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This article gives the date of the death of Ray Bradbury as June 6 - indeed, I first heard it announced on BBC Radio Four today, which is June 6. However, the article on Ray Bradbury gives his death date as June 5. Obviously, one of the two dates needs to be changed. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 15:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, this website:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57448127-10391698/ray-bradbury-dead-at-91/
gives the date as being "Tuesday night", which would have been June 5. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 15:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
This person died on the 28th of June. B-Machine ( talk) 18:44, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone read Slovenian to figure out this guy's cause of death? I have some small amount of ability to figure out Croatian, Serbian (Latin alphabet) and Macedonian, but Slovenian is so different that it just beats me to death. (Something analogous is true for people with some skill at reading French; they can halfway figure out Spanish but trying to figure out Italian is useless). Anyway, can anyone read Slovenian? Guyovski ( talk) 06:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
This decedent has no article and I don't foresee anyone writing an article on him, so the issue I'm raising is probably not important. All the same, what's the purpose of calling him a "danseur?" In its current version, the word links to Ballet dancer, and it's just a French language word that translates as simply "dancer." Is there some cultural Russian or old Soviet significance to the term "danseur?" If there isn't, I propose that it be replaced with "dancer" or "ballet dancer," depending on which he was. Guyovski ( talk) 07:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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User:Walter Breitzke keeps reverting the Tom Maynard entry, contrary to what has been discussed in the above section. Tom Maynard's cause of death should read, by above consensus, as "train impact". User:Walter Breitzke keeps changing it back to "struck by train" (contrary to the above consensus). I have reverted him 2 or 3 times, with the notation "Please see Talk Page". He continues to revert, in contravention of the above consensus. Can some administrator please intervene and take appropriate action to restore the article to its consensus state? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 13:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Please also note that User:Walter Breitzke has not participated in the above discussion, nor has he offered any input or opinion on this issue. He simply keeps unilaterally reverting to the wording that he individually prefers (despite consensus). And – if I remember correctly – he offers no reasons, explanations, or rationales in his "edit summary" boxes. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 14:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
As Ghmyrtle pointed out, Maynard's c.o.d. is becoming more unclear. There is some speculation that he may have been electrocuted by the third rail before the train hit him. That casts a doubt over the train being the cause of death. With all the uncertainty, I'm leaning towards a very vague c.o.d. like "railway incident" or similar until the coroner determines the cause of death and whether an accident or not. WWGB ( talk) 04:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Since her article says she was a CBE, I changed "Austrian-born English writer" to "Austrian-born English writer and peer." Before reverting please discuss your intended edit here. Guyovski ( talk) 00:17, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Please review article Jesse Powell (American football) and decide whether entry "Jesse Powell" should be edited to add cause of death as "cardiac arrest." Guyovski ( talk) 15:09, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Is it fair to edit entry "Bob Chappuis" to list cause of death as "complications from a fall?" The source and article don't explicitly state that but it's strongly implied. Guyovski ( talk) 21:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
The reference for this entry appears to be improperly formatted, from the way it looks in the reference list. Kindly fix. Guyovski ( talk) 01:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
The original notability for this decedent was "French philosopher." Later it was changed to "French philosopher and Holocaust denier." Now it's been changed to "French philosopher and author." I've read the sources in both English and French and it looks a lot like the decedent was notable primarily for being a Holocaust denier rather than a marginal Marxist thinker and author of obscure, little-read books. I propose that the notability in the entry go back to "French philosopher and Holocaust denier." Guyovski ( talk) 00:55, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
There's a lot of editing of this entry but no one is discussing their edits. The latest edit says: "victim of 1991 police brutality incident" and the cause of death of "drowning" has been removed. To me the wording of the notability part is pretty much right. As for the cause of death, I read the source carefully and it says in so many words that he was found at the bottom of a pool, but there is no official cause of death pending an autopsy. I don't believe that "found at the bottom of a pool" would be an appropriate part of the entry because it's not a cause of death, and we don't know yet whether he drowned. So how about leaving the entry as is? Guyovski ( talk) 22:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
An interesting question has arisen at Rodney King's Talk Page. (See here: Talk:Rodney King#Victim of police brutality.) So, I wanted to bring the issue here, as well, as it is relevant. We will need to come to some consensus. King is currently listed as the "victim of police brutality". However, if I recall correctly, all of the police officers were acquitted of any brutality. (This jury verdict is, in fact, what led to the LA riots.) Some police officers were later convicted of violating his civil rights (which is a different crime than "police brutality"). So, any thoughts on the proper wording for Rodney King's entry at this page? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 22:49, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Outside of your discussion, someone placed "kickstarter" of the LA Riots into his bio this morning. He didnt start the riots (he actually tried to stop them with his infamous plea of "Cant we all just get along?" Since the person correctly put the LA Riots into context, I changed the tag line to "figure involved" in the LA Riots. Probably need more input from the community on this one. The CoD will either be heart related or drowning related and we need to find out from the LA County Coroner before we can input that. The difference is whether there is water in the lungs or not. There is also a chance he might have had an accident such as bumping his head and losing consciousness on the side of the pool. Sunnydoo ( talk) 12:07, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Going back to the police brutality, there really does have to be an "alleged" in there somewhere. DoctorKubla ( talk) 14:37, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
In response to DoctorKubla's comment above. I think that both "victim of alleged police brutality" and "victim of a civil rights violation" are inelegant, cumbersome, and clunky (though factually accurate). How about we take a new direction for King's description? Something along the lines of this: "subject of a controversial video that sparked the 1992 LA riots". Or some such. Any thoughts? That moves us away from the whole "victim" thing and the specifics of the exact crime for which there was a conviction, etc. King really is noted for being in that particular video ... regardless of what the final legal conclusions of the conduct in that video were determined to be. No? Any thoughts? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 18:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I see there's been some back and forth over this, but I don't think "train strike" makes much sense as a cause of death. "Hit by a train" seems clearer and more straightforward. DoctorKubla ( talk) 17:26, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Seems like most of the top sources are avoiding making any judgement about it, calling it a "mishap" or an "incident". More minor sources like [5], [6], [7] etc call it an accident. There'll be a coroner's report fairly soon, so that will clear it up once and for all. Bretonbanquet ( talk) 22:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone read Slovenian to figure out this guy's cause of death? I have some small amount of ability to figure out Croatian, Serbian (Latin alphabet) and Macedonian, but Slovenian is so different that it just beats me to death. (Something analogous is true for people with some skill at reading French; they can halfway figure out Spanish but trying to figure out Italian is useless). Anyway, can anyone read Slovenian? Guyovski ( talk) 06:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
This decedent has no article and I don't foresee anyone writing an article on him, so the issue I'm raising is probably not important. All the same, what's the purpose of calling him a "danseur?" In its current version, the word links to Ballet dancer, and it's just a French language word that translates as simply "dancer." Is there some cultural Russian or old Soviet significance to the term "danseur?" If there isn't, I propose that it be replaced with "dancer" or "ballet dancer," depending on which he was. Guyovski ( talk) 07:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
It is suggested that gen. Slawomir Petelicki committed suicide when there is no coroner's report and issue is still under investigation. Panurg123 ( talk) 21:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC)panurg123
This person died on June 11. B-Machine ( talk) 13:47, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article on Richard Lynch shows him as 72 years old when he died, whereas here the age given is 76. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.205.209.53 ( talk) 18:00, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Lonesome George was a Galapagos Tortoise not a Galapogos Turtle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.67.63 ( talk) 23:34, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
The inclusion of deceased animals on Recent deaths has always been contentious. Some believe that including animals demeans the humans listed around them. Others think that animals are just as entitled to be listed as the human species. As a compromise, it was seemingly agreed that only animals with an existing Wikipedia article would be listed. This avoided the list becoming clogged for 30 days with non-notable animals like Chance the police dog (just a random example). While it is hard to pin down a specific agreement (like many decisions here) this condition is alluded to in talk pages like Talk:Deaths in 2008#Animals? and Talk:Deaths in 2007#Animals. Given that Lonesome George is an endling, I'm happy to cut him some slack to see if an article emerges in the next month. WWGB ( talk) 04:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
The article on the Pinta Island tortoise says he was the last of his SUBspecies, where as his listing on the deaths page says he was the last of his species. Is that important? 212.139.246.76 ( talk) 18:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the text "last of his species" to "last of his subspecies" per the cited source and the discussion above. 212.139.246.76 ( talk) 16:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
I re-listed his death and linked to the section about him in the article. While he doesn't have a stand-alone article, his death is the end of a sub-species and warrants inclusion. The section in the article is extensive and could stand as an article on its own, but that would diminish the article on the tortoise. Let's err on the side of inclusion, please.— D'Ranged 1 talk 02:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Should Lonesome George be included in the list? — D'Ranged 1 talk 03:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes As I said above, while he doesn't have a stand-alone article, his death is the end of a sub-species and warrants inclusion. The section in the article is extensive and could stand as an article on its own, but that would diminish the article on the tortoise. Given the discussion above, it appears that only one editor is being a stickler for the "own article" criteria. Let's err on the side of inclusion, please.— D'Ranged 1 talk 03:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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This article gives the date of the death of Ray Bradbury as June 6 - indeed, I first heard it announced on BBC Radio Four today, which is June 6. However, the article on Ray Bradbury gives his death date as June 5. Obviously, one of the two dates needs to be changed. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 15:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, this website:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57448127-10391698/ray-bradbury-dead-at-91/
gives the date as being "Tuesday night", which would have been June 5. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 15:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
This person died on the 28th of June. B-Machine ( talk) 18:44, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone read Slovenian to figure out this guy's cause of death? I have some small amount of ability to figure out Croatian, Serbian (Latin alphabet) and Macedonian, but Slovenian is so different that it just beats me to death. (Something analogous is true for people with some skill at reading French; they can halfway figure out Spanish but trying to figure out Italian is useless). Anyway, can anyone read Slovenian? Guyovski ( talk) 06:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
This decedent has no article and I don't foresee anyone writing an article on him, so the issue I'm raising is probably not important. All the same, what's the purpose of calling him a "danseur?" In its current version, the word links to Ballet dancer, and it's just a French language word that translates as simply "dancer." Is there some cultural Russian or old Soviet significance to the term "danseur?" If there isn't, I propose that it be replaced with "dancer" or "ballet dancer," depending on which he was. Guyovski ( talk) 07:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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User:Walter Breitzke keeps reverting the Tom Maynard entry, contrary to what has been discussed in the above section. Tom Maynard's cause of death should read, by above consensus, as "train impact". User:Walter Breitzke keeps changing it back to "struck by train" (contrary to the above consensus). I have reverted him 2 or 3 times, with the notation "Please see Talk Page". He continues to revert, in contravention of the above consensus. Can some administrator please intervene and take appropriate action to restore the article to its consensus state? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 13:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Please also note that User:Walter Breitzke has not participated in the above discussion, nor has he offered any input or opinion on this issue. He simply keeps unilaterally reverting to the wording that he individually prefers (despite consensus). And – if I remember correctly – he offers no reasons, explanations, or rationales in his "edit summary" boxes. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 14:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
As Ghmyrtle pointed out, Maynard's c.o.d. is becoming more unclear. There is some speculation that he may have been electrocuted by the third rail before the train hit him. That casts a doubt over the train being the cause of death. With all the uncertainty, I'm leaning towards a very vague c.o.d. like "railway incident" or similar until the coroner determines the cause of death and whether an accident or not. WWGB ( talk) 04:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Since her article says she was a CBE, I changed "Austrian-born English writer" to "Austrian-born English writer and peer." Before reverting please discuss your intended edit here. Guyovski ( talk) 00:17, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Please review article Jesse Powell (American football) and decide whether entry "Jesse Powell" should be edited to add cause of death as "cardiac arrest." Guyovski ( talk) 15:09, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Is it fair to edit entry "Bob Chappuis" to list cause of death as "complications from a fall?" The source and article don't explicitly state that but it's strongly implied. Guyovski ( talk) 21:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
The reference for this entry appears to be improperly formatted, from the way it looks in the reference list. Kindly fix. Guyovski ( talk) 01:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
The original notability for this decedent was "French philosopher." Later it was changed to "French philosopher and Holocaust denier." Now it's been changed to "French philosopher and author." I've read the sources in both English and French and it looks a lot like the decedent was notable primarily for being a Holocaust denier rather than a marginal Marxist thinker and author of obscure, little-read books. I propose that the notability in the entry go back to "French philosopher and Holocaust denier." Guyovski ( talk) 00:55, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
There's a lot of editing of this entry but no one is discussing their edits. The latest edit says: "victim of 1991 police brutality incident" and the cause of death of "drowning" has been removed. To me the wording of the notability part is pretty much right. As for the cause of death, I read the source carefully and it says in so many words that he was found at the bottom of a pool, but there is no official cause of death pending an autopsy. I don't believe that "found at the bottom of a pool" would be an appropriate part of the entry because it's not a cause of death, and we don't know yet whether he drowned. So how about leaving the entry as is? Guyovski ( talk) 22:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
An interesting question has arisen at Rodney King's Talk Page. (See here: Talk:Rodney King#Victim of police brutality.) So, I wanted to bring the issue here, as well, as it is relevant. We will need to come to some consensus. King is currently listed as the "victim of police brutality". However, if I recall correctly, all of the police officers were acquitted of any brutality. (This jury verdict is, in fact, what led to the LA riots.) Some police officers were later convicted of violating his civil rights (which is a different crime than "police brutality"). So, any thoughts on the proper wording for Rodney King's entry at this page? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 22:49, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Outside of your discussion, someone placed "kickstarter" of the LA Riots into his bio this morning. He didnt start the riots (he actually tried to stop them with his infamous plea of "Cant we all just get along?" Since the person correctly put the LA Riots into context, I changed the tag line to "figure involved" in the LA Riots. Probably need more input from the community on this one. The CoD will either be heart related or drowning related and we need to find out from the LA County Coroner before we can input that. The difference is whether there is water in the lungs or not. There is also a chance he might have had an accident such as bumping his head and losing consciousness on the side of the pool. Sunnydoo ( talk) 12:07, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Going back to the police brutality, there really does have to be an "alleged" in there somewhere. DoctorKubla ( talk) 14:37, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
In response to DoctorKubla's comment above. I think that both "victim of alleged police brutality" and "victim of a civil rights violation" are inelegant, cumbersome, and clunky (though factually accurate). How about we take a new direction for King's description? Something along the lines of this: "subject of a controversial video that sparked the 1992 LA riots". Or some such. Any thoughts? That moves us away from the whole "victim" thing and the specifics of the exact crime for which there was a conviction, etc. King really is noted for being in that particular video ... regardless of what the final legal conclusions of the conduct in that video were determined to be. No? Any thoughts? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 18:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I see there's been some back and forth over this, but I don't think "train strike" makes much sense as a cause of death. "Hit by a train" seems clearer and more straightforward. DoctorKubla ( talk) 17:26, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Seems like most of the top sources are avoiding making any judgement about it, calling it a "mishap" or an "incident". More minor sources like [5], [6], [7] etc call it an accident. There'll be a coroner's report fairly soon, so that will clear it up once and for all. Bretonbanquet ( talk) 22:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone read Slovenian to figure out this guy's cause of death? I have some small amount of ability to figure out Croatian, Serbian (Latin alphabet) and Macedonian, but Slovenian is so different that it just beats me to death. (Something analogous is true for people with some skill at reading French; they can halfway figure out Spanish but trying to figure out Italian is useless). Anyway, can anyone read Slovenian? Guyovski ( talk) 06:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
This decedent has no article and I don't foresee anyone writing an article on him, so the issue I'm raising is probably not important. All the same, what's the purpose of calling him a "danseur?" In its current version, the word links to Ballet dancer, and it's just a French language word that translates as simply "dancer." Is there some cultural Russian or old Soviet significance to the term "danseur?" If there isn't, I propose that it be replaced with "dancer" or "ballet dancer," depending on which he was. Guyovski ( talk) 07:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
It is suggested that gen. Slawomir Petelicki committed suicide when there is no coroner's report and issue is still under investigation. Panurg123 ( talk) 21:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC)panurg123
This person died on June 11. B-Machine ( talk) 13:47, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article on Richard Lynch shows him as 72 years old when he died, whereas here the age given is 76. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.205.209.53 ( talk) 18:00, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Lonesome George was a Galapagos Tortoise not a Galapogos Turtle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.67.63 ( talk) 23:34, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
The inclusion of deceased animals on Recent deaths has always been contentious. Some believe that including animals demeans the humans listed around them. Others think that animals are just as entitled to be listed as the human species. As a compromise, it was seemingly agreed that only animals with an existing Wikipedia article would be listed. This avoided the list becoming clogged for 30 days with non-notable animals like Chance the police dog (just a random example). While it is hard to pin down a specific agreement (like many decisions here) this condition is alluded to in talk pages like Talk:Deaths in 2008#Animals? and Talk:Deaths in 2007#Animals. Given that Lonesome George is an endling, I'm happy to cut him some slack to see if an article emerges in the next month. WWGB ( talk) 04:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
The article on the Pinta Island tortoise says he was the last of his SUBspecies, where as his listing on the deaths page says he was the last of his species. Is that important? 212.139.246.76 ( talk) 18:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the text "last of his species" to "last of his subspecies" per the cited source and the discussion above. 212.139.246.76 ( talk) 16:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
I re-listed his death and linked to the section about him in the article. While he doesn't have a stand-alone article, his death is the end of a sub-species and warrants inclusion. The section in the article is extensive and could stand as an article on its own, but that would diminish the article on the tortoise. Let's err on the side of inclusion, please.— D'Ranged 1 talk 02:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Should Lonesome George be included in the list? — D'Ranged 1 talk 03:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes As I said above, while he doesn't have a stand-alone article, his death is the end of a sub-species and warrants inclusion. The section in the article is extensive and could stand as an article on its own, but that would diminish the article on the tortoise. Given the discussion above, it appears that only one editor is being a stickler for the "own article" criteria. Let's err on the side of inclusion, please.— D'Ranged 1 talk 03:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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