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@ Robert McClenon: Hi! Best regards. When you ask about the author of the draft, to which do you refer to? User @ Vladthelad123: created an article under the title "LegalEagle" back in October, of which I was unaware of until my version, started in January. Personally, I don't have financial or any other connection with the subject of the draft. I'm aware of the WP:COI policy and I'm a long standing editor that has edited about several other unrelated topics.
I'll look forward to any possible recommendations or improvements that I can do to the article. Many thanks in advance! -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 23:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
I have removed the unsourced section, added another reference and expanded the infobox. All but one of the references are independent sources, meaning that the article meets WP:GNG. If possible, I believe that the draft should be accepted for this reason. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 11:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Seems like this article contains multiple unreliable, and primary sources, with others being mere trivial mentions. It's probably not going to be accepted until the article contains better sources, and it seems unlikely it will be accepted anyways based on the notability. This YouTuber only has about 2 million subscribers, and many channels with more subscribers do not have an article on Wikipedia. This article also is not necessarily in neutral point of view, and appears it was almost certainly written by a fan of this channel. Try checking out: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Notability, and Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View. Thanks, Clear friend a 💬 17:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I feel like this article should have more information about Stone's YouTube channel, since he seems to be at least as well-known for that as for his law career (all of his social media identifies him as LegalEagle, his law practice site mentions the channel in his bio, the vast majority of articles on him at least mention the LegalEagle name; it's pretty clearly how the general public best knows him). The article as is briefly mentions the channel and otherwise entirely focuses on his law career. I feel like we could easily include at least some rudimentary info about the channel (when it started, the type of content he makes, notable videos, any metrics that have been made public) like every other article about a YouTuber does.
(Before anyone cites WP:SODOIT, I already have a bunch of other articles I'm working on, plus I'm not that familiar with the guy's channel outside of a couple videos so I wouldn't know where to start.) Invisiboy42293 ( talk) 20:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
@ Ahunt: I don't quite get why "Internet celebrity" is listed in the infobox. It's already assumed that most YouTubers fall into this category, and none of the examples at {{ Infobox YouTube personality}} include it, even if the subject is known for their online presence. Yeeno ( talk) 02:00, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to LegalEagle (YouTuber). As the move outcome that has by far the least opposition. The finding that we should use his WP:COMMONNAME has gone virtually unchallenged, but "LegalEagle" was not found to be distinguishable enough to avoid ambiguity. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 07:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Devin Stone → LegalEagle or LegalEagle (YouTuber) – While Devin Stone is his real name, he is only really WP:NOTABLE for his YouTube channel. All the secondary sources on this article refer to him at least once as "Legal Eagle" and [1] doesn't even refer to him as "Devin Stone". Illuminati42 ( talk) 01:38, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
I've taken PROD off although I do agree that this could be better sourced. I think there are sources out there. Just using the links at the top of this page I find quite a bit in Google News, Books and Scholar. Not huge amounts but probably enough. Of course, I can't blame anybody for putting PROD on it if there are good sources but we aren't using them. Here are a few:
I'm not sure that all of it is good. Some of it is paywalled. I think it should be enough to justify holding off on deletion though. DanielRigal ( talk) 03:51, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 14:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
LegalEagle (YouTuber) → LegalEagle – LegalEagle is not really a plausible construction of Legal Eagles (film), Legal Eagles (TV series) or Milholland Legal Eagle. A hatnote to Legal Eagle can take care of ambiguity. Schierbecker ( talk) 17:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 18:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Birthyear almost certainly 1983. Here he starts talking about his recent birthday being 'the big one'.
youtu.be => OQdD94evetA?si=-w4nOWphNzYBPrSp&t=1124
Meaning very likely he turned 40 in December. Pokerface ( talk) 08:38, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 19 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from LegalEagle (YouTuber) to LegalEagle. The result of the discussion was moved. |
@ Robert McClenon: Hi! Best regards. When you ask about the author of the draft, to which do you refer to? User @ Vladthelad123: created an article under the title "LegalEagle" back in October, of which I was unaware of until my version, started in January. Personally, I don't have financial or any other connection with the subject of the draft. I'm aware of the WP:COI policy and I'm a long standing editor that has edited about several other unrelated topics.
I'll look forward to any possible recommendations or improvements that I can do to the article. Many thanks in advance! -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 23:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
I have removed the unsourced section, added another reference and expanded the infobox. All but one of the references are independent sources, meaning that the article meets WP:GNG. If possible, I believe that the draft should be accepted for this reason. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 11:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Seems like this article contains multiple unreliable, and primary sources, with others being mere trivial mentions. It's probably not going to be accepted until the article contains better sources, and it seems unlikely it will be accepted anyways based on the notability. This YouTuber only has about 2 million subscribers, and many channels with more subscribers do not have an article on Wikipedia. This article also is not necessarily in neutral point of view, and appears it was almost certainly written by a fan of this channel. Try checking out: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Notability, and Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View. Thanks, Clear friend a 💬 17:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I feel like this article should have more information about Stone's YouTube channel, since he seems to be at least as well-known for that as for his law career (all of his social media identifies him as LegalEagle, his law practice site mentions the channel in his bio, the vast majority of articles on him at least mention the LegalEagle name; it's pretty clearly how the general public best knows him). The article as is briefly mentions the channel and otherwise entirely focuses on his law career. I feel like we could easily include at least some rudimentary info about the channel (when it started, the type of content he makes, notable videos, any metrics that have been made public) like every other article about a YouTuber does.
(Before anyone cites WP:SODOIT, I already have a bunch of other articles I'm working on, plus I'm not that familiar with the guy's channel outside of a couple videos so I wouldn't know where to start.) Invisiboy42293 ( talk) 20:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
@ Ahunt: I don't quite get why "Internet celebrity" is listed in the infobox. It's already assumed that most YouTubers fall into this category, and none of the examples at {{ Infobox YouTube personality}} include it, even if the subject is known for their online presence. Yeeno ( talk) 02:00, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to LegalEagle (YouTuber). As the move outcome that has by far the least opposition. The finding that we should use his WP:COMMONNAME has gone virtually unchallenged, but "LegalEagle" was not found to be distinguishable enough to avoid ambiguity. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 07:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Devin Stone → LegalEagle or LegalEagle (YouTuber) – While Devin Stone is his real name, he is only really WP:NOTABLE for his YouTube channel. All the secondary sources on this article refer to him at least once as "Legal Eagle" and [1] doesn't even refer to him as "Devin Stone". Illuminati42 ( talk) 01:38, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
I've taken PROD off although I do agree that this could be better sourced. I think there are sources out there. Just using the links at the top of this page I find quite a bit in Google News, Books and Scholar. Not huge amounts but probably enough. Of course, I can't blame anybody for putting PROD on it if there are good sources but we aren't using them. Here are a few:
I'm not sure that all of it is good. Some of it is paywalled. I think it should be enough to justify holding off on deletion though. DanielRigal ( talk) 03:51, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 14:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
LegalEagle (YouTuber) → LegalEagle – LegalEagle is not really a plausible construction of Legal Eagles (film), Legal Eagles (TV series) or Milholland Legal Eagle. A hatnote to Legal Eagle can take care of ambiguity. Schierbecker ( talk) 17:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 18:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Birthyear almost certainly 1983. Here he starts talking about his recent birthday being 'the big one'.
youtu.be => OQdD94evetA?si=-w4nOWphNzYBPrSp&t=1124
Meaning very likely he turned 40 in December. Pokerface ( talk) 08:38, 20 April 2024 (UTC)