chinese ethnicity? We should add this basic information to the article. 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 21:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)