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davros was originally created as a nazi metaphor (racial supremamicists enclosed in supremacist-designed-machines) Hypothesis....
Terry Nation was so far thinking as to suppose Davros as a metaphor for FUTURE evolution.
to conclude - i think DAVROS was right - the supremacy of MAN and MACHINE[[] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.132.31 ( talk) 20:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure that's right. Let's see:
Most of those are downright reasonable, and the first one beats all the rest for stickyness and implausibility of resolution. (If this had been the Master we were talking about, on the other hand...)
— Paul A 00:51, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Have we got a valid source that this IS his last apperence in "Jorneys End", 100% last apperence ever? Because every "villan" does find a way to come back in some way so should that be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.5.35 ( talk) 16:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, the Daleks were supposedly defeated in "Parting of the Ways" and destroyed forever, (and before that in "Dalek") but they indeed returned, so shouldn't it be same be for Davros? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.138.250.97 ( talk) 13:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC) He returned in the first two episodes of Series 9 64.30.121.179 ( talk) 23:49, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Someone inserted a BBC comment in the middle of a paragraph using [ and ]... needs to be worked into the article. - Tux256ac 04:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Never seen the show, but saw this:
he depended completely upon his mobile life-support chair which enclosed the lower half of his body
Anyone know if this was borrow from Christopher Pike's chair in the original series' "Menagerie" episode?
No, the Dalek's design was only inspired by the fact that the person who was in charge of the design needed them to be seated and moveable at the same time. They used a kiddie's trike to achieve this, and the design was built around this. The BBC canteen room pepper pot story was put around when the designer was trying to explain the Dalek design to a reporter who took it as a great story and so myth happens. Also, the comment about the "ballroom" gowns is wrong - the Dalek design was inspired by the Whirling Dervishes - a middle Eastern tribal dance troupe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.91.254 ( talk) 16:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
After reading the notes for Destiny of the Daleks, I'm now confused as to whether David Gooderson was too small for Michael Wisher's Davros mask, or the mask was too small for him! To me it looked too big for him, and I'm sure that's what I read somewhere, but maybe someone else can clarify... Dave-ros 14:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Is it certain the Davros was merely a head in Remembrance of the Daleks? I might check the DVD again however it looked like he still had his black suit on and the upper portion of his body was visible. The Tollan 00:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
The real Davros still possessed his body in that episode (the head was a decoy). This does not necessarily determine whether or not Davros was supposed to be a head in Remembrance though. The Tollan 02:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I note that almost every change these days is to do with the mind-numbing number of categories... does that mean the article itself is pretty much finished (barring any future Davros-related releases)? Featured article status, perchance? :-P Dave-ros 10:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind. I've installed Davros into the category of Hubris as it is something he exhibits and Fictional characters with mental illness as despite his genius, you can't deny the guy's completely bonkers!
Sooo, in that rambling note were you saying you were removing the Big D from the category of Hubris?
Would you mind terribly if I installed him into the category of Major Doctor Who Villains? Just thought I'd mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.83.229 ( talk • contribs)
I think the Sun thing should be related since from I understand they're claiming it's just a rumor as well.-- Anguirus111 23:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Anyone mind re. the category "Characters introduced in 1975"? 86.17.62.211 22:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
In the recently released Davros boxset there is an extra story from Big Finish entitled The Davros Mission by Nicolas Briggs. Now interestingly this story contradicts the contnuity of BF's previous audio The Juggernauts in that it covers the period of Davros' journey from Necros to Skaro, his subsequent trial and ascendence to role of Emperor. Although I prefer Nick Briggs story I can't help but wonder what headaches this is going to cause for all those people who want to try and reconcile every story in every media into one consistent timeline! android ( talk) 20:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Julian Bleach, who doesnt even have a wikipedia article, is to be the new Davros! However, there is no source. This seems to me to be pure speculation. I think it should be removed because wikipedia is not a crystal ball! TheProf | 2007 13:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have a citation for Wisher basing his performance as Davros on Stefan Elliot? Not least because I can cite interviews with Wisher where he says he based his performance on Bertrand Russell. 80.93.170.99 ( talk) 15:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Who is Stefan Elliot? Type 40 ( talk) 17:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Are there any good sources on Davros coming back this year? Type 40 ( talk) 16:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
See [1]. Is that Davros' travelling machine? Type 40 ( talk) 17:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The Character Options toy mentioned in the article shouldn't have been revealed yet, I think it might have answered the question of series 4 episode 12's unknown title! They aren't supposed to leak the plot! Digifiend ( talk) 14:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, I did put in a bit about the figure which is half Dalek and half human-looking (reported by Newsround) appearing in the "rest of series" trailer, but it got reverted with the comment "No, sorry" - so what the hell do I know? Wikipedia is the source that YOU can edit, only to have someone revert it immediately. I'd put it back on, but it'd get reverted again so, frankly, I can't be bothered. Basically, if it's NOT Davros then its such an amazing Davros rip-off that the production would wish they'd just gone for it. I didn't say it WAS Davros! Speednik ( talk) 10:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I was watching BBC One today, and there was a trailer that came up with an appearance of the Daleks (more than one, so it's not just a one dalek story IE Dalek Caan) near the end, there is a group of Daleks moving across a room, and the camera pans behind them to an unknown entity that has the bottom half of a Dalek and the tradiional blue eye, which is noticeably smaller then the new Daleks eye stalks. The top half of the Dalek (apart from the blue glow of it's eye), is shrouded in darkness. I think that is a clue that Davros is the series 4 villain (or at least a villain of the fourth series). The advert is also on Youtube [2] ,near the end is the mysterious Dalek at the same time you can hear Rose say 'it's coming, Donna. It's coming from across the Stars and nothing can stop it'. The First Darklord ( talk) 00:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
With respect to what we did last year, see WP:OSE. With respect to our policy on original research, see WP:NOR. You cannot state or imply that Davros is back without a reliable source saying that he's back. That is very clearly our policy. If you disagree with the policy, there are venues where you can do that. If you think we should make an exception in this case, then sadly you're goin' to be disappointed. But our policy itself is crystal clear. NO INFORMATION WITHOUT SOURCES. ╟─ TreasuryTag ( talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 20:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
You still don't get it, do you, First Darklord? The trailer IS a reliable source for WHAT IT SHOWS. It shows Rose is back, it shows the Daleks are back. It does NOT SHOW DAVROS IS BACK. The BBC intentionally prevented people from telling whether or not Davros was back. So how can it possibly be a source that he is?! ╟─ TreasuryTag ( talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 07:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I am now closing this discussion. You are simply being disruptive by refusing to understand this simple issue. If you can't understand the reasoning behind it, tough. You are being told in no uncertain terms that nothing about his appearance or not in Series 4 is permissible.
I do understand the true meaning of validity, and your argument is not valid. You say: "it is valid to suggest that a figure in the trailer, which has been deliberately blacked out so as to avoid people identifying it as Davros or anyone else, is Davros". Nope. So please do not continue or the administrators will be informed of your trolling. ╟─ TreasuryTag ( talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 06:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
http://bp2.blogger.com/_GT0-g5YtYTw/SE5w1JhCbII/AAAAAAAACDw/4TNK7pJfMt4/s400/a2j_NewDavros1.jpg was leaked last night. Should this be mentioned in the article? Maybe saying "This can indicate a possible return of Davros" LuGiADude ( talk) 07:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
What's the rush to get the idea that Davros returns in series 4 up on the page? Wait two or three weeks and you'll have all the verifiable evidence you want when the programme goes out! Waiting a couple of weeks won't make any difference to the long-term shape of the article. Marwood ( talk) 12:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this proof, or isn't Digital Spy reliable? And yes, I'm aware I chose my screen name based on Davros, so please don't feel the need to point that out! Dave-ros ( talk) 16:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Due to his new appearance returning to his appearance before Remembrance, being in a dalek like chair, notably with his top half still completely intact, I am now thinking that the idea of him being reduced to head in Remembrance seems to be more of an Original Research claim. Their is no citation, or quotation from Remebrance that supports that Davros ever was reduced to 'just a head'. Even in the confidential there is no mention of him being reduced to just a head, but they did explain that his hand is mechanic because it was shot off in Revelation and had to be replaced. Basically, I doubt Davros was ever supposed to be disguised as a Dalek just because he had no body, and I think the part about him being reduced to a head be removed because lack of evidence or continuity value. If anything he could of diguised himself as a unique Dalek in order to mark himself as the emperor. So if anyone has evidence that supports the quote "By this time, Davros was physically reduced to a head in a customised Dalek casing" please discuss, if not, I vote the qute be removed or replaced with the more suitable "Davros was disguised as the Dalek Emperor in a customised Dalek casing" orsomthing along those lines. The First Darklord ( talk) 18:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
We used to have images of each of the four actors who played Davros on this page, but most of them were deleted in a recent IfD. The argument made at the time was that four fair use images were too many for the article. Somehow, what we were left with after the deletion is an image of Julian Bleach as Davros and an image of David Gooderson as Davros. It's a fairly widespread opinion that Gooderson's version of the character is the least impressive; I'd argue that he's also the least encyclopedic. Better cases can be made for Wisher (who originated the role; I've recently added some more out-of-universe material about his interpretation), for Molloy (who played the role most often; the article should have more out-of-universe material about his version as well), and/or for Bleach (as the most recent actor; here, we have a good amount of out-of-universe content and critical commentary to support the image).
I've spoken to the admin who closed those deletions and the person who nominated them, and they've agreed that it would be OK if we removed the Gooderson image and replaced it with one of Wisher or Molloy. My personal leaning is towards a Wisher pic. I've captured three screen shots from the photo section of the Genesis DVD, and put them up on Photobucket for your examination: see images 1, 2 and 3. Does anyone have a preference about which of these three would be best for the article? Or would anyone like to make a case for Molloy, or even for keeping the Gooderson picture?
After we choose an image, I can jump through the various hoops for the upload and make sure it's got the right fair use rationale, etc. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 21:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've added that image as Image:WisherDavros.png. I hope that the fair use rationale and such are all correct. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 02:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Davros was indeed at the Proms, as you can hear by listening to the concert on iPlayer, and also confirmed in The Times (among other sources). I assume that it was Julian Bleach under the mask, but I haven't found any confirmation of that (I probably shouldn't have added that to Julian Bleach, actually). Anyone got a source for Bleach at the Proms? — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
One single link in an apparently joke website in a non-english website is pretty dubious. Imaslee pviking ( talk ) 03:18, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Given that the BBC is being sued over the design of Davros (that it was actually created by Stewart Clark, who was a schoolboy at the time), where does this leave this article? Do we say that 'the consensus is that it was designed by Terry Nation' for the time being? Or do we just leave things as they are at the top, but just add a new section? 92.25.161.76 ( talk) 17:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
I think that it should be mentioned near the end of the article as it is a real court case and not just idle gossip. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.24.67.34 ( talk) 16:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
The court case is ongoing according to the 'Doctor Who News' site. It should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.112.24.9 ( talk) 17:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
In the "Revived series" section, it states "Davros is then shown in "Fear Her," in a drawing on Chloe's wall. I haven't the episode for some time now, but I do not recall this happening. Is this Vandalisim (which I'm pretty sure it is) or actually true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babelcolour5 ( talk • contribs) 13:00, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
After watching "Genesis of the Daleks" just now, I have noticed 2 things about Davros that might explain his condition: he will experiment obsessively on anything, especially his own race, and he wants to live forever (from the way he shouts that he will live forever). He also appears incredibly ancient. I propose that he is his own best experimental subject, that he has performed experiments on himself to prolong his life, and that his appearance is caused by this and the shutting down, one by one, of his organs. There was no accident, just old age. This is why he had to fight for his science. His methods have always been unethical, and yeah his people are pretty Nazi in their methods, but the other Kaleds seem to draw the line far sooner than he. Thetrellan ( talk) 19:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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I notice someone has added information on the "mixed" reception to RTD's comments on changing Davros' design for 'Destination: Skaro'. I think we start discussing reception to an individual creative choice at our peril. Reception to individual episodes or pieces of media is different as this can be more easily aggregated. But things like "fan reaction" is nebulous and hard to gauge. Moreover, it opens a can of worms historically, since we should (by this logic) always be recording fan reactions to every change for every character. Perhaps comments on fan reaction to Davros is better left to the Reception section of the minisode (or the 60th anniversary specials page) rather than the character page. AtticusFink6 ( talk) 17:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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davros was originally created as a nazi metaphor (racial supremamicists enclosed in supremacist-designed-machines) Hypothesis....
Terry Nation was so far thinking as to suppose Davros as a metaphor for FUTURE evolution.
to conclude - i think DAVROS was right - the supremacy of MAN and MACHINE[[] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.132.31 ( talk) 20:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure that's right. Let's see:
Most of those are downright reasonable, and the first one beats all the rest for stickyness and implausibility of resolution. (If this had been the Master we were talking about, on the other hand...)
— Paul A 00:51, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Have we got a valid source that this IS his last apperence in "Jorneys End", 100% last apperence ever? Because every "villan" does find a way to come back in some way so should that be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.5.35 ( talk) 16:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, the Daleks were supposedly defeated in "Parting of the Ways" and destroyed forever, (and before that in "Dalek") but they indeed returned, so shouldn't it be same be for Davros? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.138.250.97 ( talk) 13:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC) He returned in the first two episodes of Series 9 64.30.121.179 ( talk) 23:49, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Someone inserted a BBC comment in the middle of a paragraph using [ and ]... needs to be worked into the article. - Tux256ac 04:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Never seen the show, but saw this:
he depended completely upon his mobile life-support chair which enclosed the lower half of his body
Anyone know if this was borrow from Christopher Pike's chair in the original series' "Menagerie" episode?
No, the Dalek's design was only inspired by the fact that the person who was in charge of the design needed them to be seated and moveable at the same time. They used a kiddie's trike to achieve this, and the design was built around this. The BBC canteen room pepper pot story was put around when the designer was trying to explain the Dalek design to a reporter who took it as a great story and so myth happens. Also, the comment about the "ballroom" gowns is wrong - the Dalek design was inspired by the Whirling Dervishes - a middle Eastern tribal dance troupe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.91.254 ( talk) 16:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
After reading the notes for Destiny of the Daleks, I'm now confused as to whether David Gooderson was too small for Michael Wisher's Davros mask, or the mask was too small for him! To me it looked too big for him, and I'm sure that's what I read somewhere, but maybe someone else can clarify... Dave-ros 14:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Is it certain the Davros was merely a head in Remembrance of the Daleks? I might check the DVD again however it looked like he still had his black suit on and the upper portion of his body was visible. The Tollan 00:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
The real Davros still possessed his body in that episode (the head was a decoy). This does not necessarily determine whether or not Davros was supposed to be a head in Remembrance though. The Tollan 02:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I note that almost every change these days is to do with the mind-numbing number of categories... does that mean the article itself is pretty much finished (barring any future Davros-related releases)? Featured article status, perchance? :-P Dave-ros 10:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind. I've installed Davros into the category of Hubris as it is something he exhibits and Fictional characters with mental illness as despite his genius, you can't deny the guy's completely bonkers!
Sooo, in that rambling note were you saying you were removing the Big D from the category of Hubris?
Would you mind terribly if I installed him into the category of Major Doctor Who Villains? Just thought I'd mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.83.229 ( talk • contribs)
I think the Sun thing should be related since from I understand they're claiming it's just a rumor as well.-- Anguirus111 23:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Anyone mind re. the category "Characters introduced in 1975"? 86.17.62.211 22:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
In the recently released Davros boxset there is an extra story from Big Finish entitled The Davros Mission by Nicolas Briggs. Now interestingly this story contradicts the contnuity of BF's previous audio The Juggernauts in that it covers the period of Davros' journey from Necros to Skaro, his subsequent trial and ascendence to role of Emperor. Although I prefer Nick Briggs story I can't help but wonder what headaches this is going to cause for all those people who want to try and reconcile every story in every media into one consistent timeline! android ( talk) 20:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Julian Bleach, who doesnt even have a wikipedia article, is to be the new Davros! However, there is no source. This seems to me to be pure speculation. I think it should be removed because wikipedia is not a crystal ball! TheProf | 2007 13:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone have a citation for Wisher basing his performance as Davros on Stefan Elliot? Not least because I can cite interviews with Wisher where he says he based his performance on Bertrand Russell. 80.93.170.99 ( talk) 15:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Who is Stefan Elliot? Type 40 ( talk) 17:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Are there any good sources on Davros coming back this year? Type 40 ( talk) 16:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
See [1]. Is that Davros' travelling machine? Type 40 ( talk) 17:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The Character Options toy mentioned in the article shouldn't have been revealed yet, I think it might have answered the question of series 4 episode 12's unknown title! They aren't supposed to leak the plot! Digifiend ( talk) 14:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, I did put in a bit about the figure which is half Dalek and half human-looking (reported by Newsround) appearing in the "rest of series" trailer, but it got reverted with the comment "No, sorry" - so what the hell do I know? Wikipedia is the source that YOU can edit, only to have someone revert it immediately. I'd put it back on, but it'd get reverted again so, frankly, I can't be bothered. Basically, if it's NOT Davros then its such an amazing Davros rip-off that the production would wish they'd just gone for it. I didn't say it WAS Davros! Speednik ( talk) 10:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I was watching BBC One today, and there was a trailer that came up with an appearance of the Daleks (more than one, so it's not just a one dalek story IE Dalek Caan) near the end, there is a group of Daleks moving across a room, and the camera pans behind them to an unknown entity that has the bottom half of a Dalek and the tradiional blue eye, which is noticeably smaller then the new Daleks eye stalks. The top half of the Dalek (apart from the blue glow of it's eye), is shrouded in darkness. I think that is a clue that Davros is the series 4 villain (or at least a villain of the fourth series). The advert is also on Youtube [2] ,near the end is the mysterious Dalek at the same time you can hear Rose say 'it's coming, Donna. It's coming from across the Stars and nothing can stop it'. The First Darklord ( talk) 00:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
With respect to what we did last year, see WP:OSE. With respect to our policy on original research, see WP:NOR. You cannot state or imply that Davros is back without a reliable source saying that he's back. That is very clearly our policy. If you disagree with the policy, there are venues where you can do that. If you think we should make an exception in this case, then sadly you're goin' to be disappointed. But our policy itself is crystal clear. NO INFORMATION WITHOUT SOURCES. ╟─ TreasuryTag ( talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 20:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
You still don't get it, do you, First Darklord? The trailer IS a reliable source for WHAT IT SHOWS. It shows Rose is back, it shows the Daleks are back. It does NOT SHOW DAVROS IS BACK. The BBC intentionally prevented people from telling whether or not Davros was back. So how can it possibly be a source that he is?! ╟─ TreasuryTag ( talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 07:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I am now closing this discussion. You are simply being disruptive by refusing to understand this simple issue. If you can't understand the reasoning behind it, tough. You are being told in no uncertain terms that nothing about his appearance or not in Series 4 is permissible.
I do understand the true meaning of validity, and your argument is not valid. You say: "it is valid to suggest that a figure in the trailer, which has been deliberately blacked out so as to avoid people identifying it as Davros or anyone else, is Davros". Nope. So please do not continue or the administrators will be informed of your trolling. ╟─ TreasuryTag ( talk ╬ contribs)─╢ 06:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
http://bp2.blogger.com/_GT0-g5YtYTw/SE5w1JhCbII/AAAAAAAACDw/4TNK7pJfMt4/s400/a2j_NewDavros1.jpg was leaked last night. Should this be mentioned in the article? Maybe saying "This can indicate a possible return of Davros" LuGiADude ( talk) 07:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
What's the rush to get the idea that Davros returns in series 4 up on the page? Wait two or three weeks and you'll have all the verifiable evidence you want when the programme goes out! Waiting a couple of weeks won't make any difference to the long-term shape of the article. Marwood ( talk) 12:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this proof, or isn't Digital Spy reliable? And yes, I'm aware I chose my screen name based on Davros, so please don't feel the need to point that out! Dave-ros ( talk) 16:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Due to his new appearance returning to his appearance before Remembrance, being in a dalek like chair, notably with his top half still completely intact, I am now thinking that the idea of him being reduced to head in Remembrance seems to be more of an Original Research claim. Their is no citation, or quotation from Remebrance that supports that Davros ever was reduced to 'just a head'. Even in the confidential there is no mention of him being reduced to just a head, but they did explain that his hand is mechanic because it was shot off in Revelation and had to be replaced. Basically, I doubt Davros was ever supposed to be disguised as a Dalek just because he had no body, and I think the part about him being reduced to a head be removed because lack of evidence or continuity value. If anything he could of diguised himself as a unique Dalek in order to mark himself as the emperor. So if anyone has evidence that supports the quote "By this time, Davros was physically reduced to a head in a customised Dalek casing" please discuss, if not, I vote the qute be removed or replaced with the more suitable "Davros was disguised as the Dalek Emperor in a customised Dalek casing" orsomthing along those lines. The First Darklord ( talk) 18:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
We used to have images of each of the four actors who played Davros on this page, but most of them were deleted in a recent IfD. The argument made at the time was that four fair use images were too many for the article. Somehow, what we were left with after the deletion is an image of Julian Bleach as Davros and an image of David Gooderson as Davros. It's a fairly widespread opinion that Gooderson's version of the character is the least impressive; I'd argue that he's also the least encyclopedic. Better cases can be made for Wisher (who originated the role; I've recently added some more out-of-universe material about his interpretation), for Molloy (who played the role most often; the article should have more out-of-universe material about his version as well), and/or for Bleach (as the most recent actor; here, we have a good amount of out-of-universe content and critical commentary to support the image).
I've spoken to the admin who closed those deletions and the person who nominated them, and they've agreed that it would be OK if we removed the Gooderson image and replaced it with one of Wisher or Molloy. My personal leaning is towards a Wisher pic. I've captured three screen shots from the photo section of the Genesis DVD, and put them up on Photobucket for your examination: see images 1, 2 and 3. Does anyone have a preference about which of these three would be best for the article? Or would anyone like to make a case for Molloy, or even for keeping the Gooderson picture?
After we choose an image, I can jump through the various hoops for the upload and make sure it's got the right fair use rationale, etc. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 21:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've added that image as Image:WisherDavros.png. I hope that the fair use rationale and such are all correct. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 02:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Davros was indeed at the Proms, as you can hear by listening to the concert on iPlayer, and also confirmed in The Times (among other sources). I assume that it was Julian Bleach under the mask, but I haven't found any confirmation of that (I probably shouldn't have added that to Julian Bleach, actually). Anyone got a source for Bleach at the Proms? — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
One single link in an apparently joke website in a non-english website is pretty dubious. Imaslee pviking ( talk ) 03:18, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Given that the BBC is being sued over the design of Davros (that it was actually created by Stewart Clark, who was a schoolboy at the time), where does this leave this article? Do we say that 'the consensus is that it was designed by Terry Nation' for the time being? Or do we just leave things as they are at the top, but just add a new section? 92.25.161.76 ( talk) 17:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
I think that it should be mentioned near the end of the article as it is a real court case and not just idle gossip. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.24.67.34 ( talk) 16:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
The court case is ongoing according to the 'Doctor Who News' site. It should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.112.24.9 ( talk) 17:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
In the "Revived series" section, it states "Davros is then shown in "Fear Her," in a drawing on Chloe's wall. I haven't the episode for some time now, but I do not recall this happening. Is this Vandalisim (which I'm pretty sure it is) or actually true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babelcolour5 ( talk • contribs) 13:00, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
After watching "Genesis of the Daleks" just now, I have noticed 2 things about Davros that might explain his condition: he will experiment obsessively on anything, especially his own race, and he wants to live forever (from the way he shouts that he will live forever). He also appears incredibly ancient. I propose that he is his own best experimental subject, that he has performed experiments on himself to prolong his life, and that his appearance is caused by this and the shutting down, one by one, of his organs. There was no accident, just old age. This is why he had to fight for his science. His methods have always been unethical, and yeah his people are pretty Nazi in their methods, but the other Kaleds seem to draw the line far sooner than he. Thetrellan ( talk) 19:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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I notice someone has added information on the "mixed" reception to RTD's comments on changing Davros' design for 'Destination: Skaro'. I think we start discussing reception to an individual creative choice at our peril. Reception to individual episodes or pieces of media is different as this can be more easily aggregated. But things like "fan reaction" is nebulous and hard to gauge. Moreover, it opens a can of worms historically, since we should (by this logic) always be recording fan reactions to every change for every character. Perhaps comments on fan reaction to Davros is better left to the Reception section of the minisode (or the 60th anniversary specials page) rather than the character page. AtticusFink6 ( talk) 17:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)