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Vandals like putting up nonsense about Yostmania. Note that Yostmania is described as sweeping the globe, but David Yost only a C list US celebrity. Googling for Yostmania produces only wikipedia and wikipedia mirrors. Tbjablin 19:44, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The linked forums have only 17 and 400 posts. Yostmania is a private joke or obsession. Please stop adding the Yostmania section. Tbjablin 14:05, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yostmania is a proven phenomenon. I would like to refer you also to the songs written about David Yost, the fans writing themselves into romantic situations with David Yost in Yost-related fan fiction, and fansites clearly showing worship to Yost (all of which are linked in the Yostmania section). Many of these fans are worldwide, and not just in the US. For example, the song linked that was written about Yost was written by a man located in Australia. - A Yostmania Advocate 17:18, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)
Seconding the inspiring testimony of "A Yostmania Advocate". Tbjablin would like you to believe that "vandals" like putting up "nonsense" about Yostmania. Nothing could be further from the truth, and quite frankly these accusations are offensive to myself and other Yost enthusiasts. I would like to begin by pointing out that I personally created and maintain wikipedia's article on David Yost. This article pops up several times when googling David Yost which I think is proof of its quality. As an obviously enthusiastic and serious member of the Yost fan community why would I write an entire section pertaining to Yost which simply wasn't true? And the fact is, I am responsible for the creation of the Yostmania section, and I continue to authorize its inclusion in the article by fellow faithful Yost fans. Vandalism, my friend, is the malicious defacing or destruction of property. If I painted a gang insignia on my own house, you could not force me to remove it unless it caused you some kind of distress. The same applies to intellectual property. As I see it, the only people who could say this act of "vandalism" is causing them reasonable distress are Yost purists who are unfamiliar with the concept of Yostmania. But is not this obsession with what you percieve as accuracy in Yost-related journalism a form of Yostmania itself? And then there is the matter of your own offensive comments relating to Yost's celebrity status. Such degredation of an article's subject is hardly the kind of thing that is appropriate for publication on this website, even if it is only in this discussion section. You speak as if you are an accredited authority on the subject of David Yost, yet you make biased and bitter statements about him. If, as you say, we have vandalized this website with our comments about David Yost than you have done the same here. And a low post count in the forums proves nothing. These forums are less than a year old, and are not advertised at all. Admittedly, Yost does not command the same fanbase as some other hollywood stars, but one exists nonetheless, and it is a healthy one. And by the way, I do not and never did reside in the United States, and the same can be said of many of my fellow Yost enthusiasts. If Yostmania isn't sweeping the globe, than how is it that we are keenly aware of this "C List U.S. Celebrity"?
Googling for "David Yost" yields about 10k hits. "Lock Haven, PA" has a population of 10k and has 55k google hits. "Dustin Diamond" scores 17k hits, and I consider him to be pretty C-level. You may feel very strongly about David Yost, and there may be others like you, but that doesn't make it a mania sweeping the globe or an important social phenomena. This article doesn't belong to anyone. Everytime you hit submit there's a warning at the bottom say:
Tbjablin 06:02, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Why is it that you think your knowledge on David Yost and things pertaining to him exceeds the combined knowledge of at least TWO David Yost enthusiasts, combined? - A Yostmania Advocate 16:53, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)
What matters is that there are simply not enough Yostmaniacs to render the topic encylopedic. Wikipedia cannot catalog every pursuit, opinion, or hobby. Tbjablin 07:05, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This article has been protected as a result of a request on WP:RFPP owing to edit warring. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 18:09, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Regardless of how many Yostmaniacs there are, the condition still exists. The only reason why everything cannot be catalogued on Wikipedia is that no one could possibly add all of those articles. Yostmania was already catalogued, and thus there was no need to remove it, or call it nonsense, as you admitted that there were at least SOME Yostmaniacs. - A Yostmania Advocate
If you can't even put a verifiable ballpark figure there, it's not encyclopedic. You should do what the Star Wars fans did--spread a rumor around census time that if people list Yostmania as their religion then Yostmania will become an official religion in their country. They did that in the UK census and we ended up with more Jedi knights than Jews. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 02:02, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think that the best proof of Yostmania lies in the united effort of a few David Yost fans in their hopes of bringing down an ignorant person such as Tbjablin. "Yost World" currently has a thread which clearly displays a certain member's thoughts and feelings about Tbjablin's ignorance towards such a topic. If Tbjablin, truly feels that he/she is correct, surely he/she will read that entire first post and acknowledge points made by his/her opposition to further understand where they are coming from in order to make this dispute fruitful and not a waste of everyone's time. -- A deeply offended Yostmaniac
Several people posting on a fan site does not make a mania. Lets look at the claims one by one:
1. "As a result of old Power Rangers episodes being discovered by former fans, a phenomenon known as "Yostmania" is currently sweeping the globe"
2. "with some extreme Yost fans going as far as to write songs about him ( http://www.geocities.com/peter84au/davidsong.html) or even write themselves into Yost-related fan fiction"
3. There are also numerous Yost related fansites on the internet, including "The Yost" ( http://www.pcshock.com/PRMania/Billy/index.html) as well as a comprehensive Yost forum ( http://s4.invisionfree.com/Yost_World/index.php?act=idx).
4. Yost has also had a major impact on the vernacular. High School students have been known to quote Yost quite frequently, most notably by saying "you ooze you lose" or "oh no". Yost's own name has even become a word with many uses, for example a "yost" is a person, animal, or inanimate object of sub-par quality; "yosting it" or "pulling a yost" is to fail at a task, especially one which any competent person should be able to do. This is not to be confused with "yosting someone" which means to put them in a position of disadvantage, to let them down, or to otherwise cause them some trouble as a result of your own imcompetance. When someone does this to you, you can say you were "yosted". For example, those who doubted that Yostmania exists are "Yosts" and have been rightfully "Yosted".
1. If you have a problem with only the part about "sweeping the globe" then change only that. Do not just remove it.
2. Why not? It further backs up the fact that there are extreme Yost enthusiasts (or Yostmaniacs).
3. The idea of Yostmania is that the fans are extreme fans, and that they are still enthusiasts many years after the end to his major acting career. The idea is not the number of Yostmaniacs, but the level of enthusiasm.
4. Some of those googled results are the following websites, with the following quotes in them. And by the way, my googling of Yosted turned up 63 results. If your statement was true, then this shows a HUGE growth in the use of the term.
http://www.atlantainjurylawblog.com/offers-of-judgment-57-yost-deja-vu-wisdom-of-no-first-use-policy-on-offers-of-judgment.html This is an official site from a law firm, it is not something just made up. I quote from the 2nd paragraph "For three years afterward, plaintiff and defense lawyers 'Yosted' each other in a high percentage of cases."
http://p092.ezboard.com/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm1.showMessage?topicID=497.topic This is a fan forum of a baseball team, with no real affiliation to the Yost community, and one of the posters (who has been a member since 2003) defines in his signature the term Yosted. "Yosted (v.) - To be a player of marginal talent who has been inserted in the lineup everyday because of ability to 'battle'"
- A Yostmania Advocate
I thought what I wrote was a pretty fair attempt at compromise. If you don't like my edits try to improve them instead of blindly reverting. The reason I did not reply during the protected period was that I was happy with what Tony Sideways said, and I do no think you substantailly rebutted it. Tbjablin 00:29, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The legal website uses the term "yosted" in a context that appears to have no relationship to David Yost, but refers instead to a Georgia legal precedent of 1986 (when the Yost of this wikipedia article was fifteen years old) known as Yost V. Torak. The Brewers reference gives a meaning of "yosted" that is related to a baseball player known as Edgar Frederick "Ned" Yost who played Major League from 1980-1985. He was with the Brewers from 1977 until 1983. The term "yosted" as used in the sense of David Yost doesn't seem to have much currency, but in my personal opinion (as a fellow Wikipedia editor) it may merit a mention and an explanation of the meaning in the article. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 12:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think we are getting closer to a compromise. Can you find any evidence of Yost being used in the ways described in the article? If so, let's link it. Also, are you sure that this is most common in high schools? From what I understand Power Rangers was most popular with pre-teens, so wouldn't it make more sense if Yost were quoted by middle schoolers? I must confess I have never seen Yost used the way you describe. Who have you seen use this word? Could it be that the word is used exclusively among Yost maniacs? If I saw someone use Yost as a noun or a verb it would suggest to me that that person is a Yostmaniac. Another puzzle is why Yostmaniacs use Yost's name in a derogatory fashion. Further, are we sure that this is not a geography specific use of the word? I live in the eastern United States. Maybe this usage is more common in another part of the world. If so, we should include that information in the article. Tbjablin 23:42, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad we're coming to an agreement. I'm fairly sure that it is most common in high schools currently, as the generation that were pre-teens (and thus in the target audience) at the time of the show's creation are now growing up, and in thier teenage years are reliving thier childhood through watching old power rangers episodes. Regarding the possibility of the word being regional dialect, I live in eastern Canada and it is a fairly common term, mainly among high school students. - A Yostmania Advocate
I think we should assume this word is specific to Eastern Canada until we can get some other documentation. I live in the Eastern United States and have never heard the word used this way. I think the view that this is a highly regional phenomena is consistent with the levels of use seen on the Internet. Certainly, we don't want to give the impression that Yost is entering the British or Australain lexicon. Tbjablin 00:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough. I'm in agreement with teh current state of the page, so it seems we've come to terms. I'm glad this worked out. - A Yostmania Advocate
Why is Yost in a derogatory way by Yostmaniacs? Tbjablin 13:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
To those planning on editting out the Yostmania section: There was already an arguement over it and a moderator was involved and an agreement was reached over the content. There is no need to further remove any of it.
The whole Yostmania section is a joke. I can't believe this article is protected due to the ramblings of a few trolls who claim to have a "spiritual interest" in such a low level celebrity. This section should be removed immediately, it's completely unencyclopedic and reads like some sort of practical joke or trolling. SchnappM 21:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
You're incorrect. Why do you think an agreement was reached under the supervision of a mod?
I have no idea. It boggles my mind. Maybe it's because 24.141.254.74 is a "n00b times infinity"? SchnappM 03:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC), a deeply offended sane person
Oh, and hey! I found out exactly what the right term is for the "Yostmania" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFT But I don't really want to bother with this any further, so hopefully someone else will take care of it. SchnappM 10:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Why are you quoting "n00b times infinity" and attaching it to my IP? That was not my adittion to the talk page (if you'd check the history, it was made by a user of a different IP.) All of my posts have been made in a mature manner. I don't appreciate your calling me "n00b times infinity" without any reason. I assume you were doing that because you thought that it was my comment that originally contained that, but it was not.
And furthermore, I don't appreciate your signature implying that I am insane.
I'm curious. The article mentions that Yost married a childhood sweetheart named "Louis". Does this mean Yost is gay? Kidicarus222 23:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
My guess is yes. It said it was a commitment ceremony. Kind of curious why it got deleted on 5 April. Maybe it's not true or they broke up or something? RexTraverse 05:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
why was it deleted??i hope it was simply because the info was wrong, or mr yost wanted his private life to remain private. any other reason for the info to be deleted is just wrong- who ever decided to delete it should explain why he/she deleted it -
A lot of these quotes would probably go under the Billy Cranston page instead of the Yost page because it is the character that said them, not the actor. wonduhbread 07:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Yostmania section again, because this does not appear to be relevant to David's Yost's notability. I based this decision on the combination of the following principles:
1) WP:Verifiability: The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain.
2) Wikipedia:Reliable sources-- Personal websites as secondary sources: Personal websites and blogs should not be used as secondary sources. That is, they should not be used as sources of information about a person or topic other than the owner of the website.
3) Reliable Sources -- Self-published sources in articles about themselves: Material from self-published sources, and other published sources of dubious reliability, may be used as sources of information about themselves in articles about themselves, so long as: It is relevant to the person's notability; It is not contentious; It is not unduly self-serving; It is not contradicted by reliable, third-party published sources; It does not involve claims about third parties, or about events not directly related to the subject; There is no reasonable doubt about who wrote it.
I realize there's been some discussion of this before, but the issue was not resolved from what I can observe. "Yostmania" gets just over a hundred hits on google, the was majority of which refer back to this article in one form or another. As for "numerous" David Yost fansites on the web, I found two. Unless someone can prove this is significant part of why David Yost is notable, the term shouldn't be here. As was stated above, "the high enthusiasm of a small minority is not encyclopedic". -- Lee Bailey (talk) 03:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Regarding point 3, why is this irrelevant to the notability of Yostmaniacs? What is a fact that is MORE notable regarding Yostmaniacs?
Regarding the fan sites, you could only find 2? I'll take about 30 seconds of time here and list what comes up from Yahoo on David Yost (in terms of fansites)
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7689/ www.geocities.com/peter84au/david.html http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3933/ www.angelfire.com/falcon/film3/DavidYost.html http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4931/yost.html http://www.pcshock.com/PRMania/index.html (not exclusively Yost, but has an undisputable focus on him)
I did not look beyond the first page of results. Perhaps a different set is coming up for you.
Furthermore, I disagree that "a high level of enthusiasm among a small group of people is not encyclopedic." If there was a small faction of Hitler enthusiasts being called "Hitlermaniacs", everyone would think it was encyclopedic.
Regarding "Regarding Point 3": The phenomenon of Yostmania is not based on the fact that David Yost has MANY fans so much as it is based on the fact that he maintains a devout following many years after his carreer as a mainstream celebrity ended. Yost has not been seen in a major role of a television show since 1996 (and even that role was diminishing). Amy Jo Johnson has a successful career in Music (and musicians tend to have more devout fans than television actors). Keanu Reaves has been the star of a relatively recent box-office hit TRILOGY of movies, as well as numerous other A-list films in the past few years. Yostmania is a phenomenon noting the level of enthusiasm of the fans, as well as the extreme length of time for which they are remaining devout fans. EDIT: Also, I do nmot see what the problem would be if there was a fan-created term that pertains to the actor, and that term was added to that actor's profile. I think it's notable that there are multiple fans using the person's name in words for everyday speech, it certainly says something about the person.
Everybody here seems to have forgotten that an agreement was reached with respect to the Yostmania section, which involved a Wikipedia moderator. This section should not be taken down and the precedent set by that moderator should not be ignored. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.199.18.113 ( talk • contribs) .
Is there a better one? To be honest, he looks like he's in pain in that one... Michael 01:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
It looks like a screenshot from a video. Was that funeral taped or something? --- Silent RAGE! 23:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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Vandals like putting up nonsense about Yostmania. Note that Yostmania is described as sweeping the globe, but David Yost only a C list US celebrity. Googling for Yostmania produces only wikipedia and wikipedia mirrors. Tbjablin 19:44, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The linked forums have only 17 and 400 posts. Yostmania is a private joke or obsession. Please stop adding the Yostmania section. Tbjablin 14:05, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yostmania is a proven phenomenon. I would like to refer you also to the songs written about David Yost, the fans writing themselves into romantic situations with David Yost in Yost-related fan fiction, and fansites clearly showing worship to Yost (all of which are linked in the Yostmania section). Many of these fans are worldwide, and not just in the US. For example, the song linked that was written about Yost was written by a man located in Australia. - A Yostmania Advocate 17:18, 29 Mar 2005 (EST)
Seconding the inspiring testimony of "A Yostmania Advocate". Tbjablin would like you to believe that "vandals" like putting up "nonsense" about Yostmania. Nothing could be further from the truth, and quite frankly these accusations are offensive to myself and other Yost enthusiasts. I would like to begin by pointing out that I personally created and maintain wikipedia's article on David Yost. This article pops up several times when googling David Yost which I think is proof of its quality. As an obviously enthusiastic and serious member of the Yost fan community why would I write an entire section pertaining to Yost which simply wasn't true? And the fact is, I am responsible for the creation of the Yostmania section, and I continue to authorize its inclusion in the article by fellow faithful Yost fans. Vandalism, my friend, is the malicious defacing or destruction of property. If I painted a gang insignia on my own house, you could not force me to remove it unless it caused you some kind of distress. The same applies to intellectual property. As I see it, the only people who could say this act of "vandalism" is causing them reasonable distress are Yost purists who are unfamiliar with the concept of Yostmania. But is not this obsession with what you percieve as accuracy in Yost-related journalism a form of Yostmania itself? And then there is the matter of your own offensive comments relating to Yost's celebrity status. Such degredation of an article's subject is hardly the kind of thing that is appropriate for publication on this website, even if it is only in this discussion section. You speak as if you are an accredited authority on the subject of David Yost, yet you make biased and bitter statements about him. If, as you say, we have vandalized this website with our comments about David Yost than you have done the same here. And a low post count in the forums proves nothing. These forums are less than a year old, and are not advertised at all. Admittedly, Yost does not command the same fanbase as some other hollywood stars, but one exists nonetheless, and it is a healthy one. And by the way, I do not and never did reside in the United States, and the same can be said of many of my fellow Yost enthusiasts. If Yostmania isn't sweeping the globe, than how is it that we are keenly aware of this "C List U.S. Celebrity"?
Googling for "David Yost" yields about 10k hits. "Lock Haven, PA" has a population of 10k and has 55k google hits. "Dustin Diamond" scores 17k hits, and I consider him to be pretty C-level. You may feel very strongly about David Yost, and there may be others like you, but that doesn't make it a mania sweeping the globe or an important social phenomena. This article doesn't belong to anyone. Everytime you hit submit there's a warning at the bottom say:
Tbjablin 06:02, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Why is it that you think your knowledge on David Yost and things pertaining to him exceeds the combined knowledge of at least TWO David Yost enthusiasts, combined? - A Yostmania Advocate 16:53, 30 Mar 2005 (EST)
What matters is that there are simply not enough Yostmaniacs to render the topic encylopedic. Wikipedia cannot catalog every pursuit, opinion, or hobby. Tbjablin 07:05, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This article has been protected as a result of a request on WP:RFPP owing to edit warring. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 18:09, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Regardless of how many Yostmaniacs there are, the condition still exists. The only reason why everything cannot be catalogued on Wikipedia is that no one could possibly add all of those articles. Yostmania was already catalogued, and thus there was no need to remove it, or call it nonsense, as you admitted that there were at least SOME Yostmaniacs. - A Yostmania Advocate
If you can't even put a verifiable ballpark figure there, it's not encyclopedic. You should do what the Star Wars fans did--spread a rumor around census time that if people list Yostmania as their religion then Yostmania will become an official religion in their country. They did that in the UK census and we ended up with more Jedi knights than Jews. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 02:02, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think that the best proof of Yostmania lies in the united effort of a few David Yost fans in their hopes of bringing down an ignorant person such as Tbjablin. "Yost World" currently has a thread which clearly displays a certain member's thoughts and feelings about Tbjablin's ignorance towards such a topic. If Tbjablin, truly feels that he/she is correct, surely he/she will read that entire first post and acknowledge points made by his/her opposition to further understand where they are coming from in order to make this dispute fruitful and not a waste of everyone's time. -- A deeply offended Yostmaniac
Several people posting on a fan site does not make a mania. Lets look at the claims one by one:
1. "As a result of old Power Rangers episodes being discovered by former fans, a phenomenon known as "Yostmania" is currently sweeping the globe"
2. "with some extreme Yost fans going as far as to write songs about him ( http://www.geocities.com/peter84au/davidsong.html) or even write themselves into Yost-related fan fiction"
3. There are also numerous Yost related fansites on the internet, including "The Yost" ( http://www.pcshock.com/PRMania/Billy/index.html) as well as a comprehensive Yost forum ( http://s4.invisionfree.com/Yost_World/index.php?act=idx).
4. Yost has also had a major impact on the vernacular. High School students have been known to quote Yost quite frequently, most notably by saying "you ooze you lose" or "oh no". Yost's own name has even become a word with many uses, for example a "yost" is a person, animal, or inanimate object of sub-par quality; "yosting it" or "pulling a yost" is to fail at a task, especially one which any competent person should be able to do. This is not to be confused with "yosting someone" which means to put them in a position of disadvantage, to let them down, or to otherwise cause them some trouble as a result of your own imcompetance. When someone does this to you, you can say you were "yosted". For example, those who doubted that Yostmania exists are "Yosts" and have been rightfully "Yosted".
1. If you have a problem with only the part about "sweeping the globe" then change only that. Do not just remove it.
2. Why not? It further backs up the fact that there are extreme Yost enthusiasts (or Yostmaniacs).
3. The idea of Yostmania is that the fans are extreme fans, and that they are still enthusiasts many years after the end to his major acting career. The idea is not the number of Yostmaniacs, but the level of enthusiasm.
4. Some of those googled results are the following websites, with the following quotes in them. And by the way, my googling of Yosted turned up 63 results. If your statement was true, then this shows a HUGE growth in the use of the term.
http://www.atlantainjurylawblog.com/offers-of-judgment-57-yost-deja-vu-wisdom-of-no-first-use-policy-on-offers-of-judgment.html This is an official site from a law firm, it is not something just made up. I quote from the 2nd paragraph "For three years afterward, plaintiff and defense lawyers 'Yosted' each other in a high percentage of cases."
http://p092.ezboard.com/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm1.showMessage?topicID=497.topic This is a fan forum of a baseball team, with no real affiliation to the Yost community, and one of the posters (who has been a member since 2003) defines in his signature the term Yosted. "Yosted (v.) - To be a player of marginal talent who has been inserted in the lineup everyday because of ability to 'battle'"
- A Yostmania Advocate
I thought what I wrote was a pretty fair attempt at compromise. If you don't like my edits try to improve them instead of blindly reverting. The reason I did not reply during the protected period was that I was happy with what Tony Sideways said, and I do no think you substantailly rebutted it. Tbjablin 00:29, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The legal website uses the term "yosted" in a context that appears to have no relationship to David Yost, but refers instead to a Georgia legal precedent of 1986 (when the Yost of this wikipedia article was fifteen years old) known as Yost V. Torak. The Brewers reference gives a meaning of "yosted" that is related to a baseball player known as Edgar Frederick "Ned" Yost who played Major League from 1980-1985. He was with the Brewers from 1977 until 1983. The term "yosted" as used in the sense of David Yost doesn't seem to have much currency, but in my personal opinion (as a fellow Wikipedia editor) it may merit a mention and an explanation of the meaning in the article. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 12:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think we are getting closer to a compromise. Can you find any evidence of Yost being used in the ways described in the article? If so, let's link it. Also, are you sure that this is most common in high schools? From what I understand Power Rangers was most popular with pre-teens, so wouldn't it make more sense if Yost were quoted by middle schoolers? I must confess I have never seen Yost used the way you describe. Who have you seen use this word? Could it be that the word is used exclusively among Yost maniacs? If I saw someone use Yost as a noun or a verb it would suggest to me that that person is a Yostmaniac. Another puzzle is why Yostmaniacs use Yost's name in a derogatory fashion. Further, are we sure that this is not a geography specific use of the word? I live in the eastern United States. Maybe this usage is more common in another part of the world. If so, we should include that information in the article. Tbjablin 23:42, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad we're coming to an agreement. I'm fairly sure that it is most common in high schools currently, as the generation that were pre-teens (and thus in the target audience) at the time of the show's creation are now growing up, and in thier teenage years are reliving thier childhood through watching old power rangers episodes. Regarding the possibility of the word being regional dialect, I live in eastern Canada and it is a fairly common term, mainly among high school students. - A Yostmania Advocate
I think we should assume this word is specific to Eastern Canada until we can get some other documentation. I live in the Eastern United States and have never heard the word used this way. I think the view that this is a highly regional phenomena is consistent with the levels of use seen on the Internet. Certainly, we don't want to give the impression that Yost is entering the British or Australain lexicon. Tbjablin 00:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough. I'm in agreement with teh current state of the page, so it seems we've come to terms. I'm glad this worked out. - A Yostmania Advocate
Why is Yost in a derogatory way by Yostmaniacs? Tbjablin 13:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
To those planning on editting out the Yostmania section: There was already an arguement over it and a moderator was involved and an agreement was reached over the content. There is no need to further remove any of it.
The whole Yostmania section is a joke. I can't believe this article is protected due to the ramblings of a few trolls who claim to have a "spiritual interest" in such a low level celebrity. This section should be removed immediately, it's completely unencyclopedic and reads like some sort of practical joke or trolling. SchnappM 21:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
You're incorrect. Why do you think an agreement was reached under the supervision of a mod?
I have no idea. It boggles my mind. Maybe it's because 24.141.254.74 is a "n00b times infinity"? SchnappM 03:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC), a deeply offended sane person
Oh, and hey! I found out exactly what the right term is for the "Yostmania" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NFT But I don't really want to bother with this any further, so hopefully someone else will take care of it. SchnappM 10:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Why are you quoting "n00b times infinity" and attaching it to my IP? That was not my adittion to the talk page (if you'd check the history, it was made by a user of a different IP.) All of my posts have been made in a mature manner. I don't appreciate your calling me "n00b times infinity" without any reason. I assume you were doing that because you thought that it was my comment that originally contained that, but it was not.
And furthermore, I don't appreciate your signature implying that I am insane.
I'm curious. The article mentions that Yost married a childhood sweetheart named "Louis". Does this mean Yost is gay? Kidicarus222 23:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
My guess is yes. It said it was a commitment ceremony. Kind of curious why it got deleted on 5 April. Maybe it's not true or they broke up or something? RexTraverse 05:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
why was it deleted??i hope it was simply because the info was wrong, or mr yost wanted his private life to remain private. any other reason for the info to be deleted is just wrong- who ever decided to delete it should explain why he/she deleted it -
A lot of these quotes would probably go under the Billy Cranston page instead of the Yost page because it is the character that said them, not the actor. wonduhbread 07:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Yostmania section again, because this does not appear to be relevant to David's Yost's notability. I based this decision on the combination of the following principles:
1) WP:Verifiability: The burden of evidence lies with the editors who have made an edit or wish an edit to remain.
2) Wikipedia:Reliable sources-- Personal websites as secondary sources: Personal websites and blogs should not be used as secondary sources. That is, they should not be used as sources of information about a person or topic other than the owner of the website.
3) Reliable Sources -- Self-published sources in articles about themselves: Material from self-published sources, and other published sources of dubious reliability, may be used as sources of information about themselves in articles about themselves, so long as: It is relevant to the person's notability; It is not contentious; It is not unduly self-serving; It is not contradicted by reliable, third-party published sources; It does not involve claims about third parties, or about events not directly related to the subject; There is no reasonable doubt about who wrote it.
I realize there's been some discussion of this before, but the issue was not resolved from what I can observe. "Yostmania" gets just over a hundred hits on google, the was majority of which refer back to this article in one form or another. As for "numerous" David Yost fansites on the web, I found two. Unless someone can prove this is significant part of why David Yost is notable, the term shouldn't be here. As was stated above, "the high enthusiasm of a small minority is not encyclopedic". -- Lee Bailey (talk) 03:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Regarding point 3, why is this irrelevant to the notability of Yostmaniacs? What is a fact that is MORE notable regarding Yostmaniacs?
Regarding the fan sites, you could only find 2? I'll take about 30 seconds of time here and list what comes up from Yahoo on David Yost (in terms of fansites)
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7689/ www.geocities.com/peter84au/david.html http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3933/ www.angelfire.com/falcon/film3/DavidYost.html http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4931/yost.html http://www.pcshock.com/PRMania/index.html (not exclusively Yost, but has an undisputable focus on him)
I did not look beyond the first page of results. Perhaps a different set is coming up for you.
Furthermore, I disagree that "a high level of enthusiasm among a small group of people is not encyclopedic." If there was a small faction of Hitler enthusiasts being called "Hitlermaniacs", everyone would think it was encyclopedic.
Regarding "Regarding Point 3": The phenomenon of Yostmania is not based on the fact that David Yost has MANY fans so much as it is based on the fact that he maintains a devout following many years after his carreer as a mainstream celebrity ended. Yost has not been seen in a major role of a television show since 1996 (and even that role was diminishing). Amy Jo Johnson has a successful career in Music (and musicians tend to have more devout fans than television actors). Keanu Reaves has been the star of a relatively recent box-office hit TRILOGY of movies, as well as numerous other A-list films in the past few years. Yostmania is a phenomenon noting the level of enthusiasm of the fans, as well as the extreme length of time for which they are remaining devout fans. EDIT: Also, I do nmot see what the problem would be if there was a fan-created term that pertains to the actor, and that term was added to that actor's profile. I think it's notable that there are multiple fans using the person's name in words for everyday speech, it certainly says something about the person.
Everybody here seems to have forgotten that an agreement was reached with respect to the Yostmania section, which involved a Wikipedia moderator. This section should not be taken down and the precedent set by that moderator should not be ignored. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.199.18.113 ( talk • contribs) .
Is there a better one? To be honest, he looks like he's in pain in that one... Michael 01:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
It looks like a screenshot from a video. Was that funeral taped or something? --- Silent RAGE! 23:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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