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This article is fucking retarded. Explanations on time fuse? This is an encyclopedia, not a goddamn how-to. If you need to resort to Wikipedia to tell you how to cut your time fuse, you are fucked up and probably don't belong anywhere near explosives.
I have cut down trees with detcord. Unless "higher yield" means about as thick as a sausage, this is far too little. Cutting trees with detcord is very uneconomical and time consuming compared to using bulk explosives or even a chainsaw.
Could some of these uses actually be refering to some other form of line charge, such as Royal Ordnance Blade(Fowler, Will. Greenhill Military Manuals: Arms and Equipmet of Special Forces. Greenhill Books, London. 1996 pg 60-61). This is a line charge designed to cut through the material it is attached to. BTW, what is the prefered citiation format here on Wiki? Nkuzmik 02:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I am also extremely doubtful about some of the "unconventional uses" listed:
Ah, the weaselly "reported to". Can anyone find a cite for this? Quite apart from probably being a war crime, it doesn't make much sense; anyone possessing significant amounts of detcord is very likely to also have quite a bit of tape even if they have no cord or rope; and a prisoner with explosives attached is far more likely to assume the worst and try something desperate. And if they do escape you've already provided them with a weapon! (Also you don't generally use handcuffs to secure prisoners of war; the system will evacuate them to the rear and you'll never see your $30 handcuffs again.)
Not sure who's argument I'm helping, but I saw det cord used for prisoner restraint in an old issue of Marvel Comics' Punisher. I can't recall the issue number but I still have it around someplace. If you really want, I can look for it. Nkuzmik 02:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
](Roger Henry 2 April 09)]
Again, cite please. A firebreak needs to be an absolute minimum of 4 m wide to stop a fire in light grassland and light wind when the line is continuously manned. It would take an enormous amount of detcord to blow a firebreak that size—and that's a minimum, as soon as you get high winds even a 40 m break needs continuous manning. The normal process is to use a grader or bulldozer (or a plough, in grassland) to cut two strips 3 to 4m wide about 40 to 100m apart, then controlled backburn the land between the two strips, preferably at night if time permits. That gives you a 40 ~ 100 m wide break cheaply, safely, at about 6 km/h (multiplied by the number of graders available.)
http://slurryexplosives.com/UploadedFiles/TDS/Detagel%20Presplit%20v6.pdf this is the type of product used to make firebreaks not detcord itself the to clear a largenough area you would need ungodly amounts of detcord at the highest grains per foot. (HMF)
Well that's extraordinary. Why are the non-native species more vulnerable? What if the native fish are close to the cord while the non-native fish are hiding on the bottom? Why would detcord be more useful here than a simple charge? I'm not saying this is untrue but again a cite would be useful, as well as some explanation as to how it works.
Det cord is more commonly used as a fish sampling technique than as a method of eradication. For example, det cord has been used in Florida lakes by fisheries biologists as a sampling method. Det cord is used because it can be placed over a known area and then detonated from a safe distance. Once detonated, the fish can be collected. If the goal is to remove fish from a large area or an entire body of water, then a piscicide such as rotenone would be more practical. I learned of this particular application for det cord from conversations with Florida fisheries biologists who have experience with this technique.
All oil well shooting I've heard of uses bulk HE, compressed fuel/oxygen mixes, or specialised shaped charges. Is it claimed here that detcord is used to downlink to the charge (in which case it is not really a separate "unusual use") or as the charge--in which case: cite?
>>The application listed above, is actually somewhat correct. If while drilling an oilwell, your drill pipe becomes stuck in mud/sand, you can apply a small amount of reverse torque to your drill string, and detonate a string of det-cord wrapped around a small mandrel. This shocks the tool joint that you want to seperate, and will allow you to unscrew your drill string at a predetermined location above the free point( point at which the drill pipe is stuck) and you can remove your drill string, and later run fishing tools into the well. This application is called a string shot. -William Gray CPCI Corpus Christi <<
You have to be kidding!? Cite?
If you only mean connecting multiple clearance charges together, this doesn't really count as a separate usage. If you mean using the detcord as the clearance charge: cite? Securiger 15:45, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Detcord CAN be used for tenderising meat, it was a general explosives excercise, something about the shockwaves themselves doing the tenderising.
"It has been used to clear brush to effectively stop the progression of forest fires."
cite: "Glossary of Wildland Fire Terminology" published by the National Wildfire Coordinating Group http://www.nwcg.gov/pms/pubs/glossary/F.htm#Fire%20Regime "Fireline Explosives (FLE): Specially developed coils containing explosive powder that are detonated to create a fireline through ground fuels."
What's the judge of unconventional? The typical use for an explosive is to ... well, blow things up, but there are some pretty inventive uses, I'll admit. But what makes using it to, say, carve rock unconventional? You'd think that'd be almost tailor-made for the task. IL-Kuma 04:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
"Det cord can be taped in several rings, to the outline of a military man-sized target and detonated, breaching a man-sized hole into wooden doors or light interior walls."
This is preposterous on its face. Who's going to waste time taping det cord to the outline? Just go up the one side, across the top, and down the other. BANG, and you're through. The freakin' DOOR is man sized already! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.255.51 ( talk) 03:10, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
This is not preposterous, this is called an oval charge and you can verify this by searching by name, or for the Marine Corps UMBC Card, or if you need the official publication it is FM 5-250 (demolitions and military explosives). But it is used for creating a hole in a wall (concrete reinforced or not, or any wooden interior or exterior wall) and through roofs; just with varying amounts of det cord. As a sapper, or combat engineer if you will, I can tell you that we do not always use the door, because that is where the enemy is watching. In fact we will do almost anything to avoid coming through the door. —Preceding unsigned comment added by USMC8541 ( talk • contribs) 16:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
seconding this statement detcord is used as a breech to enter building through walls or roofs. (HMF)
I was having a conversation about this and the first thing we thought about was the legality of purchasing/owning. I couldn't seem to find any information anywhere except for one distributors terms for sale and feel like this may be something that should be added to more pyrotechnic related pages. What does everyone else think about adding a section like this to the article?? I would be happy to do the digging if people thing it may be of use. Ginoclement ( talk) 09:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
The first paragraph says "approximately 6400 m/s", while the "Effects" section says "7,000-8,000 m/s". Anyone got some test samples and a phantom camera? Or some really, really long test samples and a normal camera?
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This article is fucking retarded. Explanations on time fuse? This is an encyclopedia, not a goddamn how-to. If you need to resort to Wikipedia to tell you how to cut your time fuse, you are fucked up and probably don't belong anywhere near explosives.
I have cut down trees with detcord. Unless "higher yield" means about as thick as a sausage, this is far too little. Cutting trees with detcord is very uneconomical and time consuming compared to using bulk explosives or even a chainsaw.
Could some of these uses actually be refering to some other form of line charge, such as Royal Ordnance Blade(Fowler, Will. Greenhill Military Manuals: Arms and Equipmet of Special Forces. Greenhill Books, London. 1996 pg 60-61). This is a line charge designed to cut through the material it is attached to. BTW, what is the prefered citiation format here on Wiki? Nkuzmik 02:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I am also extremely doubtful about some of the "unconventional uses" listed:
Ah, the weaselly "reported to". Can anyone find a cite for this? Quite apart from probably being a war crime, it doesn't make much sense; anyone possessing significant amounts of detcord is very likely to also have quite a bit of tape even if they have no cord or rope; and a prisoner with explosives attached is far more likely to assume the worst and try something desperate. And if they do escape you've already provided them with a weapon! (Also you don't generally use handcuffs to secure prisoners of war; the system will evacuate them to the rear and you'll never see your $30 handcuffs again.)
Not sure who's argument I'm helping, but I saw det cord used for prisoner restraint in an old issue of Marvel Comics' Punisher. I can't recall the issue number but I still have it around someplace. If you really want, I can look for it. Nkuzmik 02:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
](Roger Henry 2 April 09)]
Again, cite please. A firebreak needs to be an absolute minimum of 4 m wide to stop a fire in light grassland and light wind when the line is continuously manned. It would take an enormous amount of detcord to blow a firebreak that size—and that's a minimum, as soon as you get high winds even a 40 m break needs continuous manning. The normal process is to use a grader or bulldozer (or a plough, in grassland) to cut two strips 3 to 4m wide about 40 to 100m apart, then controlled backburn the land between the two strips, preferably at night if time permits. That gives you a 40 ~ 100 m wide break cheaply, safely, at about 6 km/h (multiplied by the number of graders available.)
http://slurryexplosives.com/UploadedFiles/TDS/Detagel%20Presplit%20v6.pdf this is the type of product used to make firebreaks not detcord itself the to clear a largenough area you would need ungodly amounts of detcord at the highest grains per foot. (HMF)
Well that's extraordinary. Why are the non-native species more vulnerable? What if the native fish are close to the cord while the non-native fish are hiding on the bottom? Why would detcord be more useful here than a simple charge? I'm not saying this is untrue but again a cite would be useful, as well as some explanation as to how it works.
Det cord is more commonly used as a fish sampling technique than as a method of eradication. For example, det cord has been used in Florida lakes by fisheries biologists as a sampling method. Det cord is used because it can be placed over a known area and then detonated from a safe distance. Once detonated, the fish can be collected. If the goal is to remove fish from a large area or an entire body of water, then a piscicide such as rotenone would be more practical. I learned of this particular application for det cord from conversations with Florida fisheries biologists who have experience with this technique.
All oil well shooting I've heard of uses bulk HE, compressed fuel/oxygen mixes, or specialised shaped charges. Is it claimed here that detcord is used to downlink to the charge (in which case it is not really a separate "unusual use") or as the charge--in which case: cite?
>>The application listed above, is actually somewhat correct. If while drilling an oilwell, your drill pipe becomes stuck in mud/sand, you can apply a small amount of reverse torque to your drill string, and detonate a string of det-cord wrapped around a small mandrel. This shocks the tool joint that you want to seperate, and will allow you to unscrew your drill string at a predetermined location above the free point( point at which the drill pipe is stuck) and you can remove your drill string, and later run fishing tools into the well. This application is called a string shot. -William Gray CPCI Corpus Christi <<
You have to be kidding!? Cite?
If you only mean connecting multiple clearance charges together, this doesn't really count as a separate usage. If you mean using the detcord as the clearance charge: cite? Securiger 15:45, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Detcord CAN be used for tenderising meat, it was a general explosives excercise, something about the shockwaves themselves doing the tenderising.
"It has been used to clear brush to effectively stop the progression of forest fires."
cite: "Glossary of Wildland Fire Terminology" published by the National Wildfire Coordinating Group http://www.nwcg.gov/pms/pubs/glossary/F.htm#Fire%20Regime "Fireline Explosives (FLE): Specially developed coils containing explosive powder that are detonated to create a fireline through ground fuels."
What's the judge of unconventional? The typical use for an explosive is to ... well, blow things up, but there are some pretty inventive uses, I'll admit. But what makes using it to, say, carve rock unconventional? You'd think that'd be almost tailor-made for the task. IL-Kuma 04:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
"Det cord can be taped in several rings, to the outline of a military man-sized target and detonated, breaching a man-sized hole into wooden doors or light interior walls."
This is preposterous on its face. Who's going to waste time taping det cord to the outline? Just go up the one side, across the top, and down the other. BANG, and you're through. The freakin' DOOR is man sized already! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.255.51 ( talk) 03:10, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
This is not preposterous, this is called an oval charge and you can verify this by searching by name, or for the Marine Corps UMBC Card, or if you need the official publication it is FM 5-250 (demolitions and military explosives). But it is used for creating a hole in a wall (concrete reinforced or not, or any wooden interior or exterior wall) and through roofs; just with varying amounts of det cord. As a sapper, or combat engineer if you will, I can tell you that we do not always use the door, because that is where the enemy is watching. In fact we will do almost anything to avoid coming through the door. —Preceding unsigned comment added by USMC8541 ( talk • contribs) 16:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
seconding this statement detcord is used as a breech to enter building through walls or roofs. (HMF)
I was having a conversation about this and the first thing we thought about was the legality of purchasing/owning. I couldn't seem to find any information anywhere except for one distributors terms for sale and feel like this may be something that should be added to more pyrotechnic related pages. What does everyone else think about adding a section like this to the article?? I would be happy to do the digging if people thing it may be of use. Ginoclement ( talk) 09:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
The first paragraph says "approximately 6400 m/s", while the "Effects" section says "7,000-8,000 m/s". Anyone got some test samples and a phantom camera? Or some really, really long test samples and a normal camera?