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After requesting a peer review of this David Bentley Hart article, I received the suggestion in connection to Hart's long list of selected "Articles" that "if many of these works are notable, perhaps WP:SPINOUT into another article" because the lists were too long for the main article. Hart's career has been shaped in large part by his rhetorical punch as an essayist, and the wide variety of topics that he covers in his essays across an long list of national periodicals is a substantial part of his reputation and appeal. It would make sense to expand his bibliography along the lines of the George Orwell bibliography or the G. K. Chesterton bibliography. At the same time, this main David Bentley Hart article needs to be better developed and expanded. To make room for this work on the main article while also developing and referencing the content of Hart's bibliography a WP:SPINOUT made sense: David Bentley Hart bibliography Much feedback and help will be needed in determining the selected articles to keep in this main article.-- Jjhake ( talk) 03:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Seeking improve this article in keeping with some requested peer review feedback, I have moved all lists of works to the David Bentley Hart bibliography with links there. The goal is develop this main article flows smoothly from start to finish in prose form and to allow a full accounting of Hart's notable works to be maintained in its own article. Jjhake ( talk) 12:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Helloheart ( talk · contribs) 00:09, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
(Criteria marked
are unassessed)
I'll add more to this as I go:
Helloheart 00:39, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
It's well written (I learned a lot), follows the MoS. I double-checked the MoS for this review, and it was good except for a few problems which were solved. It, overall, is worthy of being a good article. Good job, @ Jjhake. Helloheart 03:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for this review and the improvements! Jjhake ( talk) 03:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Cielquiparle (
talk)
11:44, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Jjhake ( talk). Self-nominated at 04:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/David Bentley Hart; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
ALT1@ Pbritti: Below is another idea that should be fully supported within article citations already. Jjhake ( talk) 23:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC) ... that David Bentley Hart translated the New Testament for Yale University Press and believes in fairies with the encouragement of his dog Roland (pictured) who is the hero of a recent book?
For anyone else following edits on this article and interested in helping, please note that there is a second peer review underway here (by an exceptionally experienced Wikipedia editor) that is driving another round of article improvements with the hope of reaching featured article. Jjhake ( talk) 01:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
For anyone following the work on this page, please note that, as a part of an ongoing peer review (see topic above), a navbox has been created for this article and all articles for books by Hart. See Template:David Bentley Hart (and the bottom of this article on Hart as well as each book article).
As part of this, to help keep Hart's main article text clear and readable, some of the many wikilinks to Hart's interests, influences, and opponents (from the article text, the infobox, and the "See also" section in its entirety) have been relocated to this Navbox. Ideas and help welcome of course with these substantial (and ongoing) edits. Jjhake ( talk) 14:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Note that within a peer review of this article underway here the point has been made that a “lead should normally have zero citations because it should be a summary of the body.” This is the last step in this second peer review (along with a third full article review recently as part of the recent GA review process). In the next couple of days, I plan to move all citations in the lead down into the article body and to rework the lead (as moderately as possible) so that the lead is a complete (and succinct) summary of the entire article body. Ideas and help with any of this task welcome with edits or comments here. Jjhake ( talk) 13:18, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Update: In addition to the relocation of citations and the summarizing of all content from the article body within the lead (both done in recent edits), the final peer review comment recommended a first paragraph in the lead that would summarize just the key elements of the entire lead (a kind of "summary of the summary"). So I'll be seeking to do this next as the last item to implement from this most recent review. -- Jjhake ( talk) 20:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
For anyone following or able to help with ongoing edits on this article, please see the featured article candidate project page for a recent set of recommendations. Jjhake ( talk) 22:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I guess people find it funny but this is the perfect example of an "academic" best ignored. 145.102.152.2 ( talk) 09:03, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
If I’m correct in interpreting David Hart, I can say unequivocally: The story of Jesus walking on water during the storm, where Peter gets out of the boat, and as he is drowning, Jesus approaches, lifts him up a proof text for understanding the early church fathers beliefs while writing the Nicene Creed. 2601:3C7:4200:1A1:9DFC:6432:F655:A42B ( talk) 17:05, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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After requesting a peer review of this David Bentley Hart article, I received the suggestion in connection to Hart's long list of selected "Articles" that "if many of these works are notable, perhaps WP:SPINOUT into another article" because the lists were too long for the main article. Hart's career has been shaped in large part by his rhetorical punch as an essayist, and the wide variety of topics that he covers in his essays across an long list of national periodicals is a substantial part of his reputation and appeal. It would make sense to expand his bibliography along the lines of the George Orwell bibliography or the G. K. Chesterton bibliography. At the same time, this main David Bentley Hart article needs to be better developed and expanded. To make room for this work on the main article while also developing and referencing the content of Hart's bibliography a WP:SPINOUT made sense: David Bentley Hart bibliography Much feedback and help will be needed in determining the selected articles to keep in this main article.-- Jjhake ( talk) 03:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Seeking improve this article in keeping with some requested peer review feedback, I have moved all lists of works to the David Bentley Hart bibliography with links there. The goal is develop this main article flows smoothly from start to finish in prose form and to allow a full accounting of Hart's notable works to be maintained in its own article. Jjhake ( talk) 12:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Helloheart ( talk · contribs) 00:09, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
(Criteria marked
are unassessed)
I'll add more to this as I go:
Helloheart 00:39, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
It's well written (I learned a lot), follows the MoS. I double-checked the MoS for this review, and it was good except for a few problems which were solved. It, overall, is worthy of being a good article. Good job, @ Jjhake. Helloheart 03:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for this review and the improvements! Jjhake ( talk) 03:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Cielquiparle (
talk)
11:44, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Jjhake ( talk). Self-nominated at 04:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/David Bentley Hart; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
ALT1@ Pbritti: Below is another idea that should be fully supported within article citations already. Jjhake ( talk) 23:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC) ... that David Bentley Hart translated the New Testament for Yale University Press and believes in fairies with the encouragement of his dog Roland (pictured) who is the hero of a recent book?
For anyone else following edits on this article and interested in helping, please note that there is a second peer review underway here (by an exceptionally experienced Wikipedia editor) that is driving another round of article improvements with the hope of reaching featured article. Jjhake ( talk) 01:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
For anyone following the work on this page, please note that, as a part of an ongoing peer review (see topic above), a navbox has been created for this article and all articles for books by Hart. See Template:David Bentley Hart (and the bottom of this article on Hart as well as each book article).
As part of this, to help keep Hart's main article text clear and readable, some of the many wikilinks to Hart's interests, influences, and opponents (from the article text, the infobox, and the "See also" section in its entirety) have been relocated to this Navbox. Ideas and help welcome of course with these substantial (and ongoing) edits. Jjhake ( talk) 14:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Note that within a peer review of this article underway here the point has been made that a “lead should normally have zero citations because it should be a summary of the body.” This is the last step in this second peer review (along with a third full article review recently as part of the recent GA review process). In the next couple of days, I plan to move all citations in the lead down into the article body and to rework the lead (as moderately as possible) so that the lead is a complete (and succinct) summary of the entire article body. Ideas and help with any of this task welcome with edits or comments here. Jjhake ( talk) 13:18, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Update: In addition to the relocation of citations and the summarizing of all content from the article body within the lead (both done in recent edits), the final peer review comment recommended a first paragraph in the lead that would summarize just the key elements of the entire lead (a kind of "summary of the summary"). So I'll be seeking to do this next as the last item to implement from this most recent review. -- Jjhake ( talk) 20:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
For anyone following or able to help with ongoing edits on this article, please see the featured article candidate project page for a recent set of recommendations. Jjhake ( talk) 22:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I guess people find it funny but this is the perfect example of an "academic" best ignored. 145.102.152.2 ( talk) 09:03, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
If I’m correct in interpreting David Hart, I can say unequivocally: The story of Jesus walking on water during the storm, where Peter gets out of the boat, and as he is drowning, Jesus approaches, lifts him up a proof text for understanding the early church fathers beliefs while writing the Nicene Creed. 2601:3C7:4200:1A1:9DFC:6432:F655:A42B ( talk) 17:05, 29 August 2023 (UTC)