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I tried to clean it up somewhat - it was totally disorganized and littered with obviously false joke statements and NPOV interjections - but it's still pretty atrocious, and I'm not sure how much of it is true. Ugh. - Elmer Clark 04:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey this page is disorganized with everyone's statements but i'm leaving one too so i can't say anything but I l.o.v.e. your books and I hope you write some more cause you have a great talent no one else has! see U later! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.67.234.254 ( talk) 17:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Why does this article redirect from "Sue Denim"? There's no mention of it on this page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.87.162.208 ( talk) 12:21, 3 May 2007
In the beginning of the article, it says he wrote the Captain Underpants and The Adventures of Super Diaper baby at age 12. Is this right? -- Firesun 14:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know anything about the release date of any of Dav's next books? The last C.U. book was released in 2006, and his website hasn't been updated since then. >_> 114.77.6.119 ( talk) 08:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
That's because Dav's been taking a break for a few years, so he can help his ill father. Oh, wait and there will be a book from him that will be reasuled in August 2010-- 72.161.59.164 ( talk) 23:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)I got it its called The Adventures of Ook and Gluk Kung Fu Cavemen From the Future. It is cool. I got the last copy of it in the shop. Shnupbups ( talk) 11:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The quotation needs to be properly cited, or paraphrased. If keeping as a quote, it should be framed as a cquote. Better to paraphrase and cite the actual publication containing this quotation. Trashbird1240 ( talk) 20:47, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
This is Dav Pilkey. I moved to the Seattle, WA area in 1999 and NOT with Cynthia Rylant. The biographical reference cited is incorrect. The newest biography written about me has a lot of misinformation too. I also do NOT see why any past relationship with any famous person is relevant in wikipedia unless the relationship had a significant influence on the person's career (which was not the case with Cynthia Rylant, just pure happenstance that we are both authors). Wikipedia should not be a gossip page. 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 15:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 15:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
This was an UNAUTHORIZED biography of my life. I am Dav Pilkey. I do NOT want to use legal action to pursue this which I chose not to use against the unauthorized biography. Please delete Cynthia Rylant's name. I also moved to the Seattle, WA area in 1999. There are too many articles written about me that are incorrect. Wikipedia is a source many people turn to and I would appreciate it if this paragraph is deleted. It does not enhance the article. I am not familiar with the computer language and deleted the material without giving proper reasons. How must I prove that I am Dav Pilkey? 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 00:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey
I am not familiar with how wikipedia works. I did send an email to complain. I disagree with the MISINFORMATION. It has nothing to do with disliking the material. This has become a problem, not only on Wikipedia but from other sources. How do I prove I moved to the Seattle area in 1999? I bought a condo on Bainbridge Island, WA in 1999. Do you need to see the title? I did NOT move there with Cynthia Rylant although we did date. We did not live together. The article is misleading.
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Then you need to write all of the people I dated, some people I dated for much longer. I am an author/illustrator NOT a hollywood person. Who I dated is irrelevant UNLESS she had a negative, positive or some sort of impact on my career. It really makes no sense and it does not enhance the article. 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 11:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey
I'm getting tired of repeating myself, but you have offered no evidence whatsoever that Dav Pilkey moved to Seattle in 1999. On the other hand, we have several published sources that agree that he moved to Eugene, Oregon with Cynthia Rylant and her son, with whom he lived for several years. Therefore, this is an important episode in Pilkey's life, and deleting it without any evidence whatsoever is whitewashing the article. It doesn't matter whether you are Dav Pilkey -- it matters that you have not offered any evidence to back up the version of the facts that you would like us to reflect. Simply deleting well-referenced material from the encyclopedia is vandalism, and you certainly shouldn't be vandalizing Rylant's article. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 12:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
The book is wrong. There are other sources that have taken from each other the same wrong information. Cynthia Rylant and I have never given a personal interview about us living together in Eugene, OR - because we never did live together or move together. We have had many, many problems in the past, with wrong information - even from our publishers. It's quite amazing what people say or do to get some sort of "story". 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 14:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey
Hi, R.S. Peale. The book by McGinty is a biography of Cynthia Rylant. McGinty is an award-winning author, and a review of the book says: "This biography is both comprehensive and engaging and written for children to understand." (search for "McGinty"). The book gets 5 stars on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Cynthia-Rylant-Library-Author-Biographies/dp/B005Q86QV8 It seems to be a very clear WP:RS. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 21:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I changed "lived with" to dated. This is a fact. Cynthia Rylant and Dav Pilkey never lived together. Thanks for removing the dates. The Pilkey website will be updated in the future. Just for all of your information, does not matter if you are an "award winning" author. Depends on the award and the people who gave the award. It doesn't matter if Amazon gave it 5 stars. How many people read the book and gave the 5 star review - one?? I believe Wikipedia needs to find RELIABLE sources, otherwise it becomes a place of only people's opinions -which is really what this "TALK" page is about. 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 23:07, 15 July 2013 (UTC)davpilkey
I will continue to dispute McGinty's book and other sources that write incorrect or misleading information. I still do NOT believe adding the piece of information about Cynthia Rylant enhances the biographical information. In fact, it reads poorly. It reads like someone "stuck" it in there for gossip sake. Dav Pilkey and Cynthia Rylant lived in two different houses in Eugene, OR and NEVER, EVER lived together as boyfriend and girlfriend. I think the McGinty author must have assumed they lived together because they both moved there together around the same time and were dating. The biography section read much better without this paragraph. Please take in account Zagalejo's comment above. Thanks.
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23:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey Cite error: There are <ref>
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Why even insert the paragraph of Pilkey moving to Eugene, OR and then to Seattle, WA if you are not going to put a timeline of where Pilkey lived from 1966 until present. He doesn't currently live in Seattle, WA. It really seems irrelevant and awkward. Why not list all of the people he dated too. Cynthia Rylant isn't the only famous person he dated. References #4 and #5 are not properly sourced and are not qualified to be encyclopedic references. Is it to direct people Cynthia Rylant's website? In order to create a better biography, it's best to delete sources that have not done good research.
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12:26, 16 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey Cite error: There are <ref>
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People come here to read articles which provide a reasonably detailed picture of the topic. In the case of people they want to read a bit about the life of the subject, what inspired them, what motivated them, even what moulded them. They do not want just a list of books written. I am not familiar with Mr Pilkey or his work, but I would want to know a bit about his life if I came here for his article. Obviously the person best placed to write about Mr Pilkey is Mr Pilkey. If he disputes the information in his article who is better placed or more knowledgeable about the subject to be able to provide accurate sources and references to correct the article if it needs correcting. Jack1956 ( talk) 21:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I've reasonably authenticated via OTRS that the request made above by the unregistered user is in fact a genuine request by the subject. Agents can access the communications at VRTS ticket # 2013071510000292. I've removed the information pursuant to WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPGOSSIP. While this information has been published in a book, it is disputed by the subject and has not been independently covered in other reliable sources. The subject has agreed to add a brief biography which can then be archived for posterity, but while we're waiting for those changes I believe removal is justified. I'll update here when I have additional verification to offer. L Faraone 17:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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Some may wonder why I'm mentioning that she was his girlfriend. This was actually a close relationship since:
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@ Kojisasuke: Concerning this edit, the page with the Dav Pilkey papers says: "Manuscripts -- The Adventures of Captain Underpants, dummy proof with editing marks by Cynthia Rylant, [1996]" - This mean she actively helped Pilkey edit the book, right? WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
1. Cynthia Rylant did NOT help edit his books. This is another mistake in reporting. She proofread some of his books. Other people who have looked over his books have never, ever been mentioned. Here is a blatant case of another author or illustrator taking credit for Pilkey's independent work. It seems people want to take credit for doing spellcheck or slightly moving artwork over one space and then have their names attached to actually doing the art or helping with the editing and writing. This happens frequently to Dav Pilkey because he happens to be very kind to the people he encounters. If you correct a word that is misspelled or change minor grammatical errors, I don't think that counts as editing. This is called proofreading. If she influenced the story or changed the story or made the story better, this is called editing. Pilkey stated he was frequently misquoted and frequently misrepresented but it was because he wasn't very well known at the time and many of the reporters were sloppy in checking their story. 2. Same as above. 3. True but then you have to give credit to her cat not to her. If you are going to mention people who have actually influenced Pilkey's work, Rylant is not important. I think you should have mentioned his principal who was based on Mr. Krupp or his neighbor, who is the Paperboy (which won the Caldecott Honor). 4. NOT true. He made a card for her based on Dragon. She did NOT inspire the character of Dragon or Dragon's Halloween.
She happened to be in his life at the time his career took off with Captain Underpants. She had nothing to do with his career taking off. In fact, Pilkey has stated that she resented his success.
@ 2601:600:c67f:1590:d492:6973:d4e3:f53c: As per Wikipedia:Verifiability: "Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors." This means that published sources should be the basis of article content. It's possible that misquotations may happen from time to time, but without published information to the contrary I have nothing else to go on.
WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Suggest removing the lists of "Captain Underpants" and "Ricky Ricotta's Mighty Robot" series, but keeping the links to their respective series' main articles. This would prevent the respective redundant lists from getting out of sync with each other due to frequent new publications, which is currently the case with "Captain Underpants". Acwilson9 ( talk) 04:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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I tried to clean it up somewhat - it was totally disorganized and littered with obviously false joke statements and NPOV interjections - but it's still pretty atrocious, and I'm not sure how much of it is true. Ugh. - Elmer Clark 04:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey this page is disorganized with everyone's statements but i'm leaving one too so i can't say anything but I l.o.v.e. your books and I hope you write some more cause you have a great talent no one else has! see U later! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.67.234.254 ( talk) 17:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Why does this article redirect from "Sue Denim"? There's no mention of it on this page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.87.162.208 ( talk) 12:21, 3 May 2007
In the beginning of the article, it says he wrote the Captain Underpants and The Adventures of Super Diaper baby at age 12. Is this right? -- Firesun 14:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know anything about the release date of any of Dav's next books? The last C.U. book was released in 2006, and his website hasn't been updated since then. >_> 114.77.6.119 ( talk) 08:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
That's because Dav's been taking a break for a few years, so he can help his ill father. Oh, wait and there will be a book from him that will be reasuled in August 2010-- 72.161.59.164 ( talk) 23:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)I got it its called The Adventures of Ook and Gluk Kung Fu Cavemen From the Future. It is cool. I got the last copy of it in the shop. Shnupbups ( talk) 11:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The quotation needs to be properly cited, or paraphrased. If keeping as a quote, it should be framed as a cquote. Better to paraphrase and cite the actual publication containing this quotation. Trashbird1240 ( talk) 20:47, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
This is Dav Pilkey. I moved to the Seattle, WA area in 1999 and NOT with Cynthia Rylant. The biographical reference cited is incorrect. The newest biography written about me has a lot of misinformation too. I also do NOT see why any past relationship with any famous person is relevant in wikipedia unless the relationship had a significant influence on the person's career (which was not the case with Cynthia Rylant, just pure happenstance that we are both authors). Wikipedia should not be a gossip page. 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 15:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 15:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
This was an UNAUTHORIZED biography of my life. I am Dav Pilkey. I do NOT want to use legal action to pursue this which I chose not to use against the unauthorized biography. Please delete Cynthia Rylant's name. I also moved to the Seattle, WA area in 1999. There are too many articles written about me that are incorrect. Wikipedia is a source many people turn to and I would appreciate it if this paragraph is deleted. It does not enhance the article. I am not familiar with the computer language and deleted the material without giving proper reasons. How must I prove that I am Dav Pilkey? 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 00:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey
I am not familiar with how wikipedia works. I did send an email to complain. I disagree with the MISINFORMATION. It has nothing to do with disliking the material. This has become a problem, not only on Wikipedia but from other sources. How do I prove I moved to the Seattle area in 1999? I bought a condo on Bainbridge Island, WA in 1999. Do you need to see the title? I did NOT move there with Cynthia Rylant although we did date. We did not live together. The article is misleading.
58.92.253.234 (
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10:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).DavPilkey www.pilkey.com
Then you need to write all of the people I dated, some people I dated for much longer. I am an author/illustrator NOT a hollywood person. Who I dated is irrelevant UNLESS she had a negative, positive or some sort of impact on my career. It really makes no sense and it does not enhance the article. 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 11:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey
I'm getting tired of repeating myself, but you have offered no evidence whatsoever that Dav Pilkey moved to Seattle in 1999. On the other hand, we have several published sources that agree that he moved to Eugene, Oregon with Cynthia Rylant and her son, with whom he lived for several years. Therefore, this is an important episode in Pilkey's life, and deleting it without any evidence whatsoever is whitewashing the article. It doesn't matter whether you are Dav Pilkey -- it matters that you have not offered any evidence to back up the version of the facts that you would like us to reflect. Simply deleting well-referenced material from the encyclopedia is vandalism, and you certainly shouldn't be vandalizing Rylant's article. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 12:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
The book is wrong. There are other sources that have taken from each other the same wrong information. Cynthia Rylant and I have never given a personal interview about us living together in Eugene, OR - because we never did live together or move together. We have had many, many problems in the past, with wrong information - even from our publishers. It's quite amazing what people say or do to get some sort of "story". 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 14:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey
Hi, R.S. Peale. The book by McGinty is a biography of Cynthia Rylant. McGinty is an award-winning author, and a review of the book says: "This biography is both comprehensive and engaging and written for children to understand." (search for "McGinty"). The book gets 5 stars on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Cynthia-Rylant-Library-Author-Biographies/dp/B005Q86QV8 It seems to be a very clear WP:RS. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 21:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I changed "lived with" to dated. This is a fact. Cynthia Rylant and Dav Pilkey never lived together. Thanks for removing the dates. The Pilkey website will be updated in the future. Just for all of your information, does not matter if you are an "award winning" author. Depends on the award and the people who gave the award. It doesn't matter if Amazon gave it 5 stars. How many people read the book and gave the 5 star review - one?? I believe Wikipedia needs to find RELIABLE sources, otherwise it becomes a place of only people's opinions -which is really what this "TALK" page is about. 58.92.253.234 ( talk) 23:07, 15 July 2013 (UTC)davpilkey
I will continue to dispute McGinty's book and other sources that write incorrect or misleading information. I still do NOT believe adding the piece of information about Cynthia Rylant enhances the biographical information. In fact, it reads poorly. It reads like someone "stuck" it in there for gossip sake. Dav Pilkey and Cynthia Rylant lived in two different houses in Eugene, OR and NEVER, EVER lived together as boyfriend and girlfriend. I think the McGinty author must have assumed they lived together because they both moved there together around the same time and were dating. The biography section read much better without this paragraph. Please take in account Zagalejo's comment above. Thanks.
58.92.253.234 (
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23:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).
Why even insert the paragraph of Pilkey moving to Eugene, OR and then to Seattle, WA if you are not going to put a timeline of where Pilkey lived from 1966 until present. He doesn't currently live in Seattle, WA. It really seems irrelevant and awkward. Why not list all of the people he dated too. Cynthia Rylant isn't the only famous person he dated. References #4 and #5 are not properly sourced and are not qualified to be encyclopedic references. Is it to direct people Cynthia Rylant's website? In order to create a better biography, it's best to delete sources that have not done good research.
58.92.253.234 (
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12:26, 16 July 2013 (UTC)Dav Pilkey Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).davpilkey
People come here to read articles which provide a reasonably detailed picture of the topic. In the case of people they want to read a bit about the life of the subject, what inspired them, what motivated them, even what moulded them. They do not want just a list of books written. I am not familiar with Mr Pilkey or his work, but I would want to know a bit about his life if I came here for his article. Obviously the person best placed to write about Mr Pilkey is Mr Pilkey. If he disputes the information in his article who is better placed or more knowledgeable about the subject to be able to provide accurate sources and references to correct the article if it needs correcting. Jack1956 ( talk) 21:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I've reasonably authenticated via OTRS that the request made above by the unregistered user is in fact a genuine request by the subject. Agents can access the communications at VRTS ticket # 2013071510000292. I've removed the information pursuant to WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPGOSSIP. While this information has been published in a book, it is disputed by the subject and has not been independently covered in other reliable sources. The subject has agreed to add a brief biography which can then be archived for posterity, but while we're waiting for those changes I believe removal is justified. I'll update here when I have additional verification to offer. L Faraone 17:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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Some may wonder why I'm mentioning that she was his girlfriend. This was actually a close relationship since:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 03:11, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Kojisasuke: Concerning this edit, the page with the Dav Pilkey papers says: "Manuscripts -- The Adventures of Captain Underpants, dummy proof with editing marks by Cynthia Rylant, [1996]" - This mean she actively helped Pilkey edit the book, right? WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
1. Cynthia Rylant did NOT help edit his books. This is another mistake in reporting. She proofread some of his books. Other people who have looked over his books have never, ever been mentioned. Here is a blatant case of another author or illustrator taking credit for Pilkey's independent work. It seems people want to take credit for doing spellcheck or slightly moving artwork over one space and then have their names attached to actually doing the art or helping with the editing and writing. This happens frequently to Dav Pilkey because he happens to be very kind to the people he encounters. If you correct a word that is misspelled or change minor grammatical errors, I don't think that counts as editing. This is called proofreading. If she influenced the story or changed the story or made the story better, this is called editing. Pilkey stated he was frequently misquoted and frequently misrepresented but it was because he wasn't very well known at the time and many of the reporters were sloppy in checking their story. 2. Same as above. 3. True but then you have to give credit to her cat not to her. If you are going to mention people who have actually influenced Pilkey's work, Rylant is not important. I think you should have mentioned his principal who was based on Mr. Krupp or his neighbor, who is the Paperboy (which won the Caldecott Honor). 4. NOT true. He made a card for her based on Dragon. She did NOT inspire the character of Dragon or Dragon's Halloween.
She happened to be in his life at the time his career took off with Captain Underpants. She had nothing to do with his career taking off. In fact, Pilkey has stated that she resented his success.
@ 2601:600:c67f:1590:d492:6973:d4e3:f53c: As per Wikipedia:Verifiability: "Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors." This means that published sources should be the basis of article content. It's possible that misquotations may happen from time to time, but without published information to the contrary I have nothing else to go on.
WhisperToMe ( talk) 01:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Suggest removing the lists of "Captain Underpants" and "Ricky Ricotta's Mighty Robot" series, but keeping the links to their respective series' main articles. This would prevent the respective redundant lists from getting out of sync with each other due to frequent new publications, which is currently the case with "Captain Underpants". Acwilson9 ( talk) 04:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)