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Ruh and TecAccess received a lot of awards. I would like to zone in on the most notable awards - and particularly for Ruh herself. And, they either remove the non-notable ones, or perhaps put them in a note. Any input is appreciated.
I also posted a request for comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disability#Debra Ruh.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 23:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
She has been on the:<ref name="RD" />
Are there other sources for these? I have only seen G3ict mentioned elsewhere.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Cullen328,
You mentioned on the Afd discussion that the article was bloated with too many factoids and details. I removed some and moved some content to notes. The Afd discussion is now closed as "keep".
Do you mind taking another look now? For instance, if you think that some of the content in "Notes" would be better deleted, that would be fine now.-- CaroleHenson (talk)
For example, the lead of an article should summarize the most important points of the entire article. Phrases like "weekly podcasts and regular Twitter discussions about accessibility" and "She has participated in panel discussions" seems out of place to me. Do reliable, independent sources discuss these endeavors as an important part of her life story? These are the routine activities of someone like her.- Done
Similarly with mention of her book. It should only be mentioned in an encyclopedia article if it has been independently reviewed.- I think the book should stay because it's mentioned on a number of sites about disabilities and in news articles. (This is a good tip, though, for inclusion of books in articles for future editing - i.e., lists of publications where I don't find anyone other than the author mention the book(s) or publication(s).)
A Wikipedia biography should summarize what completely independent sources say about the person, and trimming out extraneous material results in an article that is both more neutral and less promotional.- Yep, except for the use of Ruh Global for two sentences about the company and its objectives (backed up with another source), the sources are independent sources. I removed information about regional awards and some less notable content from the article.
I see that the peer review was archived, then reinstated. Since there has been more than two months that have passed without any comments, I have asked for at least some high level input about the article on the peer review request.— CaroleHenson (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
If someone is interested in expanding the article, there may be other content at the following sources: PBS, NBC, NPR, INC, Publishers Weekly, Fortune Magazine, America’s Best, and Bloomberg Business Week.
This was in a list of sources identified in a bio - I was able to find sources for the others in the list.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi DGG,
You added a {{ news release}} tag on the article. Is there something in particular that you think needs to be done to the article?
Thanks!– CaroleHenson ( talk) 21:19, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
It reads overall like a press release, especially in view of the article on TecAccess. e.g. "The firm's objective is to help ..." The claim that "For instance, by 2008 she trained and found jobs for 30 disabled Iraq veterans" is trivial. It's not usual to include a description of an individual talk, especially saying such an unprovable and vague statement as "They planned how to use that information to meet their 2030 goals for education, employment, poverty reduction and information technology. " The map is irrelevant. The part about her daughter seems over-personal for an encyclopedia, and seems a paraphrase of http://abc7ny.com/archive/7287407/--which itself is much more a press release than a news account. But at least its related. The part about her son is not. (Fwiw, I put on the tag without noticing the AfD or the prior discussion here, just based on the contents) DGG ( talk ) 05:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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Ruh and TecAccess received a lot of awards. I would like to zone in on the most notable awards - and particularly for Ruh herself. And, they either remove the non-notable ones, or perhaps put them in a note. Any input is appreciated.
I also posted a request for comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disability#Debra Ruh.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 23:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
She has been on the:<ref name="RD" />
Are there other sources for these? I have only seen G3ict mentioned elsewhere.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Cullen328,
You mentioned on the Afd discussion that the article was bloated with too many factoids and details. I removed some and moved some content to notes. The Afd discussion is now closed as "keep".
Do you mind taking another look now? For instance, if you think that some of the content in "Notes" would be better deleted, that would be fine now.-- CaroleHenson (talk)
For example, the lead of an article should summarize the most important points of the entire article. Phrases like "weekly podcasts and regular Twitter discussions about accessibility" and "She has participated in panel discussions" seems out of place to me. Do reliable, independent sources discuss these endeavors as an important part of her life story? These are the routine activities of someone like her.- Done
Similarly with mention of her book. It should only be mentioned in an encyclopedia article if it has been independently reviewed.- I think the book should stay because it's mentioned on a number of sites about disabilities and in news articles. (This is a good tip, though, for inclusion of books in articles for future editing - i.e., lists of publications where I don't find anyone other than the author mention the book(s) or publication(s).)
A Wikipedia biography should summarize what completely independent sources say about the person, and trimming out extraneous material results in an article that is both more neutral and less promotional.- Yep, except for the use of Ruh Global for two sentences about the company and its objectives (backed up with another source), the sources are independent sources. I removed information about regional awards and some less notable content from the article.
I see that the peer review was archived, then reinstated. Since there has been more than two months that have passed without any comments, I have asked for at least some high level input about the article on the peer review request.— CaroleHenson (talk) 14:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
If someone is interested in expanding the article, there may be other content at the following sources: PBS, NBC, NPR, INC, Publishers Weekly, Fortune Magazine, America’s Best, and Bloomberg Business Week.
This was in a list of sources identified in a bio - I was able to find sources for the others in the list.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi DGG,
You added a {{ news release}} tag on the article. Is there something in particular that you think needs to be done to the article?
Thanks!– CaroleHenson ( talk) 21:19, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
It reads overall like a press release, especially in view of the article on TecAccess. e.g. "The firm's objective is to help ..." The claim that "For instance, by 2008 she trained and found jobs for 30 disabled Iraq veterans" is trivial. It's not usual to include a description of an individual talk, especially saying such an unprovable and vague statement as "They planned how to use that information to meet their 2030 goals for education, employment, poverty reduction and information technology. " The map is irrelevant. The part about her daughter seems over-personal for an encyclopedia, and seems a paraphrase of http://abc7ny.com/archive/7287407/--which itself is much more a press release than a news account. But at least its related. The part about her son is not. (Fwiw, I put on the tag without noticing the AfD or the prior discussion here, just based on the contents) DGG ( talk ) 05:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)