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By my count, this article references that Lenny was released in February at least 4 times. This seems a little bit redundant. I mean, I know everyone gets excited when a new version is released, but to repeat this one fact in each section is a bit silly. 173.8.168.145 ( talk) 00:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, my count was off. It's mentioned 5 times plus a chart/graphic (so 6?).
173.8.168.145 (
talk)
00:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I will leave it at the discretion of those whom most carefully edit this page to decide if it is relavent. Thiemo Seufer died on Dec 26, 2008 and was a very active member of the Debian team and was in charge of many projects. The Debian team decided to dedicate Lenny to his memory on December 29, 2008. 72.54.34.34 ( talk) 02:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
The DCC Alliance article is up for deletion. Those interested may wish to weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/DCC_Alliance and/or help improve (correct...) the piece as a historical record of past diversions. — Sladen 08:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I added a Debian Sid Gnome-2.20 screenshot in the article before ports.but anonymous(190.144.171.19 as of now) user who deletes this!I hope showing newer Gnome and Debian is definitely a must do.as people's perception will be debian running only old softies+sec.updates and is meant for server.while Debian testing or unstable(Sid) are getting up2date packages and may be even better than ubuntu with sid using upstart and pulseaudio =).so please control this anonymous user deleting the screenshot again and again :x Praka123 ( talk) 19:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I dont think so.for many people who are new to GNU/Linux and especially Debian,the only distro they can "see" is Debian Stable or Etch as of now.while there are Lenny which is almost stable with much more current packages and Debian Sid contains the latest packages.no wonder there is a distro called sidux made by Debian Sid users(kde esp) just to enjoy the Debian+latest packages.let it be there,dude!I aint doing any harm,I just want to remove the false norm that Debian means Old packages with security fix only.instead urges people to try Sid if you can! Praka123 ( talk) 19:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
No sufficient notability established for Debian bug tracking system. JASpencer ( talk) 17:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
What is a Debian suite ? sarge, sarge-volatile, sarge-backports, etch, etch-m68k, etch-volatile, etch-backports, lenny, sid, experimental. -- Mac ( talk) 08:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
¿ yes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petchboo ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't it say it's a GNU/Linux-distribution since that is what its name says? -- 212.247.27.19 ( talk) 21:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I think that it's worth including a Criticism section after the recent OpenSSL vulnerability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.134.56 ( talk) 08:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
In Debian 'Etch' Isnt there a web browser named Epiphany that replaced Iceweasel? Is it also still a rebranding of firefox? Cbwcjw ( talk) 23:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Can we have this back the way it was, please? Per the rationale I gave in my edit summary:
please see the ongoing discussion at Talk:Linux. The intro specifically presents "Debian" before "Debian GNU/Linux" because this article incorporates the non-Linux Debians
I'm fine with taking "Linux" out of the infobox and just leaving it as GNU, given the historical affiliation between the two projects. But the rest was fine as it was, and was worked out carefully in the talk archives. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
By methodology, none of the proposals to merge Wikipedia articles refers to a clear expression of purpose. Initially in starting the discussion and finally in the course of contributions the lack of expression is often overriden by the challenge to keep the sizing recommendation. It would be a good approach, beyond merging, to move portions from here to there and generally improve the linking between the texts proposed for merger. Could it be possible to revert the proposal to more productive attempts to improve structures? Please overcome the vanity of authors. Wireless friend ( talk) 13:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Please use Wikipedia:Citation_templates to write your citations. Thx. VShaka ( talk) 10:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
The main page refers to her as "ex-wife" but I can find no such reference whatsoever on the web —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.219.155.164 ( talk) 09:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
The article does not mention support for 64bit processors in a clear way. It's hard to understand if the amd64 bit architecture is the correct to use on x86-64bit. I suggest that there should be a own section describing the basic steps and what to choose and the advantages and disadvantages. As far as I know it's possible to address 64GB of ram on a 32bit kernel and this probably a large enough amount of memory for most people. Hope someone with a little insight on this can write a little section in the main article! Cheers!
No, a 32 bit kernel can handle 2/3 (or 4-8 if your CPU supports PAE and you use a PAE enabled kernel)
A 64 bit kernel (EMT64/amd64/x86_64 (these are identical) can adress like 1 terabyte or something. Most modern CPUs can run these (about half of pentium 4s, nearly all AMD ones of that era and beyond, and virtually all modern CPUs (With the Pentium M, and the original Core[1]duo being the exceptions) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.153.191 ( talk) 23:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
If you have a modernish CPU, then it can most likely run 64 bit kernel. The advantages is more addressing space, the disadvantage is in the past there was some issues with having to have both 32 bit and 64 bit libaries installed in order to get flash to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.153.191 ( talk) 23:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
GNU/kFreeBSD isn't even mentioned. I suggest breaking Debian down into separate articles, focusing each one on the actual OS (Linux, HURD, FreeBSD), and leaving "Debian" to describe what they actually do.
—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
80.213.169.83 (
talk)
19:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The kernel table comparing versions of released kernel to Debian releases version is completely useless, non relevant information.
I think that the kernel version _is_ relevant, but not compared to the latest upstream released version, I'd put the kernel version in the other release table.
Margamanterola ( talk) 17:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I know it's impossible to say when a sid "release" is made, but shouldn't we say (updated daily) instead of (N/A), just so it sounds more like it's still being developed daily (and at a blazing fast speed) rather than being developed n/a'ly. Can't really think of a better term other than "updated daily", and I can't seem to find how to edit that part. 120.28.71.120 ( talk) 15:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
It is written in the lead that "the Debian GNU/Linux project ... would cost $819,274,547 to redevelop from scratch". It is also written that "The cost of developing Debian 4.0 etch ... close to US$13 billion". A billion is either 109 or 1012. In both cases, 13 billion is much more than 819,274,547. What could it mean? Boris Tsirelson ( talk) 07:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
On the release of squeeze, it says 'Spring 2010', Spring is September where I am, and March in the northern hemisphere, so which is it? This should really be put in global terms, rather than northern hemisphere terms, narrowed down to the closest month maybe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.250.92 ( talk) 20:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I also miss information about Fonts, IRC places and popularity-contest.
Where does the funding of the project comes from?--
109.169.62.35 (
talk)
03:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Under Squeeze, this information appears to be incorrect, they are opposite of what the articles say.
dropped architectures: alpha, arm.[63] eglibc in favour of glibc.[64]
Reference 63
alpha 22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
After we sent mails to debian-alpha last month we came together with the porters to the conclusion that we cannot keep up this port for Squeeze. We will start purging the packages from testing in about a fortnight. Bugs specific to alpha are no longer release critical. -snip- armel 22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
The buildd speed isn't always as wanted, but work is underway to replace machines with newer hardware. Also there are discussions on getting the buildds within DSA-control after that; we would appreciate that. Anyways, nothing really worries us.
Reference 63:
Debian is switching to EGLIBC
I have just uploaded Embedded GLIBC (EGLIBC) into the archive (it is currently waiting in the NEW queue), which will soon replace the GNU C Library (GLIBC).
So both of these are wrong unless something has changed that has not been referenced. -- 24.26.251.35 ( talk) 22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Until 2009-11-23, the colors of the tables were "Red, Yellow, Green, Blue". This was logical, because the past could be depicted in traffic lights, and the future was blue (without "date of expiry" to warn about with traffic lights). Why these color pattern was changed to the dreadful pattern "red, light green, dark green und yellow"? This pattern lacks any kind of logic! Can it be changed back? -- 78.52.234.205 ( talk) 08:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
By my count, this article references that Lenny was released in February at least 4 times. This seems a little bit redundant. I mean, I know everyone gets excited when a new version is released, but to repeat this one fact in each section is a bit silly. 173.8.168.145 ( talk) 00:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, my count was off. It's mentioned 5 times plus a chart/graphic (so 6?).
173.8.168.145 (
talk)
00:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
I will leave it at the discretion of those whom most carefully edit this page to decide if it is relavent. Thiemo Seufer died on Dec 26, 2008 and was a very active member of the Debian team and was in charge of many projects. The Debian team decided to dedicate Lenny to his memory on December 29, 2008. 72.54.34.34 ( talk) 02:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
The DCC Alliance article is up for deletion. Those interested may wish to weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/DCC_Alliance and/or help improve (correct...) the piece as a historical record of past diversions. — Sladen 08:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I added a Debian Sid Gnome-2.20 screenshot in the article before ports.but anonymous(190.144.171.19 as of now) user who deletes this!I hope showing newer Gnome and Debian is definitely a must do.as people's perception will be debian running only old softies+sec.updates and is meant for server.while Debian testing or unstable(Sid) are getting up2date packages and may be even better than ubuntu with sid using upstart and pulseaudio =).so please control this anonymous user deleting the screenshot again and again :x Praka123 ( talk) 19:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I dont think so.for many people who are new to GNU/Linux and especially Debian,the only distro they can "see" is Debian Stable or Etch as of now.while there are Lenny which is almost stable with much more current packages and Debian Sid contains the latest packages.no wonder there is a distro called sidux made by Debian Sid users(kde esp) just to enjoy the Debian+latest packages.let it be there,dude!I aint doing any harm,I just want to remove the false norm that Debian means Old packages with security fix only.instead urges people to try Sid if you can! Praka123 ( talk) 19:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
No sufficient notability established for Debian bug tracking system. JASpencer ( talk) 17:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
What is a Debian suite ? sarge, sarge-volatile, sarge-backports, etch, etch-m68k, etch-volatile, etch-backports, lenny, sid, experimental. -- Mac ( talk) 08:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
¿ yes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petchboo ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't it say it's a GNU/Linux-distribution since that is what its name says? -- 212.247.27.19 ( talk) 21:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I think that it's worth including a Criticism section after the recent OpenSSL vulnerability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.134.56 ( talk) 08:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
In Debian 'Etch' Isnt there a web browser named Epiphany that replaced Iceweasel? Is it also still a rebranding of firefox? Cbwcjw ( talk) 23:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Can we have this back the way it was, please? Per the rationale I gave in my edit summary:
please see the ongoing discussion at Talk:Linux. The intro specifically presents "Debian" before "Debian GNU/Linux" because this article incorporates the non-Linux Debians
I'm fine with taking "Linux" out of the infobox and just leaving it as GNU, given the historical affiliation between the two projects. But the rest was fine as it was, and was worked out carefully in the talk archives. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
By methodology, none of the proposals to merge Wikipedia articles refers to a clear expression of purpose. Initially in starting the discussion and finally in the course of contributions the lack of expression is often overriden by the challenge to keep the sizing recommendation. It would be a good approach, beyond merging, to move portions from here to there and generally improve the linking between the texts proposed for merger. Could it be possible to revert the proposal to more productive attempts to improve structures? Please overcome the vanity of authors. Wireless friend ( talk) 13:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Please use Wikipedia:Citation_templates to write your citations. Thx. VShaka ( talk) 10:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
The main page refers to her as "ex-wife" but I can find no such reference whatsoever on the web —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.219.155.164 ( talk) 09:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
The article does not mention support for 64bit processors in a clear way. It's hard to understand if the amd64 bit architecture is the correct to use on x86-64bit. I suggest that there should be a own section describing the basic steps and what to choose and the advantages and disadvantages. As far as I know it's possible to address 64GB of ram on a 32bit kernel and this probably a large enough amount of memory for most people. Hope someone with a little insight on this can write a little section in the main article! Cheers!
No, a 32 bit kernel can handle 2/3 (or 4-8 if your CPU supports PAE and you use a PAE enabled kernel)
A 64 bit kernel (EMT64/amd64/x86_64 (these are identical) can adress like 1 terabyte or something. Most modern CPUs can run these (about half of pentium 4s, nearly all AMD ones of that era and beyond, and virtually all modern CPUs (With the Pentium M, and the original Core[1]duo being the exceptions) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.153.191 ( talk) 23:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
If you have a modernish CPU, then it can most likely run 64 bit kernel. The advantages is more addressing space, the disadvantage is in the past there was some issues with having to have both 32 bit and 64 bit libaries installed in order to get flash to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.153.191 ( talk) 23:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
GNU/kFreeBSD isn't even mentioned. I suggest breaking Debian down into separate articles, focusing each one on the actual OS (Linux, HURD, FreeBSD), and leaving "Debian" to describe what they actually do.
—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
80.213.169.83 (
talk)
19:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The kernel table comparing versions of released kernel to Debian releases version is completely useless, non relevant information.
I think that the kernel version _is_ relevant, but not compared to the latest upstream released version, I'd put the kernel version in the other release table.
Margamanterola ( talk) 17:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I know it's impossible to say when a sid "release" is made, but shouldn't we say (updated daily) instead of (N/A), just so it sounds more like it's still being developed daily (and at a blazing fast speed) rather than being developed n/a'ly. Can't really think of a better term other than "updated daily", and I can't seem to find how to edit that part. 120.28.71.120 ( talk) 15:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
It is written in the lead that "the Debian GNU/Linux project ... would cost $819,274,547 to redevelop from scratch". It is also written that "The cost of developing Debian 4.0 etch ... close to US$13 billion". A billion is either 109 or 1012. In both cases, 13 billion is much more than 819,274,547. What could it mean? Boris Tsirelson ( talk) 07:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
On the release of squeeze, it says 'Spring 2010', Spring is September where I am, and March in the northern hemisphere, so which is it? This should really be put in global terms, rather than northern hemisphere terms, narrowed down to the closest month maybe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.250.92 ( talk) 20:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I also miss information about Fonts, IRC places and popularity-contest.
Where does the funding of the project comes from?--
109.169.62.35 (
talk)
03:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Under Squeeze, this information appears to be incorrect, they are opposite of what the articles say.
dropped architectures: alpha, arm.[63] eglibc in favour of glibc.[64]
Reference 63
alpha 22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
After we sent mails to debian-alpha last month we came together with the porters to the conclusion that we cannot keep up this port for Squeeze. We will start purging the packages from testing in about a fortnight. Bugs specific to alpha are no longer release critical. -snip- armel 22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
The buildd speed isn't always as wanted, but work is underway to replace machines with newer hardware. Also there are discussions on getting the buildds within DSA-control after that; we would appreciate that. Anyways, nothing really worries us.
Reference 63:
Debian is switching to EGLIBC
I have just uploaded Embedded GLIBC (EGLIBC) into the archive (it is currently waiting in the NEW queue), which will soon replace the GNU C Library (GLIBC).
So both of these are wrong unless something has changed that has not been referenced. -- 24.26.251.35 ( talk) 22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Until 2009-11-23, the colors of the tables were "Red, Yellow, Green, Blue". This was logical, because the past could be depicted in traffic lights, and the future was blue (without "date of expiry" to warn about with traffic lights). Why these color pattern was changed to the dreadful pattern "red, light green, dark green und yellow"? This pattern lacks any kind of logic! Can it be changed back? -- 78.52.234.205 ( talk) 08:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)