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I'm trying to flesh out this article. What I've added so far amounts to a couple lists. Thinking of doing a short film by film examination of his works. What do you think? Nscheffey 00:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I've added it, as well as restored to the page to its original format. I'm going to request that this article be locked up for a while. Lastanzabianca 12:07 AM, 20 March 2007 (CST)
This dude is psycho.
Based on my understanding of the Tomlin incident, it is wrong and unfair to Russell to portray him as the lone aggressor in the incident. Surely it is understood that his conduct was unacceptable to most, but Tomlin did little to avert or calm the situation. I am not sure how to, but I would dispute the neutrality of the "Tomlin v. Russell" portion of the entry.
It seems that this article needs to be fleshed out more, with attention paid to things other than his confrontations with other celebrities. If nothing else, his filmography (or a "career" section) needs to come before the "Controversy," section. Remember, he is a person, then a filmmaker, then a person with a few controversial incidents under his belt. While it is important that these things be included, only focusing on these incidents could make one interpret this page as not NPOV. 70.116.139.13 05:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it true that this early (1994) Russell film was autobiographical? If so, it would explain his personality and his treatment of women. Whatever the case, moviegoers are free to express their support or opposition of Russell's directorial style and his movies at the box office (or video store). As a moviegoer I tend to judge a movie on its artistic merit, but, this time, my disdain for workplace bullies may make me boycott Russell's movies.
71.132.228.252 08:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)The Last Gentleman
It seems to me that an excessive amount of space in the article is dedicated to various controversies concerning Russell. I think the article would have a more encyclopedic finish if these bits were either trimmed substantially or given appropriate context through his life and career. -- Aioth 12:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
But, the article should not be about how Russell is an asshole. It should be about his career. I added info about his next film, Nailed, but a career summary needs to be added. Possibly, the entire controversy section should be removed and the individual controversies should be added in each appropriate film summary in career. DFS ( talk) 02:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Start searching for the confirmation, because production of his latest film just got put on hold because of a blow up between him and James Caan on the set of Nailed (film). RoyBatty42 ( talk) 17:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Done DFS ( talk) 02:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
The lead claims he is controversial but the article doesn't expand on this. I can see it's been edited a lot. The lead needs to reflect the current contents. ◦◦derekbd ◦◦my talk◦◦ 13:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
BLP does not mean nothing that might be seen as negative should be in an article. Check out the Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mel Gibson pages. This is not gossip - it has not been disputed by any reliable sources that I'm aware of. Not even Russell has denied these incidents. They happened in front of multiple witnesses and the second was recorded on video and has been widely seen. The New York Times did a major article on it. Not known for being a gossip rag. And we're not even including the Christopher Nolan headlock incident, discussed on this Talk page above, and which was probably the most outrageus thing Russell has done and also occurred in front of witnesses, and was reported on by RS. 207.233.45.14 ( talk) 22:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I support Moviebuff18's most recent NPOV edit to the Kings/Huckabee section. There is way too much detail and weight being given to minor incidents however 'juicy' they might be.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, here's what the article currently says about Russel's direction of the movie Three Kings:
Way too much content in my opinion and violates WP:UNDUE. This is a big movie, one of Russell's biggest success stories and we give 20% of the section to the movie and 80% of the section to coverage of an "almost fistfight" between him and Clooney? Something is wrong here. Any suggestions on how to reduce the content further? — Keithbob • Talk • 22:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
As it stands, in his filmography, Nailed is listed as a 2008 film. This is incorrect. Since films are named by the year of their initial release, I believe I will move it to the top of his filmography for now with a ???? as a date, as it is yet to be released (if it ever is). If anyone has an issue with this, please discuss here. NickCochrane ( talk) 01:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
This article certainly doesn't shy from detailing the controversies that Russell has been involved in, yet I don't see anything anywhere about what he did to his niece. I'm presuming the Chicago Tribune is a reliable source? I would add this info myself, but I'm not sure where in the article it would go (there's no "personal life" or "controversies" section, and giving it its own section seems weird). -- 81.106.54.32 ( talk) 22:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Removed edit by 24.188.205.33 -- charges were never laid against him (last sentence was therefore false) and the sentence also didn't comply with WP:NPOV. -- Jacquelyntwiki ( talk) 20:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
For fuck's sake, when typing his name into Google Search the very first suggestions that pop up are "nephew" and "niece" (the former of which is obviously wrong, and transphobic as hell, but w/e); there are pages and pages of results about this incident, and while obviously not all of them would be reliable, am I seriously supposed to believe that none of them would be? What exactly would qualify as a "reliable source" if fucking news articles on the incident don't? Or are you guys just that determined to stop people from knowing that he molested his niece and then blamed said niece for it? -- 81.102.61.3 ( talk) 20:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Given that he has worked with a lot of people multiple times, maybe a box can created with all of that info. 114.143.115.117 ( talk) 14:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Russell does a lot of work with raising awareness for mental health and autism. I wasn't sure if it deserved it's own section - but have put it into personal life for now. If that's incorrect please adjust and comment here to let me know! Morganglick ( talk) 18:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
This was brought up a few years ago by 114.143.115.117 as a table but wanted to float the idea again, as he has worked the same people even more times. Was thinking of doing a section like the one on Steven Spielberg. If this isn't appropriate please let me know! Morganglick ( talk) 20:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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In this section, there are several points where sentences trail off when it seems they are about to say where these events occurred (i.e. on the set of which movie). Clooney and Tomlin and Adams all fail to say what project was being worked on when the indicent occured. 2600:8800:5019:7300:40CB:BD36:8A9E:4182 ( talk) 00:15, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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I'm trying to flesh out this article. What I've added so far amounts to a couple lists. Thinking of doing a short film by film examination of his works. What do you think? Nscheffey 00:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I've added it, as well as restored to the page to its original format. I'm going to request that this article be locked up for a while. Lastanzabianca 12:07 AM, 20 March 2007 (CST)
This dude is psycho.
Based on my understanding of the Tomlin incident, it is wrong and unfair to Russell to portray him as the lone aggressor in the incident. Surely it is understood that his conduct was unacceptable to most, but Tomlin did little to avert or calm the situation. I am not sure how to, but I would dispute the neutrality of the "Tomlin v. Russell" portion of the entry.
It seems that this article needs to be fleshed out more, with attention paid to things other than his confrontations with other celebrities. If nothing else, his filmography (or a "career" section) needs to come before the "Controversy," section. Remember, he is a person, then a filmmaker, then a person with a few controversial incidents under his belt. While it is important that these things be included, only focusing on these incidents could make one interpret this page as not NPOV. 70.116.139.13 05:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it true that this early (1994) Russell film was autobiographical? If so, it would explain his personality and his treatment of women. Whatever the case, moviegoers are free to express their support or opposition of Russell's directorial style and his movies at the box office (or video store). As a moviegoer I tend to judge a movie on its artistic merit, but, this time, my disdain for workplace bullies may make me boycott Russell's movies.
71.132.228.252 08:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)The Last Gentleman
It seems to me that an excessive amount of space in the article is dedicated to various controversies concerning Russell. I think the article would have a more encyclopedic finish if these bits were either trimmed substantially or given appropriate context through his life and career. -- Aioth 12:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
But, the article should not be about how Russell is an asshole. It should be about his career. I added info about his next film, Nailed, but a career summary needs to be added. Possibly, the entire controversy section should be removed and the individual controversies should be added in each appropriate film summary in career. DFS ( talk) 02:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Start searching for the confirmation, because production of his latest film just got put on hold because of a blow up between him and James Caan on the set of Nailed (film). RoyBatty42 ( talk) 17:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Done DFS ( talk) 02:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
The lead claims he is controversial but the article doesn't expand on this. I can see it's been edited a lot. The lead needs to reflect the current contents. ◦◦derekbd ◦◦my talk◦◦ 13:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
BLP does not mean nothing that might be seen as negative should be in an article. Check out the Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mel Gibson pages. This is not gossip - it has not been disputed by any reliable sources that I'm aware of. Not even Russell has denied these incidents. They happened in front of multiple witnesses and the second was recorded on video and has been widely seen. The New York Times did a major article on it. Not known for being a gossip rag. And we're not even including the Christopher Nolan headlock incident, discussed on this Talk page above, and which was probably the most outrageus thing Russell has done and also occurred in front of witnesses, and was reported on by RS. 207.233.45.14 ( talk) 22:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I support Moviebuff18's most recent NPOV edit to the Kings/Huckabee section. There is way too much detail and weight being given to minor incidents however 'juicy' they might be.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, here's what the article currently says about Russel's direction of the movie Three Kings:
Way too much content in my opinion and violates WP:UNDUE. This is a big movie, one of Russell's biggest success stories and we give 20% of the section to the movie and 80% of the section to coverage of an "almost fistfight" between him and Clooney? Something is wrong here. Any suggestions on how to reduce the content further? — Keithbob • Talk • 22:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
As it stands, in his filmography, Nailed is listed as a 2008 film. This is incorrect. Since films are named by the year of their initial release, I believe I will move it to the top of his filmography for now with a ???? as a date, as it is yet to be released (if it ever is). If anyone has an issue with this, please discuss here. NickCochrane ( talk) 01:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
This article certainly doesn't shy from detailing the controversies that Russell has been involved in, yet I don't see anything anywhere about what he did to his niece. I'm presuming the Chicago Tribune is a reliable source? I would add this info myself, but I'm not sure where in the article it would go (there's no "personal life" or "controversies" section, and giving it its own section seems weird). -- 81.106.54.32 ( talk) 22:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Removed edit by 24.188.205.33 -- charges were never laid against him (last sentence was therefore false) and the sentence also didn't comply with WP:NPOV. -- Jacquelyntwiki ( talk) 20:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
For fuck's sake, when typing his name into Google Search the very first suggestions that pop up are "nephew" and "niece" (the former of which is obviously wrong, and transphobic as hell, but w/e); there are pages and pages of results about this incident, and while obviously not all of them would be reliable, am I seriously supposed to believe that none of them would be? What exactly would qualify as a "reliable source" if fucking news articles on the incident don't? Or are you guys just that determined to stop people from knowing that he molested his niece and then blamed said niece for it? -- 81.102.61.3 ( talk) 20:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Given that he has worked with a lot of people multiple times, maybe a box can created with all of that info. 114.143.115.117 ( talk) 14:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Russell does a lot of work with raising awareness for mental health and autism. I wasn't sure if it deserved it's own section - but have put it into personal life for now. If that's incorrect please adjust and comment here to let me know! Morganglick ( talk) 18:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
This was brought up a few years ago by 114.143.115.117 as a table but wanted to float the idea again, as he has worked the same people even more times. Was thinking of doing a section like the one on Steven Spielberg. If this isn't appropriate please let me know! Morganglick ( talk) 20:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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In this section, there are several points where sentences trail off when it seems they are about to say where these events occurred (i.e. on the set of which movie). Clooney and Tomlin and Adams all fail to say what project was being worked on when the indicent occured. 2600:8800:5019:7300:40CB:BD36:8A9E:4182 ( talk) 00:15, 7 July 2022 (UTC)