![]() | This article is rated Stub-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||
|
Requesting deletion of "Delta International University of New Orleans" article.
The reasons for this request is that the article negatively affects our image. Many of our students are from African countries. When they read the article about having "unrecognized accreditation" many students interpret this to mean that they are not legal degrees.
We are requesting to have the entire article deleted at this time.
Officemanagermic ( talk) 18:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
In looking at Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=9270+Siegen+Lane,+Baton+Rouge,+Louisiana,+USA+70810&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=9270+Siegen+Ln,+Baton+Rouge,+LA+70810&gl=us&ei=qtisTMLjO5CosQPCu_SIDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA the address listed in the catalog shows business buildings -- no actual college campus. In reviewing the DIU catalog, there is frequent mention of campus classes, but now where else is there a listing of classes actually given on campus. Accordingly, I've deleted references to the school as having a campus.-- S. Rich ( talk) 20:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The website for the IADL ( http://www.iadl.org.uk/index.htm) says schools receiving it's accreditation logo must be accredited by a national or international body ( http://www.iadl.org.uk/accredited_members.htm). Further, it gives a reference to the International Association of Universities ( http://www.iau-aiu.net/) and says that schools not recognized by the AIU are "not normally be considered for Accredited Membership of the IADL." From what I see, DIU does not have recognition or accreditation from any national or international legal body.-- S. Rich ( talk) 20:36, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The information on this page is incomplete. However, when I try to edit to update the information and add factual content, it is immediately deleted. The information I included comes from verifiable sources and meets all Wikipedia editing guidelines. This leaves me wondering about the affiliations of the individuals deleting the information. In researching the history of this page, it seems like there may be some conflict of interest issues that need to be addressed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TornadoThunder ( talk • contribs) 16:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The following appeared on Radio-Canada's site today, original (en français) here: http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2012/02/29/005-management-institute-canada.shtml
More about MIC:
Alain Hoodashtian, has received a full support from the Quebec Government, the Ministry of Education, for the Management Institute of Canada (MIC) by a letter which has been received at MIC in January 2013. Radio Canada has diffused a program in March 2012, indicating that MIC is an "unrecognized School in Canada", having educational operations which are not conforming to the rules and regulations of the Quebec Ministry of Education. http://www.delta-university.org/?P=formic
The supporting letter from the Quebec Ministry of Education attests that MIC is a recognized School in Quebec and the educational operations of MIC are conforming to the rules and regulations of the Ministry. The letter states clearly that MIC continues its activity in "all legality" in Quebec. http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2012/02/29/005-management-institute-canada.shtml#!
Please see the official Approval of MIC by the Quebec Ministry of Education: http://www.delta-university.org/?P=formic
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please remove {{Multiple issues|notability =May 2010|refimprove =May 2010}} as the Radio-Canada piece establishes notability and is WP:RS that at least the Montréal operation is not accredited. -- 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 04:28, 4 March 2012 (UTC) 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 04:28, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
MIC *is* just a front for this outfit, basically a sales office, per the Radio-Canada piece. If MIC is notable (as it must be if it's being reported upon on national television as hard news) and MIC is *only* a front for DIU, that does confer notability (not credibility, alas, just notability) on the whole DIU mess. The converse is not necessarily true (DIU being notable would not in and of itself make MIC noteworthy, although it would be a contributing factor). -- 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 01:56, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
MIC has no existence independent of DIU. If it did, then notability would be independent of that of the parent entity. -- 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 16:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
ABOUT DIU:
The Report of Radio Canada about MIC in Canada, seems having no relation with DIU is the USA. As far as we can see in their website, DIU is a recognized university: http://www.delta-university.org/?P=about_approval
By the way, MIC is also a recognized entity in Quebec, but for non-Degree programs. They can operate, but cannot deliver university degrees. See their approval: http://www.micanada.org/images/Certificat%20d'agrement%20MIC%202011-2013.jpg
And this: http://www.micanada.org/?P=accreditation
MIC says they do not offer degree or university programs anymore. See the first page of their website: http://www.micanada.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brigittedepuis ( talk • contribs) 15:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
[Redacted possible CV]
It has been said in its Website:
http://www.delta-university.org/?P=accreditation
DIU Approval has been received in 2009, and it goes up to June 2012, and DIU, for a period of 2 up to 3 years, is obliged to apply for Accreditation from a US State Recognized Accrediting Body. If there is a delay, the Approval could be renewed, only under certain valid reasons and conditions.
Once the Accreditation is received, the Institution could then apply to receive a "edu", for its Website, and not before. Before receiving Accreditation, the Institution is considered as Recognized, but not Accredited. This is the case of DIU.
Brigitte Depuis
DIU ACCREDITATION PROCESS:
To receive Accreditation in the USA, an Approved and Licensed Institution should market, recruit, teach and organize courses and issue Degrees, for a period of 2 up to 3 years. This is the first condition to apply for Accreditation. You can read this on the website of all State Recognized Accrediting Organizations in the USA, as ACICS or DETC. Please see their requirements here: http://www.acics.org/publications/criteria.aspx and see item number 1-2-100 - MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
An Institution, once it is approved by a State, should teach and issue Degrees BEFORE applying for Accreditation, and this is the Condition for Accreditation.
This regulation is different from Canada, and the example of ‘Ryerson University’ in Toronto cannot be used for DIU.
In the USA, a non-accrediting Institution can operate legally if (and only if), once Approved by a State, the Institution shows to the State, it is in the process of Accreditation and makes real efforts to organize the university regulations and policies accordingly. This is the case of DIU.
The first request from the State of Louisiana (Board of Regents) was that Delta International University must get into the process of Accreditation from a State recognized Accrediting body. And DIU has started this long process since 2009. This information is shown in this page:
http://www.delta-university.org/?P=accreditation
This is why DIU continues to operate legally and students apply at DIU and companies, organizations, including ‘the Australian Council or Private Education and Training (ACPET)’ (
http://www.acpet.edu.au/about-acpet/about-acpet) send students to DIU, please see this page:
http://www.delta-university.org/?P=students_australia
Mark — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Markedith (
talk •
contribs)
03:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
A sockpuppetry case has been opened regarding the whitewashing of this article. See here. OlYeller21 Talktome 18:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This article is rated Stub-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||
|
Requesting deletion of "Delta International University of New Orleans" article.
The reasons for this request is that the article negatively affects our image. Many of our students are from African countries. When they read the article about having "unrecognized accreditation" many students interpret this to mean that they are not legal degrees.
We are requesting to have the entire article deleted at this time.
Officemanagermic ( talk) 18:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
In looking at Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=9270+Siegen+Lane,+Baton+Rouge,+Louisiana,+USA+70810&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=9270+Siegen+Ln,+Baton+Rouge,+LA+70810&gl=us&ei=qtisTMLjO5CosQPCu_SIDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA the address listed in the catalog shows business buildings -- no actual college campus. In reviewing the DIU catalog, there is frequent mention of campus classes, but now where else is there a listing of classes actually given on campus. Accordingly, I've deleted references to the school as having a campus.-- S. Rich ( talk) 20:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The website for the IADL ( http://www.iadl.org.uk/index.htm) says schools receiving it's accreditation logo must be accredited by a national or international body ( http://www.iadl.org.uk/accredited_members.htm). Further, it gives a reference to the International Association of Universities ( http://www.iau-aiu.net/) and says that schools not recognized by the AIU are "not normally be considered for Accredited Membership of the IADL." From what I see, DIU does not have recognition or accreditation from any national or international legal body.-- S. Rich ( talk) 20:36, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The information on this page is incomplete. However, when I try to edit to update the information and add factual content, it is immediately deleted. The information I included comes from verifiable sources and meets all Wikipedia editing guidelines. This leaves me wondering about the affiliations of the individuals deleting the information. In researching the history of this page, it seems like there may be some conflict of interest issues that need to be addressed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TornadoThunder ( talk • contribs) 16:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The following appeared on Radio-Canada's site today, original (en français) here: http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2012/02/29/005-management-institute-canada.shtml
More about MIC:
Alain Hoodashtian, has received a full support from the Quebec Government, the Ministry of Education, for the Management Institute of Canada (MIC) by a letter which has been received at MIC in January 2013. Radio Canada has diffused a program in March 2012, indicating that MIC is an "unrecognized School in Canada", having educational operations which are not conforming to the rules and regulations of the Quebec Ministry of Education. http://www.delta-university.org/?P=formic
The supporting letter from the Quebec Ministry of Education attests that MIC is a recognized School in Quebec and the educational operations of MIC are conforming to the rules and regulations of the Ministry. The letter states clearly that MIC continues its activity in "all legality" in Quebec. http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2012/02/29/005-management-institute-canada.shtml#!
Please see the official Approval of MIC by the Quebec Ministry of Education: http://www.delta-university.org/?P=formic
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please remove {{Multiple issues|notability =May 2010|refimprove =May 2010}} as the Radio-Canada piece establishes notability and is WP:RS that at least the Montréal operation is not accredited. -- 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 04:28, 4 March 2012 (UTC) 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 04:28, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
MIC *is* just a front for this outfit, basically a sales office, per the Radio-Canada piece. If MIC is notable (as it must be if it's being reported upon on national television as hard news) and MIC is *only* a front for DIU, that does confer notability (not credibility, alas, just notability) on the whole DIU mess. The converse is not necessarily true (DIU being notable would not in and of itself make MIC noteworthy, although it would be a contributing factor). -- 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 01:56, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
MIC has no existence independent of DIU. If it did, then notability would be independent of that of the parent entity. -- 66.102.83.61 ( talk) 16:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
ABOUT DIU:
The Report of Radio Canada about MIC in Canada, seems having no relation with DIU is the USA. As far as we can see in their website, DIU is a recognized university: http://www.delta-university.org/?P=about_approval
By the way, MIC is also a recognized entity in Quebec, but for non-Degree programs. They can operate, but cannot deliver university degrees. See their approval: http://www.micanada.org/images/Certificat%20d'agrement%20MIC%202011-2013.jpg
And this: http://www.micanada.org/?P=accreditation
MIC says they do not offer degree or university programs anymore. See the first page of their website: http://www.micanada.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brigittedepuis ( talk • contribs) 15:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
[Redacted possible CV]
It has been said in its Website:
http://www.delta-university.org/?P=accreditation
DIU Approval has been received in 2009, and it goes up to June 2012, and DIU, for a period of 2 up to 3 years, is obliged to apply for Accreditation from a US State Recognized Accrediting Body. If there is a delay, the Approval could be renewed, only under certain valid reasons and conditions.
Once the Accreditation is received, the Institution could then apply to receive a "edu", for its Website, and not before. Before receiving Accreditation, the Institution is considered as Recognized, but not Accredited. This is the case of DIU.
Brigitte Depuis
DIU ACCREDITATION PROCESS:
To receive Accreditation in the USA, an Approved and Licensed Institution should market, recruit, teach and organize courses and issue Degrees, for a period of 2 up to 3 years. This is the first condition to apply for Accreditation. You can read this on the website of all State Recognized Accrediting Organizations in the USA, as ACICS or DETC. Please see their requirements here: http://www.acics.org/publications/criteria.aspx and see item number 1-2-100 - MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
An Institution, once it is approved by a State, should teach and issue Degrees BEFORE applying for Accreditation, and this is the Condition for Accreditation.
This regulation is different from Canada, and the example of ‘Ryerson University’ in Toronto cannot be used for DIU.
In the USA, a non-accrediting Institution can operate legally if (and only if), once Approved by a State, the Institution shows to the State, it is in the process of Accreditation and makes real efforts to organize the university regulations and policies accordingly. This is the case of DIU.
The first request from the State of Louisiana (Board of Regents) was that Delta International University must get into the process of Accreditation from a State recognized Accrediting body. And DIU has started this long process since 2009. This information is shown in this page:
http://www.delta-university.org/?P=accreditation
This is why DIU continues to operate legally and students apply at DIU and companies, organizations, including ‘the Australian Council or Private Education and Training (ACPET)’ (
http://www.acpet.edu.au/about-acpet/about-acpet) send students to DIU, please see this page:
http://www.delta-university.org/?P=students_australia
Mark — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Markedith (
talk •
contribs)
03:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
A sockpuppetry case has been opened regarding the whitewashing of this article. See here. OlYeller21 Talktome 18:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)