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Regarding the inclusion of Olwyn Hughes on January 3, 2016, the former literary agent (and sister) of the poet Ted Hughes: I was always under the impression that "notability through association" was not allowed in the articles "Deaths in XXXX", and that redirecting a relative or associate to create a "bluelink" by piping the name of a notable person living or dead in order to represent the name of that relative or associate was also not allowed - the only exception being if the person had a close association with a non-human subject, such as a notable musical group, political organisation or other 'dormant' entity (which is very often done, even if not everyone agrees on the validity of such an exercise). Please witness the countless attempts in 2015 to justify including the deaths of parents and children of notable people by such piping to "create" a bluelinked entry. Because Olwyn Hughes, as an entry, flies in the face of these conventions, and she is mentioned only four times in the article Ted Hughes, not once being quoted in any way which bestows real notability by proxy. I am hoping for some consensus on this page before I consider logging into my account and removing the entry. A lack of reaction to this point would certainly lead me to think I am probably right to do that. Thanks. 86.113.65.206 ( talk) 12:52, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Can of worms, all in all. Just another illustration which, overall, backs up my concern for this practice. However, if the consensus (as it appears here) condones this way of doing things, then so be it. 86.113.65.206 ( talk) 21:53, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
There is already disagreement as to which of his many significant works should be listed on this page. In my view it should include at least one of his albums - not just individual songs - mention his role as a record producer, and not give undue weight to his work as an actor - that is, perhaps list one or two films but not three. Is there any possibility that we can find a way to achieve consensus by discussion here? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 10:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Could you change Brett Smiley's date of death from Jan 8 to Jan 7? The obituary cited as a reference doesn't list a date of death but this obituary, published on January 7, lists January 7. His Wikipedia page also lists January 7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachruf ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. An obit on examiner.com (link omitted due to Wikipedia blacklisting), from someone who was a friend of the decedent, lists Thursday, January 7. AP says Friday, January 8. Not sure how you decide which is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachruf ( talk • contribs) 03:12, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
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Nick Wiltgen should be listed as suicide, not traffic collision. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 07:24, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
BBC reported his death several days ago. US media generally have not. Whatever is true, please report it. StarryEye ( talk) 15:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia lists William E. Martin's date of death as January 27, 2016. Also listed here with date and here without a date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachruf ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
He was an Order of Canada winning businessman and pitchman in the medicine industry. -- 24.114.72.212 ( talk) 12:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding the inclusion of Olwyn Hughes on January 3, 2016, the former literary agent (and sister) of the poet Ted Hughes: I was always under the impression that "notability through association" was not allowed in the articles "Deaths in XXXX", and that redirecting a relative or associate to create a "bluelink" by piping the name of a notable person living or dead in order to represent the name of that relative or associate was also not allowed - the only exception being if the person had a close association with a non-human subject, such as a notable musical group, political organisation or other 'dormant' entity (which is very often done, even if not everyone agrees on the validity of such an exercise). Please witness the countless attempts in 2015 to justify including the deaths of parents and children of notable people by such piping to "create" a bluelinked entry. Because Olwyn Hughes, as an entry, flies in the face of these conventions, and she is mentioned only four times in the article Ted Hughes, not once being quoted in any way which bestows real notability by proxy. I am hoping for some consensus on this page before I consider logging into my account and removing the entry. A lack of reaction to this point would certainly lead me to think I am probably right to do that. Thanks. 86.113.65.206 ( talk) 12:52, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Can of worms, all in all. Just another illustration which, overall, backs up my concern for this practice. However, if the consensus (as it appears here) condones this way of doing things, then so be it. 86.113.65.206 ( talk) 21:53, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
There is already disagreement as to which of his many significant works should be listed on this page. In my view it should include at least one of his albums - not just individual songs - mention his role as a record producer, and not give undue weight to his work as an actor - that is, perhaps list one or two films but not three. Is there any possibility that we can find a way to achieve consensus by discussion here? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 10:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Could you change Brett Smiley's date of death from Jan 8 to Jan 7? The obituary cited as a reference doesn't list a date of death but this obituary, published on January 7, lists January 7. His Wikipedia page also lists January 7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachruf ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. An obit on examiner.com (link omitted due to Wikipedia blacklisting), from someone who was a friend of the decedent, lists Thursday, January 7. AP says Friday, January 8. Not sure how you decide which is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachruf ( talk • contribs) 03:12, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
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Nick Wiltgen should be listed as suicide, not traffic collision. Joseph A. Spadaro ( talk) 07:24, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
BBC reported his death several days ago. US media generally have not. Whatever is true, please report it. StarryEye ( talk) 15:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia lists William E. Martin's date of death as January 27, 2016. Also listed here with date and here without a date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachruf ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
He was an Order of Canada winning businessman and pitchman in the medicine industry. -- 24.114.72.212 ( talk) 12:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
First, gonna go ahead and comment on the accusation of me "unilaterally" making my edit as being a hypocritical one considering User:Rockypedia "unilaterally" made the decision to declare the source we have (which is and has been a reliable one) "unreliable" and move Martin back here. I told him this four months ago, which he shrugged off. His theory is based off guesswork and thus is negated. So the only thing he can do is find a source that disproves the December 22 DOD. If not, then Martin should be moved to December 22. Rusted AutoParts 04:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
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I think The Man Who Fell To Earth, in which Bowie is the starring role, is way more notable of a film than Zoolander, which he only cameoed in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.202.224 ( talk) 19:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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