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I don't think that Infinite Jest (the film) is fatal hilarity. It is fatal comfort that kills - there are hints throughout Infinte Jest (the book) that the film consists mostly of shots from the point of view of the crib while the mother figure repeats over and over again that she is sorry. Furthermore, in another passage, it is learned that the director was working a special lens apparatus (and also specially ground lenses) that simulated the eyesight of an infant. The whole point is to regress the viewer to an infantile state of bliss, which turns out to be so overwhelming that those who view it want nothing more to keep viewing it.
This doesn't seem so much an article as it does a list. Perhaps it would be better if it were formatted as such? Gershwinrb 10:58, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I read in a book....I think it was caled miscellaney or something....That one king died laughing when he found out that italy was independant or something.....Not sure though. 199.224.81.132 17:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
About the death of Aretino, there's this curious history:
http://www.trivia-library.com/a/famous-painters-and-paintings-titian-venus-of-urbino.htm - Is that true? —Preceding
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I suggest we get some medical sources here? Anyone care to elaborate on how exactly this happens? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xvall ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Zeuxis, the famous painter of Ephesus in the 5th century BC, is commonly said to have laughed to death at one of his own paintings of an old woman—(indeed, I just checked, and the Wiki article on him says as much).
If someone kind find a source, I think it would be worth adding. I'll go ahead and add it.
There was one episode of Remington Steele where a person is murdered by laughing so hard they suffocated. In fact, it was the only episode of Remington Steele that I ever watched. Can't remember the episode though. Worth adding if anyone can remember it. Kevin 03:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Can anybody provide details of the pathology of fatal hilarity. How do people actually die? Kransky 13:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
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This will be quite difficult - I searched on two databases, GBooks, and a general Google search on "fatal hilarity", "fatal laughter", and "fatal mirth"; it turned up nothing of any medical or scientific value. Does anyone else have better luck? Nousernamesleft ( talk) 22:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
"Fatal hilarity" isn't used in medical literature and would technically qualify only as a contributing factor, no doctor would ever use the phrase when describing the cause of death. The physiological complications of laughter are currently unreferenced and need to be reviewed by an editor with medical expertise. This whole article may have to be overhauled to better distinguish the curious phraseology from any medical analysis. Even then, we have little more than pathology and several lists. ˉˉ anetode ╦╩ 09:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion about the use of the terms " syncope" and " cataplexy". With syncope, there is loss of consciousness. With cataplexy, there is no loss of consciousness. Cataplexy is often induced by strong emotions, including laughter, and is a feature of narcolepsy. Axl ( talk) 17:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Whilst I appreciate that in the pathophysiology section every technical term links to an article, nonetheless this article ought to be readable in its own right by the intelligent layman. Well, I'm an academic with no particular knowledge of medicine, and consider myself - outside of my own field - to be a pretty fair example of the intelligent layman, and without following the links, this section is meaningless to me. An encyclopaedia is not the same as a technical reference for those in the field, and the articles need to be more accessible than this. I'd love to contribute, but lack the knowledge, so I'm simply suggesting that the article would benefit from being made more approachable. -- Che Gannarelli ( talk) 21:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I really don't think this is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.156.147.124 ( talk) 19:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
The page has several unnecessary Fact citations, namely the Batman and Who Framed Roger Rabbit entries. These are common facts that are evident from seeing the material or reading the Wikipedia articles on the subject. They are unsuitable for reference, though if you feel a reference needs to be added, a simple link to IMDB would suffice, though it'd be a pointless reference. Do not undo edits regarding this without first commenting on the talk page, and if you feel that these need fact citations, give them references rather than simply re-adding the fact templates. Kevin ( talk) 22:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Citations are always necessary. In particular, You have to prove that laughing gas constitutes fatal hilarity. Please don't remove tags which require following the most basic wikipedia policies. - 7-bubёn >t 23:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Also the very definition in the article is still unreferenced. Is death because of tickling constitutes fatal hilarity? There is nothing hilarious in torture by tickling. - 7-bubёn >t 23:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
There is as many as whooping 7 google books hits for the term. Google scholar fares even worse. Hits from web (if exclude wikipedia & obvcious copycats) did not meke me immediately wiser. While death from laughing is a known phenomenon, the term is clearly not. The article is original synthesis to promote a particular term. I suggest to move it to the descriptive title, Death from laughter , because I cannot even find a decent definition of "fatal hilarity". The word "hilarity" means death of something funny, not from any laughter. There are at quite a few types of laughter which are not funny. - 7-bubёn >t 00:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Following the pop culture "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" reference, someone has appended a "citation needed." Would not the movie itself be the citation? Why would you need a link to somewhere that tells what's in the movie? - GAMEchief ( talk) 17:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
In this article it is said that:
That's in direct contradiction to the information in the Nanda Bayin article:
I'm guessing the latter is correct, but can someone look this over and confirm? Then I can replace the wrong bit of information in the appropriate place. Crusoe704 ( talk) 20:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Similar to this guy, that crashed his car, because he chocked with laughter! http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/driver-died-after-suffering-laughing-fit-at-wheel-of-his-mercedes-inquest-hears/ar-BBoj4yz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.208.181.44 ( talk) 18:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
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I saw a documentary about comedians from Munkfors ( Olle i Skratthult, Fridolf Rhudin and Bosse Parnevik) and in that they claimed a man laughed to death after a Olle i Skratthult revue. Apparently it was not while watching it, but out in the street when he recalled a funny joke. I don't know how reliable it is since Bosse Parnevik wasn't from Munkfors (he was born in Gothenburg and moved to Munkfors when he was two years old). // Liftarn ( talk) 20:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it wrong that I nearly laughed throughout this whole article? The funniest part was with the drunk donkey that tried to eat figs, when reading that you can imagine the poor Greek laughing his buttocks off, collapsing and finally dying from an overdose of hilarity. I think that in itself is comedy gold. The fact that it is even physically possible to die from laughing is so ridiculous and hilarious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.228.127.175 ( talk) 10:26, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Be wary of poetic irony. But I suppose it's a little funny, the notion that is. 95.109.102.252 ( talk) 02:38, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
During the live broadcast/recording of the Trick or Treat Radio podcast one of the hosts MonsterZero seems to pass out from laughing. Episode 227, Time stamp 1:50:30 Episode 227/ Youtube Link.
It has become a long running joke on the show and also to reference MonsterZero's poor health and Art Bradish's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Chuma Melbourne ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Right now, the page consists of two dubious paragraphs about cause and effect, a link to a list of supposedly-real deaths, and an embedded list of completely fictional deaths. There's no reason to embed a list of fictional deaths in an article about a supposedly-real phenomenon, and there's certainly no reason to have the list of supposedly-real deaths on a different page, especially when it's shorter than the list of fictional deaths.
I would probably remove all the fictional entries except the one from Greek mythology. A story that old could be historically significant and is likely worth mentioning in passing. Otherwise, it's just a random list of fictional stories that's better suited for a TV Tropes article than Wikipedia. At the very least, moving the real deaths to this page would give the page more credibility. 199.127.114.114 ( talk) 05:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
mfw another person says " Among Us" for the 148512354781694201337149871593th time Lallint ( talk) 14:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
So where the article says "Laughter can cause atonia and collapse" there is a link that leads to /info/en/?search=Glossary_of_medicine#Atony, but that is not a recognised 'anchor' on the page.
I'm guessing it's meant to refer to "some sort of disease related to muscle tone", but it doesn't seem to be a well-used phrase just from searching (I am not a medicine guy), and none of the citations seem relevant to that phrase. Which seems odd. Danack ( talk) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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I don't think that Infinite Jest (the film) is fatal hilarity. It is fatal comfort that kills - there are hints throughout Infinte Jest (the book) that the film consists mostly of shots from the point of view of the crib while the mother figure repeats over and over again that she is sorry. Furthermore, in another passage, it is learned that the director was working a special lens apparatus (and also specially ground lenses) that simulated the eyesight of an infant. The whole point is to regress the viewer to an infantile state of bliss, which turns out to be so overwhelming that those who view it want nothing more to keep viewing it.
This doesn't seem so much an article as it does a list. Perhaps it would be better if it were formatted as such? Gershwinrb 10:58, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I read in a book....I think it was caled miscellaney or something....That one king died laughing when he found out that italy was independant or something.....Not sure though. 199.224.81.132 17:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
About the death of Aretino, there's this curious history:
http://www.trivia-library.com/a/famous-painters-and-paintings-titian-venus-of-urbino.htm - Is that true? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Cesarakg (
talk •
contribs)
21:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I suggest we get some medical sources here? Anyone care to elaborate on how exactly this happens? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xvall ( talk • contribs) 20:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Zeuxis, the famous painter of Ephesus in the 5th century BC, is commonly said to have laughed to death at one of his own paintings of an old woman—(indeed, I just checked, and the Wiki article on him says as much).
If someone kind find a source, I think it would be worth adding. I'll go ahead and add it.
There was one episode of Remington Steele where a person is murdered by laughing so hard they suffocated. In fact, it was the only episode of Remington Steele that I ever watched. Can't remember the episode though. Worth adding if anyone can remember it. Kevin 03:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Can anybody provide details of the pathology of fatal hilarity. How do people actually die? Kransky 13:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
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This will be quite difficult - I searched on two databases, GBooks, and a general Google search on "fatal hilarity", "fatal laughter", and "fatal mirth"; it turned up nothing of any medical or scientific value. Does anyone else have better luck? Nousernamesleft ( talk) 22:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
"Fatal hilarity" isn't used in medical literature and would technically qualify only as a contributing factor, no doctor would ever use the phrase when describing the cause of death. The physiological complications of laughter are currently unreferenced and need to be reviewed by an editor with medical expertise. This whole article may have to be overhauled to better distinguish the curious phraseology from any medical analysis. Even then, we have little more than pathology and several lists. ˉˉ anetode ╦╩ 09:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion about the use of the terms " syncope" and " cataplexy". With syncope, there is loss of consciousness. With cataplexy, there is no loss of consciousness. Cataplexy is often induced by strong emotions, including laughter, and is a feature of narcolepsy. Axl ( talk) 17:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Whilst I appreciate that in the pathophysiology section every technical term links to an article, nonetheless this article ought to be readable in its own right by the intelligent layman. Well, I'm an academic with no particular knowledge of medicine, and consider myself - outside of my own field - to be a pretty fair example of the intelligent layman, and without following the links, this section is meaningless to me. An encyclopaedia is not the same as a technical reference for those in the field, and the articles need to be more accessible than this. I'd love to contribute, but lack the knowledge, so I'm simply suggesting that the article would benefit from being made more approachable. -- Che Gannarelli ( talk) 21:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I really don't think this is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.156.147.124 ( talk) 19:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
The page has several unnecessary Fact citations, namely the Batman and Who Framed Roger Rabbit entries. These are common facts that are evident from seeing the material or reading the Wikipedia articles on the subject. They are unsuitable for reference, though if you feel a reference needs to be added, a simple link to IMDB would suffice, though it'd be a pointless reference. Do not undo edits regarding this without first commenting on the talk page, and if you feel that these need fact citations, give them references rather than simply re-adding the fact templates. Kevin ( talk) 22:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Citations are always necessary. In particular, You have to prove that laughing gas constitutes fatal hilarity. Please don't remove tags which require following the most basic wikipedia policies. - 7-bubёn >t 23:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Also the very definition in the article is still unreferenced. Is death because of tickling constitutes fatal hilarity? There is nothing hilarious in torture by tickling. - 7-bubёn >t 23:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
There is as many as whooping 7 google books hits for the term. Google scholar fares even worse. Hits from web (if exclude wikipedia & obvcious copycats) did not meke me immediately wiser. While death from laughing is a known phenomenon, the term is clearly not. The article is original synthesis to promote a particular term. I suggest to move it to the descriptive title, Death from laughter , because I cannot even find a decent definition of "fatal hilarity". The word "hilarity" means death of something funny, not from any laughter. There are at quite a few types of laughter which are not funny. - 7-bubёn >t 00:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Following the pop culture "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" reference, someone has appended a "citation needed." Would not the movie itself be the citation? Why would you need a link to somewhere that tells what's in the movie? - GAMEchief ( talk) 17:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
In this article it is said that:
That's in direct contradiction to the information in the Nanda Bayin article:
I'm guessing the latter is correct, but can someone look this over and confirm? Then I can replace the wrong bit of information in the appropriate place. Crusoe704 ( talk) 20:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Similar to this guy, that crashed his car, because he chocked with laughter! http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/driver-died-after-suffering-laughing-fit-at-wheel-of-his-mercedes-inquest-hears/ar-BBoj4yz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.208.181.44 ( talk) 18:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
References
I saw a documentary about comedians from Munkfors ( Olle i Skratthult, Fridolf Rhudin and Bosse Parnevik) and in that they claimed a man laughed to death after a Olle i Skratthult revue. Apparently it was not while watching it, but out in the street when he recalled a funny joke. I don't know how reliable it is since Bosse Parnevik wasn't from Munkfors (he was born in Gothenburg and moved to Munkfors when he was two years old). // Liftarn ( talk) 20:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it wrong that I nearly laughed throughout this whole article? The funniest part was with the drunk donkey that tried to eat figs, when reading that you can imagine the poor Greek laughing his buttocks off, collapsing and finally dying from an overdose of hilarity. I think that in itself is comedy gold. The fact that it is even physically possible to die from laughing is so ridiculous and hilarious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.228.127.175 ( talk) 10:26, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Be wary of poetic irony. But I suppose it's a little funny, the notion that is. 95.109.102.252 ( talk) 02:38, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
During the live broadcast/recording of the Trick or Treat Radio podcast one of the hosts MonsterZero seems to pass out from laughing. Episode 227, Time stamp 1:50:30 Episode 227/ Youtube Link.
It has become a long running joke on the show and also to reference MonsterZero's poor health and Art Bradish's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Chuma Melbourne ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Right now, the page consists of two dubious paragraphs about cause and effect, a link to a list of supposedly-real deaths, and an embedded list of completely fictional deaths. There's no reason to embed a list of fictional deaths in an article about a supposedly-real phenomenon, and there's certainly no reason to have the list of supposedly-real deaths on a different page, especially when it's shorter than the list of fictional deaths.
I would probably remove all the fictional entries except the one from Greek mythology. A story that old could be historically significant and is likely worth mentioning in passing. Otherwise, it's just a random list of fictional stories that's better suited for a TV Tropes article than Wikipedia. At the very least, moving the real deaths to this page would give the page more credibility. 199.127.114.114 ( talk) 05:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
mfw another person says " Among Us" for the 148512354781694201337149871593th time Lallint ( talk) 14:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
So where the article says "Laughter can cause atonia and collapse" there is a link that leads to /info/en/?search=Glossary_of_medicine#Atony, but that is not a recognised 'anchor' on the page.
I'm guessing it's meant to refer to "some sort of disease related to muscle tone", but it doesn't seem to be a well-used phrase just from searching (I am not a medicine guy), and none of the citations seem relevant to that phrase. Which seems odd. Danack ( talk) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)