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This segment that I revert here is wp:trivial. Giving such an importance to Lennox is wp:undue weight, we can't begin citing the artists that have praised Bowie, the list is endless and there would be far bigger names to mention before Annie Lennox's. I took a look at other articles, Beatles, Velvet etc and there isn't any name mentioned in the legacy as their influence is too big. wp:Namedropping is something to be avoid for such influential artists. Woovee ( talk) 23:14, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
At the 2016 Brit Awards on 24 February, Bowie was given a posthumous Brits Icon award for his "lasting impact on British culture." The award was received on behalf of Bowie and his family by his close friend Gary Oldman.<ref name="Brits tribute">{{cite news|title=Read Annie Lennox And Gary Oldman's David Bowie Tribute Speeches At The Brit Awards 2016|url=http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/read-annie-lennox-and-gary-oldmans-david-bowie-tribute-speeches-at-the-brit-awards-2016|newspaper=NME|date=4 October 2016}}</ref><!-- Cites previous 2 sentences. -->
Changes are being made to the Genre section, and I'm not sure that they are appropriate. I reverted one and left a message on the talk page of 173.30.49.173 asking them to put an edit summary on any changes, but they are still making them without. Could somebody please advise a) if these changes are appropriate or b) what my next steps should be? Many thanks MarpoHarks ( talk) 17:39, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your speedy response @Mlpearc. I don't think I should keep reverting though, should I? If not, what should I do now? Sorry to be such a newb but I've never come across this before. MarpoHarks ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Suggest adding Nile Rodgers. 127W111 ( talk) 21:17, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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I’ve just watched the video for Lazarus: and couldn’t help but notice that — in one scene — Bowie uses his left hand to mine writing.
I’m a southpaw, myself: and always like spotting celebrity left-handers.
I have to ask: was Bowie left-handed?
It’s a minor point, I know, but I’d LOVE to know … !
Cuddy2977 ( talk) 09:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I'm unclear why my entire edit has been wiped consistently. If a source is needed, I've sent several reliable ones. Also, I believe I have improved the original edit (for example, with additional information about the BBC television production based on Hanif Kureishi's novel). The additions to the section are valid and an improvement, so what source is required? I've sent various links. A quick web search will support the edit.
Also, after this continual reversion of editing began, I signed up and created an account, so I will use that as an ID consistently from now on.
Thanks,
-- Sreedb ( talk) 00:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
The editor who is repeatedly undoing my work said I needed to come to this talk page to discuss the issue. I understand sourcing. Should I incorporate the source into the text? Footnote it? A major portion of my edit really doesn't require a source or citation; I'm assuming it's the single sentence that notes that "The Buddha of Suburbia" was marketed as a soundtrack album but actually is a studio album with only one original track from the television score (the title track). This is absolutely true, and I've sent tons of links (not just blog links) to support this, and my edit keeps getting reverted as a whole. I've substantially edited one other Wiki entry in the past year and that was a breeze! Not sure what's happening here. Please help!
Thanks,
-- Sreedb ( talk) 00:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Well, I've added my source, which I believe is reliable. Thank you for your patience.
Happy New Year!
-- Sreedb ( talk) 01:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
I am wondering why my edit of "The Buddha of Suburbia" continues to be reverted. My first source was a link to the artist's liner notes on the album, my second is a press release issued upon the re-release of the album in 2007, from David Bowie's official website. There is also a Wiki entry for the album which corroborates my edit. Not sure why this relatively minor edit is turning into a weird back and forth. The album is very different from the rather abbreviated soundtrack David Bowie created for the series (except for the original track). Has anyone seen the BBC series and listened to the album? They're not the same. Maybe an editor needs to listen to the music?
Also, it's unclear to me why my complete edit is reverted. As I've written before, I've certainly clarified the info on the tv series, which is helpful information, and this has also been wiped repeatedly.
-- Sreedb ( talk) 19:51, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I've now found a different source, using a PopMatters review of the re-release in 2007. PopMatters is not a blog, as I'm sure the editors realize, but an online cultural mag which has been in operation since 1999. I hope to put this edit to rest now.
-- Sreedb ( talk) 20:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I have again been reverted arbitrarily, which I've undone (again). I requested that the editor come to the Talk page, although there has been no response. This time the editor states that PopMatters isn't a valid source. PopMatters is reliable and has its own Wiki entry: /info/en/?search=PopMatters The album in question also has a Wiki entry which supports my edit: /info/en/?search=The_Buddha_of_Suburbia_(soundtrack) I would appreciate clarification on the editing going on -- do these editors know the rather obscure record in question? I sincerely doubt it. -- Sreedb ( talk) 12:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Again, no problem. While I'm here, I ought to mention the need for an edit summary for every edit you make: otherwise you might contract editsummarisis! ;o) I know you have supplied an edit summary quite often, but doing it every time helps casual observers take you more seriously, besides making it easier for anyone watching to assess what's going on. The less people are distracted from what they want to be doing, the happier they'll be. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 17:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
See Template talk:David Bowie singles to discuss whether or not the navigation box for Bowie's singles is too large. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
The associated acts section of the infobox says not to make additions without discussing them here. Any reason not to add Bing Crosby? He and Bowie recorded a well-known duet. DragonflyDC ( talk) 01:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm pushing to get the first official good topic for Bowie to be the Never Let Me Down-era releases. "Day-In Day-Out" is now the 3rd Good article behind Never Let Me Down and the Glass Spider Tour. Next up, hopefully, will be " Time Will Crawl", " Never Let Me Down" and Glass Spider. I'm not sure if we'll have to push " Bang Bang" or " Girls" to GA or not (as they're not officially listed as Bowie articles). Regardless, please jump in if you'd like to help get these articles polished. Happy 70th birthday Bowie! We miss you! 87Fan ( talk) 19:09, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I change the sales to 100 million records with the previous source. User @ ATS: removed the reference arguing that the source with 140 million records is newer with 9 days of difference. I know that Bowie passed away one week later when the reference with 100 million record was published. Is natural that the sales of deceased artist increase, but based on his certified units, 140 million records see too high. However, the reference with 100 million record is from the same year. He doesn't broke posthumous important record after he died. We know cases that sales are inflated by fans, media and the record companies, so we need to follow a good criteria based on the certified units. With Bowie, for example, United States (the biggest music mark worldwide) is only 12 million record. The same from his native country. They are very low figures for someone that is claim to sell up to 140 million record~s. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 18:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I already notified in music projects to reach a consensus about the different figures, both with "reliable sources" and different "truths". Regards, Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 19:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
He had a few record certifications (29 million in total), this 140 million seems exagerated to commercial purposes. People like Barbra Straisand has 97 million copies in certified sales and the claim for her record sales 150 million copies worldwide. It seems more accurate to put Bowie with 100 million copies than 140 million.-- 88marcus ( talk) 20:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
I agree with you Chrishonduras 140 million is too high figure for David Bowie. This figure is unreliable. He has sold more than 100 million records. 140 million records seems like impossible. — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:20, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
And you don't believe 100 million figure too, don't you? — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Meantime, I have rewritten the sentence to give the attribution and date. — ATS 🖖 talk 04:20, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
This is one of the reason why the consensus needs to be. So, we're not breaking the Wikipedia's rules and with the record sales, sometimes is necessary this process and analyze each case for separate. We don't have to cherry pick statements, we have to show all that's in front of us and that actually comes from real sources. I think that the Harout idea initially to present both sales is the most accurate solution. We don’t have to act as judges of the information, we have to present both realities and let the readers decide what to think and what to do with both facts. Is our obligation as contributors and writers of Wikipedia to present information with all its sides and shades, and to be truthful. I support the Harout change. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 07:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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David Bowie is listed in Category:LGBT singers and List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people, yet he has stated that his declaration of bisexuality was a mistake and that this was more of a product of 1970s culture than his actual feelings. Does this have any effect on any such listings? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:18, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Heya. As a fan of David Bowie and frequent reader of Wikipedia, I find it annoying that it is not easy to find which members were with him during what tours/times in his career, making me have to look it up on the various tour pages. I think it would be wise to, if not on this page, then on a different one, include a list and timeline of "David Bowie touring personnel." Here's a rough draft of the timeline that I made; let me know what you think! 184.21.45.75 ( talk) 09:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
The actual citation in the article only says that Bowie's mother's *father* had Irish ancestry: '[Her father] Jimmy Burns's parents were poor Irish immigrants who had settled in Manchester" p.16 "[Jimmy] had known [her mother] in Manchester. Her name was Margaret Heaton"' Whilst the citation doesn't explicitly say her mother was of English extraction, the name Heaton is certainly English. But whatever the mum's extraction, in the name of accuracy can I suggest the article is changed to make it clear that only Bowie's mother's father was of Irish extraction as at present it is misleading as it suggests Bowie's mother was fully of Irish heritage. Personally I think the fact that 2 of Bowie's great-grandparents were from Ireland is not even worth mentioning at all but if it's going to be in this article I think greater clarity is called for... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.6.96.13 ( talk) 21:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Actually, the name Burns is SCOTTISH and the logical conclusion to this fact is that his so-called Irish ancestors were immigrants from Scotland. It is no coincidence that Bowie gave his son the Scottish name Duncan and he sent him to the Scottish school Gordonstoun. He also took a keen interest in Scottish music and in the country in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.83.154 ( talk) 18:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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I've added info to the pages for Blackstar
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The Final Take: Bowie in the Studio. I'm not sure whether the same info should be added to this page too: either at the bottom of the section
Legacy and influence or in a new section titled something like "Portrayal in media". What do other editors think?
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It says he died of liver cancer. Did he/they have any idea what caused the liver cancer?
Why no mention of BowieBanc, his unsuccessful attempt to create an online bank? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.203.179.238 ( talk) 20:51, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
It took a while to get all the articles up to Good Article status, but it happened, and now we officially have our first Featured Topic on Bowie: The series of articles relating to Never Let Me Down, it's singles, the Glass Spider Tour, and its live video release. Check it out! And as always, feel free to improve any and all of them if you have good sources! 87Fan ( talk) 00:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Why is there no mention (even in passing) of Bowie being accused publicly by multiple people of having committed statutory rape? There are many, many discussions about this throughout the internet, with (from what I can tell) the main sources here, here, here, and here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.147.63.223 ( talk) 02:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Is it remotely relevant that Bowie's mother's paternal grandparents were Irish immigrants??? This smacks of some Irish nationalist determined to shoehorn in some reference to Irishness that is just not relevant to anything. How has this become seemingly a permanent part of this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.93.4.237 ( talk) 21:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
There are many references and quotes to a work by "Sandford (1997)" that include page citations, but no title of a work. Earlier in the body text, he's mentioned as being "Christopher Sanford", which is all well and good, but gives no note as to which work by which Christopher Sandford is being referenced. Later in the citations, there's one for Loving the Alien, but it's listed as having come out in 2009 and not 1997. Are ALL instances referring to Loving the Alien (both updated and unupdated versions)? And if so, can someone please standardise the citations have a title of work being cited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KissMe666 ( talk • contribs) 00:36, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
/boʊi/ "boh-ee" or /baʊi/ "bow-ee"? I use the first, but I've heard the latter used occasionally. Would it be good to list /baʊi/ as another pronunciation, even if different from how the man himself said it? EditWorker ( talk) 10:41, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
I feel that this article may focus too much on his life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.143.140.223 ( talk) 17:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
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I posted this on the Never Let Me Down talk page too, but asking here for visibility. Where do we put information about NLMD '18? It's a notable release in some aspects (do any search for news about it, and there's plenty), it's the first (and only) Bowie record to be re-engineered this way, but it's apparently not going to be released outside of the Loving The Alien box set. Do we put information about NLMD '18 in its own article? in the NLMD article? In the Loving The Alien box set page? Looking for consensus here. Thanks. 87Fan ( talk) 18:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Should we list /baʊi/ as another pronunciation of his name, possibly as a variant? I personally pronounce it /boʊi/, but I've heard plenty of people pronounce it /baʊi/. EditWorker ( talk) 11:50, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Seeing as David Bowie's sexuality has its own section, I believe his ephebophilia, alleged by Lori Maddox who claims to have lost her virginity to him at age fourteen, is relevant information. As long as the article lists them as allegations (rather than decided fact), I think they have a spot in this article. Since Wikipedia already hosts articles such as Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations, Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations, Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations, Woody Allen sexual assault allegation, and others, there is no basis to suggest that allegations do not belong on Wikipedia. Especially given that they are sourced directly from an interview of Lori Maddox, not mentioning this (pretty relevant) aspect of Bowie's sexuality is simply leaving relevant information out of the article. Deliberately suppressing her firsthand statements would likely only come across as a biased attempt at protecting Bowie's legacy, which would not fit with Wikipedia's policy of neutrality. I believe the recently-undone edit succinctly addresses the issue in a properly neutral and correct manner. Et0048 ( talk) 00:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
23 July 2018: "David Bowie's first known studio recording is set to go up for auction, after it was reportedly discovered in an old bread basket.": The Independent, The Guardian, BBC. Martinevans123 ( talk) 13:34, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
David Bowie and Marc Bolan (T.Rex) were friends, and I'm aware of at least one time when they performed together. It was on Marc's [British] TV show, "Marc" [1] (They were having quite a great time, and at the end Marc famously fell off the stage, much to David's amusement).
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It's been quite a long time since the last discussion about instruments in the infobox... but really I don't think there needs to be another discussion. He played guitar and saxophone very often, and keyboards on occasion, so those two or three should be added. Also "musician" to the occupations (singer, songwriter (or singer-songwriter), musician and actor). It is obviously false to say he wasn't a musician since, well, he was. If nobody objects with good reasons (no, you don't decide what one "thinks of" when they think of David Bowie), I'll add this stuff at some point soon. PerhapsXarb ( talk) 10:45, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Well, nobody seems to mind, so I'll do it PerhapsXarb ( talk) 04:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
OK if nobody cares I'll actually do it. User:MarnetteD? You seem to be enforcing this so read what I wrote above. I don't want a big debate though since that makes editing on Wikipedia get tiring very fast. PerhapsXarb ( talk) 07:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Musician is still not added to his occupations. Why? He played instruments. He was a musician. This is stupid. Dyaluk08 ( talk) 09:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
How on earth is it relevant or meaningful that 2 out of 8 of his great-grandparents were Irish? How on earth has this nonsense survived so long in this article? Can an editor remove this silliness please? If this must survive in this article can someone give some information about the other 6 great grandparents. Maybe we could even go back another generation or two? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.4.59 ( talk) 06:40, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
His acting career can be compiled into one section. To have it put into separate decades is wholly unnecessary, especially when the article is already loaded with subsections. Nampa DC ( talk) 16:13, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
I divided it up into decades because, as he had dozens of roles over a 40+ year career, it makes the section easier to read and understand as the section grows more detailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to change the main photo of the article? Since he's gone (sadly) we can use an image from his prime instead of the most recent image. I propose we change the main image to this ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:David_Bowie_1975.jpg) as it's a headshot from his prime where he's looking forward. If I'm wrong in any way please correct me or tell me so. Thank you! CarterLennon ( talk) 22:07, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 19:08, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Definitely a good idea but I don't think that's a better image to use than the current one - it's so tied to the Young Americans period only and isn't as recognisable and neutral to Bowie's entire career as say an image from 1978, or 2002 as it is at the moment. Humbledaisy ( talk) 18:59, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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Please add something mentioning the spider named after David Bowie. Adonalsium82 ( talk) 18:24, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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18:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)On the page currently, Bowie's years active are "1962–2009 2013-2016", the rationale being Bowie's last film role was in 2009, and 2013 was when he released a new album, The Next Day. However, The Next Day was in the pipeline for two years - recording began in 2011 - so making his years active only resume in 2013 seems to be incorrect. I know Bowie had a break from the public eye for around a decade leading up to its release, but wouldn't it be better to list years active as "1962 - 2016"? Humbledaisy 27 December 2019
The article's subject is dead. 72.76.163.6 ( talk) 20:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
SouthofHeaven1981, keep in mind that this is a WP:FA (featured article) and that extra care should be taken when editing it. See WP:CAREFUL and Wikipedia:Ownership of content#Featured articles. I'm not disputing any of your most recent changes. I'm simply alerting you to the fact that, like WP:CAREFUL states, "In many cases, the text as you find it has come into being after long and arduous negotiations between Wikipedians of diverse backgrounds and points of view." Some of your changes may need discussion first. Be open to bringing matters to the talk page before making significant changes. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 23:51, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
I’ve restored the article to its stable (and featured article) layout dated 9 January 2020 at 21:50. The reason is his life directly impacted on his music. They are intrinsically linked. It’s not something you can separate and add in later in it’s own category. His alienation with LA via his drug use caused his subsequent move to Berlin. The music he produced was tied to the experiences of whatever place he was based in at the time. His music changed because he changed wherever he happened to be. PD Rivers ( talk) 21:28, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Okay, then my question is, why even have other sections? Why not just combine it all into one giant chronological narrative combining music, acting & other work, and divide it up by time period? If BowieNet & Bowie Bonds somehow contributed to Outside & Earthling, and a year painting in Switzerland contributed to the Berlin Trilogy, then surely Labyrinth contributed to his late 80s pop music, & The Elephant Man contributed to Scary Monsters. If we either divide it up into different types of work, or combine it into one narrative, I feel like either would be a smoother read than expecting people to jump around & try to find what they're looking for. SouthofHeaven1981 —Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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Bowie during the Ziggy Stardust Tour, 1972–1973 Dressed in a striking costume, his hair dyed reddish-brown, Bowie launched his Ziggy Stardust stage show with the Spiders from Mars—Ronson, Bolder, and Woodmansey—at the Toby Jug pub in Tolworth in Kingston upon Thames on 10 February 1972."
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Why no films at all? By all means suggest criteria for selection of a list, or a source that makes such a selection. But to just ditch the whole list like this because "open to much argument about what is included; "selected" by who? UNSOURCED" looks like a mindless tantrum. 86.186.37.225 ( talk) 19:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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Please add Stephen Ray Vaughan to the Associated Acts section. SVR's guitar plaing on Let's Dance is iconic and a significant contribution to the success of that album and to a shift in Bowie's style at that point in his career.
Thanks for your consideration. DavidDeMello ( talk) 15:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
A sock is trying to add a discography section to this article, and have included a link to a separate article that specifically deals with listing Bowie's discography. Ok, I thought this might've been bloody obvious, but the Bowie biography already has the link to the separate Bowie discography article, which is appropriately placed at the top of the "Music career" section, so it doesn't need it repeated below. Also, the list which is trying to be added above is also sourceless and this is a featured article, hence why I have deleted it. Source it or lose it. Cassianto Talk 17:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
FYI I’m not a sock account, just a new account. I wasn’t aware this was an issue on the page prior to editing, I did have a glance at the last 2 archived talk pages of the article but didn’t see any consensus about the discography section other than people trying to add soundtracks. I won’t attempt re-add the discography section. I didn’t realise it would be an issue. NNDDRRWW ( talk) 01:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I’ve had previous accounts but I’m not using this as a sock account, my previous account hasn’t even edited this page. And for reference my old account was User:OBLIVIUS. NNDDRRWW ( talk) 02:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
PD Rivers reverted my previous edits, but I hold that Bowie Bonds & BowieNet have absolutely nothing to do with his music output in the mid 90s and should not be categorized under his "Music career." I suggest that we add an "Other works" subcategory that includes that, along with his painting/art collecting career (which is already categorized separately). Does anyone have any objections to me making that edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 14:55, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Why is this utter nonsense being included in a featured article? Cassianto Talk 15:48, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Because David Bowie was a multifaceted person who was involved in many different things, and Wikipedia is where people go to read about them? Refrain from talking to either of us like that, as you are (I assume) not a child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 16:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
The fun of his career is in the little details & side tours. Go ahead & apply for whatever you want if it makes you feel like a big strong boi. Sincerely, signed, gatekeepers suck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 19:23, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
I suppose the following is incorrect, but I encountered it in several places and I figure that having it here will make it easier to negate. Several pages, such as [6] claim that before starting to use the name David Bowie, he used the stage name Tom Jones for a while, but had to rename because of Tom Jones (singer). The biography here does not seem to leave room for such an extra rename. Tzafrir ( talk) 16:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The 1987 rape allegation that was dismissed due to lack of evidence, should be included in his personal life, there are reliable sources readily available from that time to cite. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidd ( talk • contribs) 14:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Why isn't there a discography section that includes all his studio albums? Most other artists I see on WP have that so why not Bowie? – zmbro ( talk) 16:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Per Template:Infobox musical artist, the "Associated acts" field in the inbox is not for one-off collaborations. This means that Queen, for example, should not be in there. It's a very long list and I suspect many of other acts should be removed too. Can someone more familiar with Bowie check this? Popcornfud ( talk) 23:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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Berthold Brecht in the text there is Bertold Brecht 2A02:8071:31AA:2600:610E:3B7A:39F5:38CA ( talk) 14:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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David Bowie’s signature should be added to the page 68.110.234.72 ( talk) 21:55, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Should we consider him a koto player? 79.27.127.77 ( talk) 09:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of The Times ones, you shouldn't have to pay to confirm.
If there isn't all good. Just seems a bit silly.
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-- TheMightyAllBlacks ( talk) 06:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
At the very least, the link to the discography page should be under its own 'Discography' section, as seems to be the convention. I had to do a search to find it in its current position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BariNeon ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
David Bowie went out of the public eye in 2006, he came back in 2013 and finished his last album just before his death
Years active should state: 1967-1987 - he took a break after the glass spider tour 1990-2006 and 2013-2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgoh7622 ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
This has been discussed previously. The 'gaps' referred to here don't take into account various acting roles and the preparation for new music that he was undertaking during those years. -SouthofHeaven1981
If no one objects, I'm going to move the information about the David Bowie Is museum exhibit out of the "Music career" section and into the "Legacy" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
If nobody objects, I'd like to take a crack at reorganizing a couple paragraphs in the section "1968–1971: Space Oddity to Hunky Dory." Huge chunks of the narrative are about Bowie's early relationships with several women, with minimal information about his musical output at the time (this section is listed under "Music career") and I feel like a lot of that information would be better suited to the "Personal life" subsection. The parts that are about him working on music at the time (his collaborations with Hermione Farthingale, for instance) would still be in this section, but the rest of the info should be moved in my opinion. -SouthofHeaven1981 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 18:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
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05:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)Craw Allen, regarding this and this? Why would readers want to go to the List of cultural icons of England article instead of the Cultural icon article? The list article doesn't tell them anything about what an icon is. And whatever number Bowie is on whatever list can be mentioned in the Davie Bowie article. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 04:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
No need to ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 04:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
How do we feel about the last 2 paragraphs of the 'Thin White Duke' subsection of the 'Music career' section? That entire section is about Bowie's flirtation with fascism and fascist imagery, virtually no references to the music he was touring behind at the time. There is also some redundant info on this in the 'Politics' section, I think that it could all be combined into one entry under Politics. SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs 15:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
His song was No Control, which was an unreleased song from Outside that was tweaked to work with the musical. I just think its a neat fact that should be covered briefly as it wouldn't add too much to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chunkert ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
'Girlfriend' Lindsay Kempe? Vandalism, I presume? 195.213.55.31 ( talk) 19:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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ALRIGHT it refers to lindsay kemp as david bowie's girlfriend but lindsay kemp is a guy i think? 82.29.78.181 ( talk) 00:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
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The "associated acts" bit should probably be reviewed, Lennon and Jagger should probably be added (esp. considering Bowie is listed as an "associated act" on the latter's page) InlineCitations ( talk) 08:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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21:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)There's nothing much about Savage Records in this write up (just before Black Tie White Noise when he signed a $3.4 million deal with the record label). I thought it would be more prominent in the article with some people at the time pointing to the troubles at Savage to why the album wasn't a big hit in the USA....
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"David Mimran's Savage Records (known for British band Soho and their Smiths-sampling indie-dance hit "Hippychick" in 1991) [1] [2] was set up by the Swiss teenager in 1986 and funded by his multi-millionaire father. Due to the almost endless financing of his father and the fact their A&R manager (a Swiss record shop owner called Bernard Fanin) had industry experience, the label managed to make it into the 1990s with a number of dance and hip-hop hits by artists such as Silver Bullet and A Homeboy, Hippy and A Funky Dread (issued on Savage's Tam Tam dance label). [3] [4] Around the time Soho had their top ten UK hit, [5] [6] [7] Mimran decided that Savage would not just be a British indie, but would be an American major instead. Savage Records went on a spending spree in America, which resulted in them opening plush offices on Broadway, hiring Michael Jackson's manager Frank DiLeo and signing David Bowie to a massive $3.4 million record deal, all which ended when Mimran's father, Jean Claude, cut finances." [8] [9] [10] [11] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.173.247 ( talk) 18:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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First mention of full name of biographer David Buckley is not at first use in article. 71.214.93.142 ( talk) 01:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
I added a paragraph on Bowie's sexuality, namely his alleged relationship with an underage girl in the 1970's. It has been widely publicised and deserves to be mentioned in this article, in my opinion, also bearing in mind the relevance this subject has to the current "Me-too" movement. Jeroen1961 ( talk) 02:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Courtesy links to previous discussion of this issue: Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_7#Ephebophilia, Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_6#Lori_Mattix, Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_2#Pedophile?, Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_5#Lori_Maddox Schazjmd (talk) 22:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Given that this page is no longer a BLP I dont think we can keep the information completely off the page, although there is of course room for discussions of scope, prominence, etc. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 23:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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This segment that I revert here is wp:trivial. Giving such an importance to Lennox is wp:undue weight, we can't begin citing the artists that have praised Bowie, the list is endless and there would be far bigger names to mention before Annie Lennox's. I took a look at other articles, Beatles, Velvet etc and there isn't any name mentioned in the legacy as their influence is too big. wp:Namedropping is something to be avoid for such influential artists. Woovee ( talk) 23:14, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
At the 2016 Brit Awards on 24 February, Bowie was given a posthumous Brits Icon award for his "lasting impact on British culture." The award was received on behalf of Bowie and his family by his close friend Gary Oldman.<ref name="Brits tribute">{{cite news|title=Read Annie Lennox And Gary Oldman's David Bowie Tribute Speeches At The Brit Awards 2016|url=http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/read-annie-lennox-and-gary-oldmans-david-bowie-tribute-speeches-at-the-brit-awards-2016|newspaper=NME|date=4 October 2016}}</ref><!-- Cites previous 2 sentences. -->
Changes are being made to the Genre section, and I'm not sure that they are appropriate. I reverted one and left a message on the talk page of 173.30.49.173 asking them to put an edit summary on any changes, but they are still making them without. Could somebody please advise a) if these changes are appropriate or b) what my next steps should be? Many thanks MarpoHarks ( talk) 17:39, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your speedy response @Mlpearc. I don't think I should keep reverting though, should I? If not, what should I do now? Sorry to be such a newb but I've never come across this before. MarpoHarks ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Suggest adding Nile Rodgers. 127W111 ( talk) 21:17, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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I’ve just watched the video for Lazarus: and couldn’t help but notice that — in one scene — Bowie uses his left hand to mine writing.
I’m a southpaw, myself: and always like spotting celebrity left-handers.
I have to ask: was Bowie left-handed?
It’s a minor point, I know, but I’d LOVE to know … !
Cuddy2977 ( talk) 09:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I'm unclear why my entire edit has been wiped consistently. If a source is needed, I've sent several reliable ones. Also, I believe I have improved the original edit (for example, with additional information about the BBC television production based on Hanif Kureishi's novel). The additions to the section are valid and an improvement, so what source is required? I've sent various links. A quick web search will support the edit.
Also, after this continual reversion of editing began, I signed up and created an account, so I will use that as an ID consistently from now on.
Thanks,
-- Sreedb ( talk) 00:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
The editor who is repeatedly undoing my work said I needed to come to this talk page to discuss the issue. I understand sourcing. Should I incorporate the source into the text? Footnote it? A major portion of my edit really doesn't require a source or citation; I'm assuming it's the single sentence that notes that "The Buddha of Suburbia" was marketed as a soundtrack album but actually is a studio album with only one original track from the television score (the title track). This is absolutely true, and I've sent tons of links (not just blog links) to support this, and my edit keeps getting reverted as a whole. I've substantially edited one other Wiki entry in the past year and that was a breeze! Not sure what's happening here. Please help!
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-- Sreedb ( talk) 00:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Well, I've added my source, which I believe is reliable. Thank you for your patience.
Happy New Year!
-- Sreedb ( talk) 01:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
I am wondering why my edit of "The Buddha of Suburbia" continues to be reverted. My first source was a link to the artist's liner notes on the album, my second is a press release issued upon the re-release of the album in 2007, from David Bowie's official website. There is also a Wiki entry for the album which corroborates my edit. Not sure why this relatively minor edit is turning into a weird back and forth. The album is very different from the rather abbreviated soundtrack David Bowie created for the series (except for the original track). Has anyone seen the BBC series and listened to the album? They're not the same. Maybe an editor needs to listen to the music?
Also, it's unclear to me why my complete edit is reverted. As I've written before, I've certainly clarified the info on the tv series, which is helpful information, and this has also been wiped repeatedly.
-- Sreedb ( talk) 19:51, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I've now found a different source, using a PopMatters review of the re-release in 2007. PopMatters is not a blog, as I'm sure the editors realize, but an online cultural mag which has been in operation since 1999. I hope to put this edit to rest now.
-- Sreedb ( talk) 20:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I have again been reverted arbitrarily, which I've undone (again). I requested that the editor come to the Talk page, although there has been no response. This time the editor states that PopMatters isn't a valid source. PopMatters is reliable and has its own Wiki entry: /info/en/?search=PopMatters The album in question also has a Wiki entry which supports my edit: /info/en/?search=The_Buddha_of_Suburbia_(soundtrack) I would appreciate clarification on the editing going on -- do these editors know the rather obscure record in question? I sincerely doubt it. -- Sreedb ( talk) 12:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Again, no problem. While I'm here, I ought to mention the need for an edit summary for every edit you make: otherwise you might contract editsummarisis! ;o) I know you have supplied an edit summary quite often, but doing it every time helps casual observers take you more seriously, besides making it easier for anyone watching to assess what's going on. The less people are distracted from what they want to be doing, the happier they'll be. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 17:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
See Template talk:David Bowie singles to discuss whether or not the navigation box for Bowie's singles is too large. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 00:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
The associated acts section of the infobox says not to make additions without discussing them here. Any reason not to add Bing Crosby? He and Bowie recorded a well-known duet. DragonflyDC ( talk) 01:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm pushing to get the first official good topic for Bowie to be the Never Let Me Down-era releases. "Day-In Day-Out" is now the 3rd Good article behind Never Let Me Down and the Glass Spider Tour. Next up, hopefully, will be " Time Will Crawl", " Never Let Me Down" and Glass Spider. I'm not sure if we'll have to push " Bang Bang" or " Girls" to GA or not (as they're not officially listed as Bowie articles). Regardless, please jump in if you'd like to help get these articles polished. Happy 70th birthday Bowie! We miss you! 87Fan ( talk) 19:09, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I change the sales to 100 million records with the previous source. User @ ATS: removed the reference arguing that the source with 140 million records is newer with 9 days of difference. I know that Bowie passed away one week later when the reference with 100 million record was published. Is natural that the sales of deceased artist increase, but based on his certified units, 140 million records see too high. However, the reference with 100 million record is from the same year. He doesn't broke posthumous important record after he died. We know cases that sales are inflated by fans, media and the record companies, so we need to follow a good criteria based on the certified units. With Bowie, for example, United States (the biggest music mark worldwide) is only 12 million record. The same from his native country. They are very low figures for someone that is claim to sell up to 140 million record~s. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 18:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I already notified in music projects to reach a consensus about the different figures, both with "reliable sources" and different "truths". Regards, Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 19:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
He had a few record certifications (29 million in total), this 140 million seems exagerated to commercial purposes. People like Barbra Straisand has 97 million copies in certified sales and the claim for her record sales 150 million copies worldwide. It seems more accurate to put Bowie with 100 million copies than 140 million.-- 88marcus ( talk) 20:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
I agree with you Chrishonduras 140 million is too high figure for David Bowie. This figure is unreliable. He has sold more than 100 million records. 140 million records seems like impossible. — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:20, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
And you don't believe 100 million figure too, don't you? — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Meantime, I have rewritten the sentence to give the attribution and date. — ATS 🖖 talk 04:20, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
This is one of the reason why the consensus needs to be. So, we're not breaking the Wikipedia's rules and with the record sales, sometimes is necessary this process and analyze each case for separate. We don't have to cherry pick statements, we have to show all that's in front of us and that actually comes from real sources. I think that the Harout idea initially to present both sales is the most accurate solution. We don’t have to act as judges of the information, we have to present both realities and let the readers decide what to think and what to do with both facts. Is our obligation as contributors and writers of Wikipedia to present information with all its sides and shades, and to be truthful. I support the Harout change. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 07:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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David Bowie is listed in Category:LGBT singers and List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people, yet he has stated that his declaration of bisexuality was a mistake and that this was more of a product of 1970s culture than his actual feelings. Does this have any effect on any such listings? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:18, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Heya. As a fan of David Bowie and frequent reader of Wikipedia, I find it annoying that it is not easy to find which members were with him during what tours/times in his career, making me have to look it up on the various tour pages. I think it would be wise to, if not on this page, then on a different one, include a list and timeline of "David Bowie touring personnel." Here's a rough draft of the timeline that I made; let me know what you think! 184.21.45.75 ( talk) 09:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
The actual citation in the article only says that Bowie's mother's *father* had Irish ancestry: '[Her father] Jimmy Burns's parents were poor Irish immigrants who had settled in Manchester" p.16 "[Jimmy] had known [her mother] in Manchester. Her name was Margaret Heaton"' Whilst the citation doesn't explicitly say her mother was of English extraction, the name Heaton is certainly English. But whatever the mum's extraction, in the name of accuracy can I suggest the article is changed to make it clear that only Bowie's mother's father was of Irish extraction as at present it is misleading as it suggests Bowie's mother was fully of Irish heritage. Personally I think the fact that 2 of Bowie's great-grandparents were from Ireland is not even worth mentioning at all but if it's going to be in this article I think greater clarity is called for... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.6.96.13 ( talk) 21:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Actually, the name Burns is SCOTTISH and the logical conclusion to this fact is that his so-called Irish ancestors were immigrants from Scotland. It is no coincidence that Bowie gave his son the Scottish name Duncan and he sent him to the Scottish school Gordonstoun. He also took a keen interest in Scottish music and in the country in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.83.154 ( talk) 18:53, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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I've added info to the pages for Blackstar
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Legacy and influence or in a new section titled something like "Portrayal in media". What do other editors think?
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It says he died of liver cancer. Did he/they have any idea what caused the liver cancer?
Why no mention of BowieBanc, his unsuccessful attempt to create an online bank? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.203.179.238 ( talk) 20:51, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
It took a while to get all the articles up to Good Article status, but it happened, and now we officially have our first Featured Topic on Bowie: The series of articles relating to Never Let Me Down, it's singles, the Glass Spider Tour, and its live video release. Check it out! And as always, feel free to improve any and all of them if you have good sources! 87Fan ( talk) 00:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Why is there no mention (even in passing) of Bowie being accused publicly by multiple people of having committed statutory rape? There are many, many discussions about this throughout the internet, with (from what I can tell) the main sources here, here, here, and here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.147.63.223 ( talk) 02:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Is it remotely relevant that Bowie's mother's paternal grandparents were Irish immigrants??? This smacks of some Irish nationalist determined to shoehorn in some reference to Irishness that is just not relevant to anything. How has this become seemingly a permanent part of this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.93.4.237 ( talk) 21:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
There are many references and quotes to a work by "Sandford (1997)" that include page citations, but no title of a work. Earlier in the body text, he's mentioned as being "Christopher Sanford", which is all well and good, but gives no note as to which work by which Christopher Sandford is being referenced. Later in the citations, there's one for Loving the Alien, but it's listed as having come out in 2009 and not 1997. Are ALL instances referring to Loving the Alien (both updated and unupdated versions)? And if so, can someone please standardise the citations have a title of work being cited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KissMe666 ( talk • contribs) 00:36, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
/boʊi/ "boh-ee" or /baʊi/ "bow-ee"? I use the first, but I've heard the latter used occasionally. Would it be good to list /baʊi/ as another pronunciation, even if different from how the man himself said it? EditWorker ( talk) 10:41, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
I feel that this article may focus too much on his life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.143.140.223 ( talk) 17:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
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I posted this on the Never Let Me Down talk page too, but asking here for visibility. Where do we put information about NLMD '18? It's a notable release in some aspects (do any search for news about it, and there's plenty), it's the first (and only) Bowie record to be re-engineered this way, but it's apparently not going to be released outside of the Loving The Alien box set. Do we put information about NLMD '18 in its own article? in the NLMD article? In the Loving The Alien box set page? Looking for consensus here. Thanks. 87Fan ( talk) 18:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Should we list /baʊi/ as another pronunciation of his name, possibly as a variant? I personally pronounce it /boʊi/, but I've heard plenty of people pronounce it /baʊi/. EditWorker ( talk) 11:50, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Seeing as David Bowie's sexuality has its own section, I believe his ephebophilia, alleged by Lori Maddox who claims to have lost her virginity to him at age fourteen, is relevant information. As long as the article lists them as allegations (rather than decided fact), I think they have a spot in this article. Since Wikipedia already hosts articles such as Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations, Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations, Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations, Woody Allen sexual assault allegation, and others, there is no basis to suggest that allegations do not belong on Wikipedia. Especially given that they are sourced directly from an interview of Lori Maddox, not mentioning this (pretty relevant) aspect of Bowie's sexuality is simply leaving relevant information out of the article. Deliberately suppressing her firsthand statements would likely only come across as a biased attempt at protecting Bowie's legacy, which would not fit with Wikipedia's policy of neutrality. I believe the recently-undone edit succinctly addresses the issue in a properly neutral and correct manner. Et0048 ( talk) 00:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
23 July 2018: "David Bowie's first known studio recording is set to go up for auction, after it was reportedly discovered in an old bread basket.": The Independent, The Guardian, BBC. Martinevans123 ( talk) 13:34, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
David Bowie and Marc Bolan (T.Rex) were friends, and I'm aware of at least one time when they performed together. It was on Marc's [British] TV show, "Marc" [1] (They were having quite a great time, and at the end Marc famously fell off the stage, much to David's amusement).
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It's been quite a long time since the last discussion about instruments in the infobox... but really I don't think there needs to be another discussion. He played guitar and saxophone very often, and keyboards on occasion, so those two or three should be added. Also "musician" to the occupations (singer, songwriter (or singer-songwriter), musician and actor). It is obviously false to say he wasn't a musician since, well, he was. If nobody objects with good reasons (no, you don't decide what one "thinks of" when they think of David Bowie), I'll add this stuff at some point soon. PerhapsXarb ( talk) 10:45, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Well, nobody seems to mind, so I'll do it PerhapsXarb ( talk) 04:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
OK if nobody cares I'll actually do it. User:MarnetteD? You seem to be enforcing this so read what I wrote above. I don't want a big debate though since that makes editing on Wikipedia get tiring very fast. PerhapsXarb ( talk) 07:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Musician is still not added to his occupations. Why? He played instruments. He was a musician. This is stupid. Dyaluk08 ( talk) 09:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
How on earth is it relevant or meaningful that 2 out of 8 of his great-grandparents were Irish? How on earth has this nonsense survived so long in this article? Can an editor remove this silliness please? If this must survive in this article can someone give some information about the other 6 great grandparents. Maybe we could even go back another generation or two? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.4.59 ( talk) 06:40, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
His acting career can be compiled into one section. To have it put into separate decades is wholly unnecessary, especially when the article is already loaded with subsections. Nampa DC ( talk) 16:13, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
I divided it up into decades because, as he had dozens of roles over a 40+ year career, it makes the section easier to read and understand as the section grows more detailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to change the main photo of the article? Since he's gone (sadly) we can use an image from his prime instead of the most recent image. I propose we change the main image to this ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:David_Bowie_1975.jpg) as it's a headshot from his prime where he's looking forward. If I'm wrong in any way please correct me or tell me so. Thank you! CarterLennon ( talk) 22:07, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 19:08, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Definitely a good idea but I don't think that's a better image to use than the current one - it's so tied to the Young Americans period only and isn't as recognisable and neutral to Bowie's entire career as say an image from 1978, or 2002 as it is at the moment. Humbledaisy ( talk) 18:59, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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Please add something mentioning the spider named after David Bowie. Adonalsium82 ( talk) 18:24, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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18:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)On the page currently, Bowie's years active are "1962–2009 2013-2016", the rationale being Bowie's last film role was in 2009, and 2013 was when he released a new album, The Next Day. However, The Next Day was in the pipeline for two years - recording began in 2011 - so making his years active only resume in 2013 seems to be incorrect. I know Bowie had a break from the public eye for around a decade leading up to its release, but wouldn't it be better to list years active as "1962 - 2016"? Humbledaisy 27 December 2019
The article's subject is dead. 72.76.163.6 ( talk) 20:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
SouthofHeaven1981, keep in mind that this is a WP:FA (featured article) and that extra care should be taken when editing it. See WP:CAREFUL and Wikipedia:Ownership of content#Featured articles. I'm not disputing any of your most recent changes. I'm simply alerting you to the fact that, like WP:CAREFUL states, "In many cases, the text as you find it has come into being after long and arduous negotiations between Wikipedians of diverse backgrounds and points of view." Some of your changes may need discussion first. Be open to bringing matters to the talk page before making significant changes. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 23:51, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
I’ve restored the article to its stable (and featured article) layout dated 9 January 2020 at 21:50. The reason is his life directly impacted on his music. They are intrinsically linked. It’s not something you can separate and add in later in it’s own category. His alienation with LA via his drug use caused his subsequent move to Berlin. The music he produced was tied to the experiences of whatever place he was based in at the time. His music changed because he changed wherever he happened to be. PD Rivers ( talk) 21:28, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Okay, then my question is, why even have other sections? Why not just combine it all into one giant chronological narrative combining music, acting & other work, and divide it up by time period? If BowieNet & Bowie Bonds somehow contributed to Outside & Earthling, and a year painting in Switzerland contributed to the Berlin Trilogy, then surely Labyrinth contributed to his late 80s pop music, & The Elephant Man contributed to Scary Monsters. If we either divide it up into different types of work, or combine it into one narrative, I feel like either would be a smoother read than expecting people to jump around & try to find what they're looking for. SouthofHeaven1981 —Preceding undated comment added 13:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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CHANGE: "1972–1974: Ziggy Stardust
Bowie during the Ziggy Stardust Tour, 1972–1973 Dressed in a striking costume, his hair dyed reddish-brown, Bowie launched his Ziggy Stardust stage show with the Spiders from Mars—Ronson, Bolder, and Woodmansey—at the Toby Jug pub in Tolworth in Kingston upon Thames on 10 February 1972."
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Why no films at all? By all means suggest criteria for selection of a list, or a source that makes such a selection. But to just ditch the whole list like this because "open to much argument about what is included; "selected" by who? UNSOURCED" looks like a mindless tantrum. 86.186.37.225 ( talk) 19:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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Please add Stephen Ray Vaughan to the Associated Acts section. SVR's guitar plaing on Let's Dance is iconic and a significant contribution to the success of that album and to a shift in Bowie's style at that point in his career.
Thanks for your consideration. DavidDeMello ( talk) 15:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
A sock is trying to add a discography section to this article, and have included a link to a separate article that specifically deals with listing Bowie's discography. Ok, I thought this might've been bloody obvious, but the Bowie biography already has the link to the separate Bowie discography article, which is appropriately placed at the top of the "Music career" section, so it doesn't need it repeated below. Also, the list which is trying to be added above is also sourceless and this is a featured article, hence why I have deleted it. Source it or lose it. Cassianto Talk 17:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
FYI I’m not a sock account, just a new account. I wasn’t aware this was an issue on the page prior to editing, I did have a glance at the last 2 archived talk pages of the article but didn’t see any consensus about the discography section other than people trying to add soundtracks. I won’t attempt re-add the discography section. I didn’t realise it would be an issue. NNDDRRWW ( talk) 01:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I’ve had previous accounts but I’m not using this as a sock account, my previous account hasn’t even edited this page. And for reference my old account was User:OBLIVIUS. NNDDRRWW ( talk) 02:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
PD Rivers reverted my previous edits, but I hold that Bowie Bonds & BowieNet have absolutely nothing to do with his music output in the mid 90s and should not be categorized under his "Music career." I suggest that we add an "Other works" subcategory that includes that, along with his painting/art collecting career (which is already categorized separately). Does anyone have any objections to me making that edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 14:55, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Why is this utter nonsense being included in a featured article? Cassianto Talk 15:48, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Because David Bowie was a multifaceted person who was involved in many different things, and Wikipedia is where people go to read about them? Refrain from talking to either of us like that, as you are (I assume) not a child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 16:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
The fun of his career is in the little details & side tours. Go ahead & apply for whatever you want if it makes you feel like a big strong boi. Sincerely, signed, gatekeepers suck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 19:23, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
I suppose the following is incorrect, but I encountered it in several places and I figure that having it here will make it easier to negate. Several pages, such as [6] claim that before starting to use the name David Bowie, he used the stage name Tom Jones for a while, but had to rename because of Tom Jones (singer). The biography here does not seem to leave room for such an extra rename. Tzafrir ( talk) 16:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The 1987 rape allegation that was dismissed due to lack of evidence, should be included in his personal life, there are reliable sources readily available from that time to cite. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassidd ( talk • contribs) 14:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Why isn't there a discography section that includes all his studio albums? Most other artists I see on WP have that so why not Bowie? – zmbro ( talk) 16:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Per Template:Infobox musical artist, the "Associated acts" field in the inbox is not for one-off collaborations. This means that Queen, for example, should not be in there. It's a very long list and I suspect many of other acts should be removed too. Can someone more familiar with Bowie check this? Popcornfud ( talk) 23:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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Berthold Brecht in the text there is Bertold Brecht 2A02:8071:31AA:2600:610E:3B7A:39F5:38CA ( talk) 14:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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David Bowie’s signature should be added to the page 68.110.234.72 ( talk) 21:55, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Should we consider him a koto player? 79.27.127.77 ( talk) 09:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of The Times ones, you shouldn't have to pay to confirm.
If there isn't all good. Just seems a bit silly.
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At the very least, the link to the discography page should be under its own 'Discography' section, as seems to be the convention. I had to do a search to find it in its current position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BariNeon ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
David Bowie went out of the public eye in 2006, he came back in 2013 and finished his last album just before his death
Years active should state: 1967-1987 - he took a break after the glass spider tour 1990-2006 and 2013-2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgoh7622 ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
This has been discussed previously. The 'gaps' referred to here don't take into account various acting roles and the preparation for new music that he was undertaking during those years. -SouthofHeaven1981
If no one objects, I'm going to move the information about the David Bowie Is museum exhibit out of the "Music career" section and into the "Legacy" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 15:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
If nobody objects, I'd like to take a crack at reorganizing a couple paragraphs in the section "1968–1971: Space Oddity to Hunky Dory." Huge chunks of the narrative are about Bowie's early relationships with several women, with minimal information about his musical output at the time (this section is listed under "Music career") and I feel like a lot of that information would be better suited to the "Personal life" subsection. The parts that are about him working on music at the time (his collaborations with Hermione Farthingale, for instance) would still be in this section, but the rest of the info should be moved in my opinion. -SouthofHeaven1981 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs) 18:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
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05:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)Craw Allen, regarding this and this? Why would readers want to go to the List of cultural icons of England article instead of the Cultural icon article? The list article doesn't tell them anything about what an icon is. And whatever number Bowie is on whatever list can be mentioned in the Davie Bowie article. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 04:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
No need to ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 04:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
How do we feel about the last 2 paragraphs of the 'Thin White Duke' subsection of the 'Music career' section? That entire section is about Bowie's flirtation with fascism and fascist imagery, virtually no references to the music he was touring behind at the time. There is also some redundant info on this in the 'Politics' section, I think that it could all be combined into one entry under Politics. SouthofHeaven1981 ( talk • contribs 15:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
His song was No Control, which was an unreleased song from Outside that was tweaked to work with the musical. I just think its a neat fact that should be covered briefly as it wouldn't add too much to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chunkert ( talk • contribs) 22:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
'Girlfriend' Lindsay Kempe? Vandalism, I presume? 195.213.55.31 ( talk) 19:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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ALRIGHT it refers to lindsay kemp as david bowie's girlfriend but lindsay kemp is a guy i think? 82.29.78.181 ( talk) 00:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
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The "associated acts" bit should probably be reviewed, Lennon and Jagger should probably be added (esp. considering Bowie is listed as an "associated act" on the latter's page) InlineCitations ( talk) 08:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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21:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)There's nothing much about Savage Records in this write up (just before Black Tie White Noise when he signed a $3.4 million deal with the record label). I thought it would be more prominent in the article with some people at the time pointing to the troubles at Savage to why the album wasn't a big hit in the USA....
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"David Mimran's Savage Records (known for British band Soho and their Smiths-sampling indie-dance hit "Hippychick" in 1991) [1] [2] was set up by the Swiss teenager in 1986 and funded by his multi-millionaire father. Due to the almost endless financing of his father and the fact their A&R manager (a Swiss record shop owner called Bernard Fanin) had industry experience, the label managed to make it into the 1990s with a number of dance and hip-hop hits by artists such as Silver Bullet and A Homeboy, Hippy and A Funky Dread (issued on Savage's Tam Tam dance label). [3] [4] Around the time Soho had their top ten UK hit, [5] [6] [7] Mimran decided that Savage would not just be a British indie, but would be an American major instead. Savage Records went on a spending spree in America, which resulted in them opening plush offices on Broadway, hiring Michael Jackson's manager Frank DiLeo and signing David Bowie to a massive $3.4 million record deal, all which ended when Mimran's father, Jean Claude, cut finances." [8] [9] [10] [11] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.173.247 ( talk) 18:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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First mention of full name of biographer David Buckley is not at first use in article. 71.214.93.142 ( talk) 01:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
I added a paragraph on Bowie's sexuality, namely his alleged relationship with an underage girl in the 1970's. It has been widely publicised and deserves to be mentioned in this article, in my opinion, also bearing in mind the relevance this subject has to the current "Me-too" movement. Jeroen1961 ( talk) 02:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Courtesy links to previous discussion of this issue: Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_7#Ephebophilia, Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_6#Lori_Mattix, Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_2#Pedophile?, Talk:David_Bowie/Archive_5#Lori_Maddox Schazjmd (talk) 22:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Given that this page is no longer a BLP I dont think we can keep the information completely off the page, although there is of course room for discussions of scope, prominence, etc. Horse Eye's Back ( talk) 23:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)