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"It is known that the deep-fried Mars Bar was preceded by the deep-fried pizza. It was common practice in Angus to deep fry frozen pizza from as early as 1980." This was changed on 21 February 2006 by Mais oui! to Angus from the previous "east of dundee". It was originally posted by an anonymous user on 18 July 2005. It's been on here for 4 years now, uncited, and is now being copied all over the Internet. It's prolly well time that the assertion be backed up, or dropped. It's already been disputed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Deep-fried_Mars_Bar#Odd.2C_possibly_illogical_sentence
But I'll leave it to someone more intimately involved with this piece to make the call as to which way to go. My instinct is to flee whenever a sentence starts with, "it is known" :} Randal Oulton ( talk) 16:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the recipe only calls for one tablespoon of oil... Wouldn't deep frying a chocolate bar require a lot more oil, enough to completely submerge it? -- Arteitle 09:54, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
This should be moved to Deep fried Mars Bar with a capital B. Exploding Boy June 29, 2005 22:23 (UTC)
It should be noted that very few people in Scotland have ever tried one and, apart from the Royal Mile in Edinburgh where they are sold to gullible tourists, you would be hard pressed to find a fish and chip shop that actually sells them (the danger is it will melt and spoil the oil). The Lancet 'study' quoted on the article is probably apocryphal (click on the link and it takes you to the Lancet wiki page, not the 'study' itself). It's largely an urban myth that these are a delicacy north of the border. Now deep fried pizza, that's a different matter altogether... MyThoughtsExactly ( talk) 20:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC) There is a mention of this at bondisurfseafood.com.au, where they say Mars actually authorised them to sell these after satisfactory tests, and I recall it was reported in the local newspaper. Signed JohnsonL623 ( talk) 12:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
The recipe is already on wikibooks cookbook, shouldn't we remove it from here? - Joolz 11:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, but we're going to need to see a citation on this. Remember, no original research. ProhibitOnions 00:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC) (Yes, I have eaten one, in Birmingham, not in Scotland.)
I'll put the tag here for now:
{{ unreferenced}}
For a possible origin, check Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. There's a mention there of cooking Mars bars, but I can't remember whether the cook recommends frying or baking. The mention is toward the end, when the president decides to invite the characters to the White House. Gazpacho 09:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, I don't know Brian MacDoanld, but I have met the girl who was working in the chipper who actually deep-fried the thing for him. It's fairly common knowledge in Stonehaven. Maybe if someone emailed a local history association or something a citation could be got hold of. 195.62.204.75 11:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
There's a lot of annecdotal evidence that casts doubt on the Scottish claim. Personally, I distinctly remember that when I moved to Leeds (West Yorkshire), my mother (who was already living there) pointed out a fish and chip that did DFMBs the first time we went round the city centre together. This was in April 1984. There are claims that it originated in Hull, but the trick would be finding a printed reference to them pre-dating the 1995 Scottish ones. Nick Cooper 16:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Sadly I have no written proof of DFMB, but the first and only time I came across them was when working In Edinburgh in the mid 1980's (1982..1987). A colleague of mine came from Glasgow, and knew all about them, had them when he was a child (late 60's & 70's) but claimed that they (Graham and his wife) preferred a microwaved mars bar sandwich. The date would probably be around 1983..4. Another colleague from Ayrshire confirmed that the DFMB was popular where she came from.
I'm sure they are an Australian invention. In 1981 there was an Australian TV series "Ratbags" and John Derum presented a regular "Cooking with Mars Bars" segment. As an aside, the main article states 'Rod Quantock's cooking segment parody "How to cook a Mars Bar" on the Australian sketch comedy series Australia You're Standing In It'; this series dates from 1983. Quantock was the host of the earlier "Ratbags" series; why not recycle a great sketch in a later series? I have recordings of 6 of the 13 episodes of "Ratbags" and each features a "Cooking with Mars Bars" segment but sadly no deep fried ones. I watched the series when it first went to air and I'm sure I rememer a deep fried segment. -- TrogWoolley 17:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The bold section is the strange one; is the 'treat' deep fried pizza (as mentioned in the previous paragraph and supported by the 'large quantities of beer'), or is it DFMB as mentioned in the subsequent sentence, and supported by the 'ice cream'?-- Anchoress 14:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
This has come up occassionally during the history of this article, that Snickers and Mars Bar are the same thing. They are not. A Mars Bar is caramel over a nougaty chocolaty base all covered in chocolate. A Snickers bar is a nougat base, with peanut butter and peanut caramel topping covered in chocolate. Not the same thing. Ben W Bell talk 14:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
According to a Marcdh 2003 article in Time for Kids, they are the same Zbl 15:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I want to include what the article said, but say that the article was wrong. Zbl 15:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
If the article itself is relevant, isn't the article's mistake relevant? Zbl 15:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
The article itself is not in question, only the one statement. However, including the article's mistakes would make people who read the article know that there is a difference. Zbl 15:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay lets discuss this line that User:Zbl insists on adding to the article. "The article also stated that Mars-Bars and the American candy bar Snickers are one and the same, although some dispute this fact." This line has no encyclopaedic content relevant to this article, the fact that a magazine made a mistake isn't encyclopaedic. The article hasn't even been referenced to show that A: a mistake was made, or even that B: it produced such an article in the first place. Even if it did make a mistake and did write an article it really has no place in this article. It's pointless trivia at best, and completely unenyclopaedic. Ben W Bell talk 22:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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I don't completely disagree with the reason for the revert (not relevant to topic) of my recent edit (regarding deep fried Moro bars in New Zealand), however it seems to me that this article probably should be expanded to include other deep fried chocolate bars, and (where appropriate) their relationship to Deep Fried Mars Bars (in my edit about Moro bars, I had mentioned the "Scottish connection" in the areas of New Zealand that it is popular). I see in this discussion people have mentioned Snickers, and the "Deep Fried Moro Bar" is something of an icon in much of New Zealand (I'd say, at least as much as the Deep Fried Mars Bar in Scotland). It doesn't make much sense to me to create new articles for "Deep Fried Moro Bar" and "Deep Fried Snickers Bar" and whatever else. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YttriumOx ( talk • contribs) 15:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
CarterBar, you've replaced the information on the type of batter used. Can you explain why this information belongs here please. Is this batter different than batter used outside the British Isles? Do French and Spanish people use different batter? Is it relevant that batter is also used for haggis? Most importantly, have you any references for these irrelevant pieces of trivia? Thank you. -- Bardcom ( talk) 11:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
It may be that the alleged youth of the consumers may be due to the drastic shortening of life expectancy amongst them subsequent to consumption -- Streona ( talk) 02:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Aren't they more commonly called battered mars bars rather the deep-fried mars bars? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.123.201 ( talk) 03:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
sorry i'm somewhat computer illiterate every date in the article refers to mid 1990's i worked at the hilton hotel in toronto in 1981 with a scot which is the first time i heard 0f a deepfried mars bar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.74.213.110 ( talk) 17:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Could we merge this wit the page for Mars bar? Mr.Magik-Pants ( talk) 02:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4564482.stm
-- Bananasoldier ( talk) 18:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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"It is known that the deep-fried Mars Bar was preceded by the deep-fried pizza. It was common practice in Angus to deep fry frozen pizza from as early as 1980." This was changed on 21 February 2006 by Mais oui! to Angus from the previous "east of dundee". It was originally posted by an anonymous user on 18 July 2005. It's been on here for 4 years now, uncited, and is now being copied all over the Internet. It's prolly well time that the assertion be backed up, or dropped. It's already been disputed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Deep-fried_Mars_Bar#Odd.2C_possibly_illogical_sentence
But I'll leave it to someone more intimately involved with this piece to make the call as to which way to go. My instinct is to flee whenever a sentence starts with, "it is known" :} Randal Oulton ( talk) 16:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the recipe only calls for one tablespoon of oil... Wouldn't deep frying a chocolate bar require a lot more oil, enough to completely submerge it? -- Arteitle 09:54, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
This should be moved to Deep fried Mars Bar with a capital B. Exploding Boy June 29, 2005 22:23 (UTC)
It should be noted that very few people in Scotland have ever tried one and, apart from the Royal Mile in Edinburgh where they are sold to gullible tourists, you would be hard pressed to find a fish and chip shop that actually sells them (the danger is it will melt and spoil the oil). The Lancet 'study' quoted on the article is probably apocryphal (click on the link and it takes you to the Lancet wiki page, not the 'study' itself). It's largely an urban myth that these are a delicacy north of the border. Now deep fried pizza, that's a different matter altogether... MyThoughtsExactly ( talk) 20:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC) There is a mention of this at bondisurfseafood.com.au, where they say Mars actually authorised them to sell these after satisfactory tests, and I recall it was reported in the local newspaper. Signed JohnsonL623 ( talk) 12:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
The recipe is already on wikibooks cookbook, shouldn't we remove it from here? - Joolz 11:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, but we're going to need to see a citation on this. Remember, no original research. ProhibitOnions 00:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC) (Yes, I have eaten one, in Birmingham, not in Scotland.)
I'll put the tag here for now:
{{ unreferenced}}
For a possible origin, check Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. There's a mention there of cooking Mars bars, but I can't remember whether the cook recommends frying or baking. The mention is toward the end, when the president decides to invite the characters to the White House. Gazpacho 09:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, I don't know Brian MacDoanld, but I have met the girl who was working in the chipper who actually deep-fried the thing for him. It's fairly common knowledge in Stonehaven. Maybe if someone emailed a local history association or something a citation could be got hold of. 195.62.204.75 11:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
There's a lot of annecdotal evidence that casts doubt on the Scottish claim. Personally, I distinctly remember that when I moved to Leeds (West Yorkshire), my mother (who was already living there) pointed out a fish and chip that did DFMBs the first time we went round the city centre together. This was in April 1984. There are claims that it originated in Hull, but the trick would be finding a printed reference to them pre-dating the 1995 Scottish ones. Nick Cooper 16:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Sadly I have no written proof of DFMB, but the first and only time I came across them was when working In Edinburgh in the mid 1980's (1982..1987). A colleague of mine came from Glasgow, and knew all about them, had them when he was a child (late 60's & 70's) but claimed that they (Graham and his wife) preferred a microwaved mars bar sandwich. The date would probably be around 1983..4. Another colleague from Ayrshire confirmed that the DFMB was popular where she came from.
I'm sure they are an Australian invention. In 1981 there was an Australian TV series "Ratbags" and John Derum presented a regular "Cooking with Mars Bars" segment. As an aside, the main article states 'Rod Quantock's cooking segment parody "How to cook a Mars Bar" on the Australian sketch comedy series Australia You're Standing In It'; this series dates from 1983. Quantock was the host of the earlier "Ratbags" series; why not recycle a great sketch in a later series? I have recordings of 6 of the 13 episodes of "Ratbags" and each features a "Cooking with Mars Bars" segment but sadly no deep fried ones. I watched the series when it first went to air and I'm sure I rememer a deep fried segment. -- TrogWoolley 17:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The bold section is the strange one; is the 'treat' deep fried pizza (as mentioned in the previous paragraph and supported by the 'large quantities of beer'), or is it DFMB as mentioned in the subsequent sentence, and supported by the 'ice cream'?-- Anchoress 14:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
This has come up occassionally during the history of this article, that Snickers and Mars Bar are the same thing. They are not. A Mars Bar is caramel over a nougaty chocolaty base all covered in chocolate. A Snickers bar is a nougat base, with peanut butter and peanut caramel topping covered in chocolate. Not the same thing. Ben W Bell talk 14:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
According to a Marcdh 2003 article in Time for Kids, they are the same Zbl 15:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I want to include what the article said, but say that the article was wrong. Zbl 15:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
If the article itself is relevant, isn't the article's mistake relevant? Zbl 15:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
The article itself is not in question, only the one statement. However, including the article's mistakes would make people who read the article know that there is a difference. Zbl 15:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay lets discuss this line that User:Zbl insists on adding to the article. "The article also stated that Mars-Bars and the American candy bar Snickers are one and the same, although some dispute this fact." This line has no encyclopaedic content relevant to this article, the fact that a magazine made a mistake isn't encyclopaedic. The article hasn't even been referenced to show that A: a mistake was made, or even that B: it produced such an article in the first place. Even if it did make a mistake and did write an article it really has no place in this article. It's pointless trivia at best, and completely unenyclopaedic. Ben W Bell talk 22:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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I don't completely disagree with the reason for the revert (not relevant to topic) of my recent edit (regarding deep fried Moro bars in New Zealand), however it seems to me that this article probably should be expanded to include other deep fried chocolate bars, and (where appropriate) their relationship to Deep Fried Mars Bars (in my edit about Moro bars, I had mentioned the "Scottish connection" in the areas of New Zealand that it is popular). I see in this discussion people have mentioned Snickers, and the "Deep Fried Moro Bar" is something of an icon in much of New Zealand (I'd say, at least as much as the Deep Fried Mars Bar in Scotland). It doesn't make much sense to me to create new articles for "Deep Fried Moro Bar" and "Deep Fried Snickers Bar" and whatever else. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YttriumOx ( talk • contribs) 15:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
CarterBar, you've replaced the information on the type of batter used. Can you explain why this information belongs here please. Is this batter different than batter used outside the British Isles? Do French and Spanish people use different batter? Is it relevant that batter is also used for haggis? Most importantly, have you any references for these irrelevant pieces of trivia? Thank you. -- Bardcom ( talk) 11:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
It may be that the alleged youth of the consumers may be due to the drastic shortening of life expectancy amongst them subsequent to consumption -- Streona ( talk) 02:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Aren't they more commonly called battered mars bars rather the deep-fried mars bars? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.123.201 ( talk) 03:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
sorry i'm somewhat computer illiterate every date in the article refers to mid 1990's i worked at the hilton hotel in toronto in 1981 with a scot which is the first time i heard 0f a deepfried mars bar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.74.213.110 ( talk) 17:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Could we merge this wit the page for Mars bar? Mr.Magik-Pants ( talk) 02:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4564482.stm
-- Bananasoldier ( talk) 18:35, 22 May 2015 (UTC)