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Is it not better to combine Isaac and Solomou into one article, especially since the events are so closely tied? Perhaps 1996 Greek Cypriot demonstrations or something? Cheers, -- A.Garnet 17:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Given that the buffer zone was no-go with the possibility of trespassers being killed, and that the demonstrations were provocative in themselves, I'm inclined to think that he was either incredibly stupid, or he went into the buffer zone knowing that he would be killed and thus his death would have gained a lot of political capital. Of course, any killings are to be deplored, but any sane person does not try to cross a hostile demarcation line if there is a definite possibility of being killed. Expatkiwi
The act of encroaching into the buffer zone was foolhardy and it cost him his life. I don't call that martyrdom; I call it stupidity. Of course, the Turkish Cypriots who mobbed and beat him to death are not whom I would call sane either. Still, given the hatreds and mistrust that exists to this day between the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot populace, such an action would not have been unexpected, and I believe that the demonstration organizers were hoping that something of the kind would occur. Expatkiwi
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Two quotations (bolded by me) from the UN report, source No 1 as of this moment:
This is a "primary" source. Any editor using this document is making their own sythesis out of it. Those who did that for some reasons have not been able to see what is clear above. The UN says "(they were informed that) the Greek Cypriot demostrators were planning to "violate" the cease-fire lines". Only a few lines below adds "they crossed the cease-fire line". This is very clear; it is simply avoiding redundant use of the word "violate". Any good-will reading of this text, supposedly written in a diplomatic way, understands that the UN is saying "the cease-fire line was violated". No sythetising nor editorialising by me here. BTW those demonstrators walked in "starting fires as they went along", another issue not noticed by our POV editors. This much from me and will not reply those users I feel who are not here to make an objective work. (The objective users generally do not need replies from me; but regrettably most of them are intimidated from editing pages about Cyprus, IMO of course.) -- E4024 ( talk) 10:44, 17 January 2013 (UTC) P.D. I Italicised the Greek flag at the quotation from the UN paper (I guess that was a mistake as this is not about Greece).
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Is it not better to combine Isaac and Solomou into one article, especially since the events are so closely tied? Perhaps 1996 Greek Cypriot demonstrations or something? Cheers, -- A.Garnet 17:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Given that the buffer zone was no-go with the possibility of trespassers being killed, and that the demonstrations were provocative in themselves, I'm inclined to think that he was either incredibly stupid, or he went into the buffer zone knowing that he would be killed and thus his death would have gained a lot of political capital. Of course, any killings are to be deplored, but any sane person does not try to cross a hostile demarcation line if there is a definite possibility of being killed. Expatkiwi
The act of encroaching into the buffer zone was foolhardy and it cost him his life. I don't call that martyrdom; I call it stupidity. Of course, the Turkish Cypriots who mobbed and beat him to death are not whom I would call sane either. Still, given the hatreds and mistrust that exists to this day between the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot populace, such an action would not have been unexpected, and I believe that the demonstration organizers were hoping that something of the kind would occur. Expatkiwi
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Two quotations (bolded by me) from the UN report, source No 1 as of this moment:
This is a "primary" source. Any editor using this document is making their own sythesis out of it. Those who did that for some reasons have not been able to see what is clear above. The UN says "(they were informed that) the Greek Cypriot demostrators were planning to "violate" the cease-fire lines". Only a few lines below adds "they crossed the cease-fire line". This is very clear; it is simply avoiding redundant use of the word "violate". Any good-will reading of this text, supposedly written in a diplomatic way, understands that the UN is saying "the cease-fire line was violated". No sythetising nor editorialising by me here. BTW those demonstrators walked in "starting fires as they went along", another issue not noticed by our POV editors. This much from me and will not reply those users I feel who are not here to make an objective work. (The objective users generally do not need replies from me; but regrettably most of them are intimidated from editing pages about Cyprus, IMO of course.) -- E4024 ( talk) 10:44, 17 January 2013 (UTC) P.D. I Italicised the Greek flag at the quotation from the UN paper (I guess that was a mistake as this is not about Greece).
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