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Shouldnt the links to the cars represented by each manufacturer be links to the actual dtm cars and not the roadgoing versions. Michaeljuan ( talk) 03:06, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
I have provisionally opted to list the number of drivers in terms of the number of seats available (20) rather than include the three replacement drivers that occupied the no.19 TME entry. If you disagree with this, please contribute to the relevant discussion at WP:MOTOR. Once the 2007 season entry list has been confirmed, these figures should be updated accordingly. - Adrian M. H. 18:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Could someone add a section for the current specifications of the cars? To save time, you can just fill this out:
I could make that a formal table, but I'd like to keep it flexible. Mustang6172 01:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I created the Categories for DTM circuits-- Cheetaih ( talk) 11:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
There seem to be some fundamental errors in the statistical information presented here. Both the Teams and Makes champions are claimed to be Mercedes-Benz, and yet Mercedes-benz do not run any teams themselves. According to the Mercedes-AMG article, HWA GmbH (no article) run some or all of the DTM Mercedes-Benzes. The DTM website list the teams champion as Salzgitter / Mercedes-Benz Bank, presumably the commercial, sponsored identity of the team. There is also no makes champion listed there.
Reflecting this, I've changed the teams champion, to reflect information on the DTM website, and removed the apparently non-existent makes champion.
Also - the champions table further down the page list manufacturers under the team's championship section, this is obviously false, and I intend to remove the teams championship section entirely until clarification can be sought, but not immediately so as to give the relevant knowledgeables time to respond. -- Falcadore ( talk) 02:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
What I do know is HWA AG builds and maintains the Mercedes' that are entered in the DTM series on behalf of AMG and Mercedes-Benz. Team HWA, HWA AG's official team, is considered a "works team". They maintain a four-car team using the latest variation and have always functioned like this, while the "privateer teams" such as Persson Motorsport and Mucke Motorsport have purchased HWA's year-old models. So yes, every Mercedes on the grid has been built by HWA and in fact raced by them. But it gets tricky because no more than two of HWA's cars have ever run under the same sponsorship, but they are team-mates as they race out of the same factory. I'm guessing it's just like NASCAR, one workship builds and runs multiple cars but they are subdivided into "teams" within a team. Thesmartstag ( talk) 22:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
...is now Susie Wolff. I dont know how to change the link, the article about her person is already correct, it only needs to be linked properly. And Im missing the skills... 128.176.12.241 ( talk) 15:33, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I trimmed the champions table back for a few reasons. Firstly, Wikipedia standard for these things is the champion, not top three. There is individual articles on each season, so there is no danger of the information being lost. People do not typically search for a list of championship second and third places. If they did, there are the individual season articles.
There are many many links thoughout the article indicating Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft is covered by a separate article. It is not necessary to add this in the champion table as well. Unneccessary duplication, particularly when the first instance it is bolded right at the top of the article. There is very little chance of the links being missed. Also the series name is identical in each instance, so why have that column at all, it is superfluous. -- Falcadore ( talk) 02:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move. Pitlane02 talk 07:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
– Since 2006 the ITR and the DMSB, and of course the DTM himself, called the series only DTM, not as an abbreviation, more as a trademark. [1] [2]. The reason is very easy, today NO touring cars are running in this series, the cars are prototype cars and the silhouettes are like coupes!
And in the next step a redirection from Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM is correct anytime, but the redirection from the disambiguation page DTM to Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters is only correct before 2006.
So I think, it's rational to move DTM to DTM (disambiguation) and Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM. Of course I'll relink the linked articles completly... Regards Pitlane02 talk 14:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I am grateful for your answers, Thx -- Pitlane02 talk 07:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not done. Nathan Johnson ( talk) 17:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters →
DTM (motorsport) – The lemma is WRONG since 2006. Since 2006 the ITR and the
DMSB, and of course the DTM himself, called the series only DTM, NOT as an abbreviation, more as a trademark.
[8]
[9]
[10]. The reason is very easy, today NO touring cars are running in this series, the cars are prototype cars and the silhouettes are like coupes!
A movement to DTM make no sense, because other terms (like Deterministic Turing machine) are much more useable (Thx for the discussion before).
So I think, it's rational to move Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM (motorsport). And in the next step a redirection from Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM (motorsport) is correct anytime. Of course I'll relink the linked articles completly... Pitlane02 talk 08:02, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Uh, what? The first sentence isn't true and the second sentence is nonsensical. Jamieli ( talk) 13:59, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Given that the DTM Trophy is a new part of the DTM umbrella, should there be a new section mentioning it with a creation of a new article about the DTM Trophy as its own competition? - Dh16dh ( talk) 23:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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Shouldnt the links to the cars represented by each manufacturer be links to the actual dtm cars and not the roadgoing versions. Michaeljuan ( talk) 03:06, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
I have provisionally opted to list the number of drivers in terms of the number of seats available (20) rather than include the three replacement drivers that occupied the no.19 TME entry. If you disagree with this, please contribute to the relevant discussion at WP:MOTOR. Once the 2007 season entry list has been confirmed, these figures should be updated accordingly. - Adrian M. H. 18:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Could someone add a section for the current specifications of the cars? To save time, you can just fill this out:
I could make that a formal table, but I'd like to keep it flexible. Mustang6172 01:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I created the Categories for DTM circuits-- Cheetaih ( talk) 11:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
There seem to be some fundamental errors in the statistical information presented here. Both the Teams and Makes champions are claimed to be Mercedes-Benz, and yet Mercedes-benz do not run any teams themselves. According to the Mercedes-AMG article, HWA GmbH (no article) run some or all of the DTM Mercedes-Benzes. The DTM website list the teams champion as Salzgitter / Mercedes-Benz Bank, presumably the commercial, sponsored identity of the team. There is also no makes champion listed there.
Reflecting this, I've changed the teams champion, to reflect information on the DTM website, and removed the apparently non-existent makes champion.
Also - the champions table further down the page list manufacturers under the team's championship section, this is obviously false, and I intend to remove the teams championship section entirely until clarification can be sought, but not immediately so as to give the relevant knowledgeables time to respond. -- Falcadore ( talk) 02:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
What I do know is HWA AG builds and maintains the Mercedes' that are entered in the DTM series on behalf of AMG and Mercedes-Benz. Team HWA, HWA AG's official team, is considered a "works team". They maintain a four-car team using the latest variation and have always functioned like this, while the "privateer teams" such as Persson Motorsport and Mucke Motorsport have purchased HWA's year-old models. So yes, every Mercedes on the grid has been built by HWA and in fact raced by them. But it gets tricky because no more than two of HWA's cars have ever run under the same sponsorship, but they are team-mates as they race out of the same factory. I'm guessing it's just like NASCAR, one workship builds and runs multiple cars but they are subdivided into "teams" within a team. Thesmartstag ( talk) 22:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
...is now Susie Wolff. I dont know how to change the link, the article about her person is already correct, it only needs to be linked properly. And Im missing the skills... 128.176.12.241 ( talk) 15:33, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I trimmed the champions table back for a few reasons. Firstly, Wikipedia standard for these things is the champion, not top three. There is individual articles on each season, so there is no danger of the information being lost. People do not typically search for a list of championship second and third places. If they did, there are the individual season articles.
There are many many links thoughout the article indicating Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft is covered by a separate article. It is not necessary to add this in the champion table as well. Unneccessary duplication, particularly when the first instance it is bolded right at the top of the article. There is very little chance of the links being missed. Also the series name is identical in each instance, so why have that column at all, it is superfluous. -- Falcadore ( talk) 02:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move. Pitlane02 talk 07:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
– Since 2006 the ITR and the DMSB, and of course the DTM himself, called the series only DTM, not as an abbreviation, more as a trademark. [1] [2]. The reason is very easy, today NO touring cars are running in this series, the cars are prototype cars and the silhouettes are like coupes!
And in the next step a redirection from Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM is correct anytime, but the redirection from the disambiguation page DTM to Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters is only correct before 2006.
So I think, it's rational to move DTM to DTM (disambiguation) and Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM. Of course I'll relink the linked articles completly... Regards Pitlane02 talk 14:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I am grateful for your answers, Thx -- Pitlane02 talk 07:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not done. Nathan Johnson ( talk) 17:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters →
DTM (motorsport) – The lemma is WRONG since 2006. Since 2006 the ITR and the
DMSB, and of course the DTM himself, called the series only DTM, NOT as an abbreviation, more as a trademark.
[8]
[9]
[10]. The reason is very easy, today NO touring cars are running in this series, the cars are prototype cars and the silhouettes are like coupes!
A movement to DTM make no sense, because other terms (like Deterministic Turing machine) are much more useable (Thx for the discussion before).
So I think, it's rational to move Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM (motorsport). And in the next step a redirection from Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters to DTM (motorsport) is correct anytime. Of course I'll relink the linked articles completly... Pitlane02 talk 08:02, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Uh, what? The first sentence isn't true and the second sentence is nonsensical. Jamieli ( talk) 13:59, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Given that the DTM Trophy is a new part of the DTM umbrella, should there be a new section mentioning it with a creation of a new article about the DTM Trophy as its own competition? - Dh16dh ( talk) 23:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)