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Reviewer: MWright96 ( talk · contribs) 08:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Will be taking on his review as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 08:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Am going to put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address/query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 12:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
@ MWright96: All comments have been addressed. Sportzeditz ( talk) 15:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
It is wrong to add the "free agent" title to him, as the 2020 NBA draft he declared to attend didn't happen yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1480:47A0:6053:7B8E:3B1:E822 ( talk) 18:58, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
According to the contract, he has an exit option to the NBA and Maccabi allowed him to train for the draft, but he is still under contract and if he does not Selected in the draft then he is committed to Maccabi and if He was selected for the draft Maccabi will receive compensation for him. שי אוזן ( talk) 21:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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Change ethnicity from Israeli-Serb to Israeli-Kosovar 100.37.38.174 ( talk) 01:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
He is a Serbian citizen, not "Kosovar". Elserbio00 ( talk) 09:42, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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17:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)The Wizards have announced on social media that Avdija has chosen his number to be 9, rather than 44 as he wanted in the first place. BasketballFan411 ( talk) 19:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC) Source
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Change No. 44 to No. 9 89.237.98.30 ( talk) 20:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Good Day,
I came across this Article about Deni Avdija and got interested into reading it. While doing so, I found a quiet controversial part in the "Personal Life" section.
"In the 2020 NBA draft interview, Avdija stated that his father is from Kosovo, Serbia, appearing with an Israel–Serbia flags pin on the lapel of his suit jacket."
The subject about the Status of Kosovo (see Recognition of Kosovo) is a controversial topic and should not have a place in a Neutral minded Wikipedia.
Please share you view about it.
@ User:Pipsally Do you might want to participate?
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 19:04, 26 July 2021 (UTC) People are allowed to hold controversial views. Wikipedia can acknowledge that they do it there is a reliable source. It seems that Avdija believes Kosovo is part of Serbia, and has made a public demonstration of that. Nothing in this means that because there is well documented controversy about the status of Kosovo then we should not public figure s making overt statements about their beliefs. Pipsally ( talk) 19:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
"People are allowed to hold controversial views"
-Indeed they are. But those "controversial views" shouldnt be reflected thru Wikipedia.
I dont have anything against his Point of View. I am just looking forward, that Wikipedia stays as neutral on the topic as possible.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 19:36, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Nobody claimed such.
It is Wikipedia reflecting his opinion. Which is not neutral, but controversial.
Wikipedia has to stay neutral on the Topic.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 19:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@ InNeed95: There is nothing wrong with the paragraph. The paragraph is simply quoting what Avdija said. Elserbio00 ( talk) 19:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@ Elserbio00: How so? You seem to ignore my comments. Please read them again, than you will surely understand the problem. I will just guess because of your revision history and your name, that you support his view point (if not true, ignore my comment), which I of course respect, but such a view point is quiet controversial because many have other thoughts and might feel offended thru it. So such controversial views shouldnt be reflected thru wikipedia. Wikipedia is a neutral information giver.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 20:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@
Pipsally:
The Problem is not about his Badge. Its about claiming Kosovo as Serbian. Which is a controversial topic (see Recognition of Kosovo).
We can let the part about his Badge in. I have no reason to be against it. (I am sorry for the misunderstanding. It seems like I copied to much.)
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 20:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@
Elserbio00: Answer respected. May stay as it is. I am not looking forward a Edit-War, which
User:Pipsally would gladly start.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 16:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
It's not perfect, I think the personal life and early life sections have some duplication, but...there are a lot of ways I think this article could have spiralled out into hotly-contested drivel, and instead it's a strong article. Kudos to those involved. Babajobu ( talk) 14:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Deni Avdija has been listed as one of the
Sports and recreation good articles under the
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please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
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Reviewer: MWright96 ( talk · contribs) 08:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Will be taking on his review as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 08:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Am going to put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address/query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 12:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
@ MWright96: All comments have been addressed. Sportzeditz ( talk) 15:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
It is wrong to add the "free agent" title to him, as the 2020 NBA draft he declared to attend didn't happen yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1480:47A0:6053:7B8E:3B1:E822 ( talk) 18:58, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
According to the contract, he has an exit option to the NBA and Maccabi allowed him to train for the draft, but he is still under contract and if he does not Selected in the draft then he is committed to Maccabi and if He was selected for the draft Maccabi will receive compensation for him. שי אוזן ( talk) 21:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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Change ethnicity from Israeli-Serb to Israeli-Kosovar 100.37.38.174 ( talk) 01:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
He is a Serbian citizen, not "Kosovar". Elserbio00 ( talk) 09:42, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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17:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)The Wizards have announced on social media that Avdija has chosen his number to be 9, rather than 44 as he wanted in the first place. BasketballFan411 ( talk) 19:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC) Source
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Change No. 44 to No. 9 89.237.98.30 ( talk) 20:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Good Day,
I came across this Article about Deni Avdija and got interested into reading it. While doing so, I found a quiet controversial part in the "Personal Life" section.
"In the 2020 NBA draft interview, Avdija stated that his father is from Kosovo, Serbia, appearing with an Israel–Serbia flags pin on the lapel of his suit jacket."
The subject about the Status of Kosovo (see Recognition of Kosovo) is a controversial topic and should not have a place in a Neutral minded Wikipedia.
Please share you view about it.
@ User:Pipsally Do you might want to participate?
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 19:04, 26 July 2021 (UTC) People are allowed to hold controversial views. Wikipedia can acknowledge that they do it there is a reliable source. It seems that Avdija believes Kosovo is part of Serbia, and has made a public demonstration of that. Nothing in this means that because there is well documented controversy about the status of Kosovo then we should not public figure s making overt statements about their beliefs. Pipsally ( talk) 19:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
"People are allowed to hold controversial views"
-Indeed they are. But those "controversial views" shouldnt be reflected thru Wikipedia.
I dont have anything against his Point of View. I am just looking forward, that Wikipedia stays as neutral on the topic as possible.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 19:36, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Nobody claimed such.
It is Wikipedia reflecting his opinion. Which is not neutral, but controversial.
Wikipedia has to stay neutral on the Topic.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 19:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@ InNeed95: There is nothing wrong with the paragraph. The paragraph is simply quoting what Avdija said. Elserbio00 ( talk) 19:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@ Elserbio00: How so? You seem to ignore my comments. Please read them again, than you will surely understand the problem. I will just guess because of your revision history and your name, that you support his view point (if not true, ignore my comment), which I of course respect, but such a view point is quiet controversial because many have other thoughts and might feel offended thru it. So such controversial views shouldnt be reflected thru wikipedia. Wikipedia is a neutral information giver.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 20:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@
Pipsally:
The Problem is not about his Badge. Its about claiming Kosovo as Serbian. Which is a controversial topic (see Recognition of Kosovo).
We can let the part about his Badge in. I have no reason to be against it. (I am sorry for the misunderstanding. It seems like I copied to much.)
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 20:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
@
Elserbio00: Answer respected. May stay as it is. I am not looking forward a Edit-War, which
User:Pipsally would gladly start.
-- InNeed95 ( talk) 16:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
It's not perfect, I think the personal life and early life sections have some duplication, but...there are a lot of ways I think this article could have spiralled out into hotly-contested drivel, and instead it's a strong article. Kudos to those involved. Babajobu ( talk) 14:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)