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We know Daken is one of them. Promo image of dark Avengers with him facing wolverine we can tell by his 2 up one down claws i think its on mycup of joe weekly blog on myspace comics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.134.246 ( talk) 19:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
The image is a picture of deaken. Its not really up for debate if you want the article to be uninformative and not up to date be my guest. He is the only character in the MU with those claws and a bunch of other evidence, its just a logical evidence based assumption not just a fans conjecture.
The rest COULD be anybody although Its obvious who they are. but leave that till the release date to be certain just so false info isnt on there. but Deaken aint up for debate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.134.246 ( talk) 02:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Suggested change:
Bullseye, Daken, Moonstone, Venom have been announced as members of this team. Based on the promotional image, it would seem these former Thunderbolts will be used to pay a bit of a homage to the original idea behind the T-Bolts: villains disguised as heroes.
Bullseye = Hawkeye
Daken?? = Wolverine
Moonstone = Captain Marvel
Venom = Spider-Man
Another anti-hero is shown in the second cover:
Ares, God of War
Along with Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr) and the so-called Iron Patriot (perhaps Norman Osborn himself as he's taking over every role left by Tony Stark including his armored Avenger persona). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.43.181.210 ( talk) 05:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
"Captain Marvel" is most likely Ultra Girl, who took to wearing Carol Danver's original costume after graduating out of The Initiative. Bluecatcinema ( talk) 02:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Trying to answer in order to J Greb:
IIRC, both Newsarama and CBR (Daken wasn't mentioned, just the Thunderbolts). I don't have the urls readily at my fingertips buit it's easily verifiable.
It was also stated in those interviews that those characters (Moonstone, Bullseye, etc.) would start dressing as known heroes. Cut to the cover, what do you see? Known heroes with abilities similar to those of the former Thunderbolts. Based on those facts, I made a logical deduction, not a guess.
Oh well, I'll summarize saying all my very logical deductions (:p) are proving true. For example, what I said about Ultra Girl being far from likely being that Marvel on the promotional cover:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200904/AVNINIT023_cov.jpg
As you can see, Ultra Girl is in her classic costume on the cover of the Avengers: The Initiative April issue. :)
Joachim 200.80.230.107 ( talk) 18:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.80.230.107 ( talk) 18:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
People, lets just wait until the issues come out to post who is who. Until then, it is just speculation. I know everyone wants to be the first to post the roster, but lets wait. It isn't important yet. Timmyfitz161 ( talk) 03:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Soooo, I was right about every single thing. Even Norman being "Iron Patriot". What can I say? I'm that good. Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. :p :)
Joachim 200.80.230.107 ( talk) 15:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hahaha. No offense though, it was pretty easy to guess who was who. Still, you are funny as heck. Timmyfitz161 ( talk) 17:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Ahem. Please could someone post accurate breakdowns of the content of each issue in the main body of the article, as was done for Secret Invasion ? This is HUGELY useful for those of us who do not live in the States. I can live with my edits being removed, but not with the article not actualy containing details on the story concerned. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.130.110.58 ( talk) 21:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Several pages describe them as evil, but im not sure.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.217.101.221 ( talk) 18:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
In at least two places in the article/textboxes it says the series started January 2009 and in at least two places it says March 2009. So which is it? -- EzelMannen ( talk) 22:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
The issue-by-issue plot descriptions and highly overdetailed material of interest only to hardcore fans violates both the abovementioned Wikipedia guidelines and WikiProject Comics guidelines. It's inconceivable that three issues of Dark Avengers takes up as much room as three years of Fantastic Four, say. It needs to be reduced drastically in order to be up to Wikipedia standards. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 16:57, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I didn't think it was accurate to say that the Sentry was "now fully under the Void's control" at the start of the series. I would have said something like "rapidly losing control of himself and easily manipulated by Osborn into letting the Void take control", (which is more than a mouthful). Initially, the Sentry struggled (in a rather infantile way) with the moral uncertainty of what Osborn was having him do. It really wasn't until the start of Siege that he was so completely The Void that he basically admitted it to Osborn. But anyway, then I realized this was mainly a paragraph introducing the original team and explaining who they really were. There was no reason for long descriptions, and since Ares didn't have any kind of aside explaining why he was on the team, I figured I'd just go ahead and take the whole bit about Sentry's state of mind out. It should probably figure in to a later part of the article, or maybe later in the same paragraph. -- 50.11.49.92 ( talk) 04:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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We know Daken is one of them. Promo image of dark Avengers with him facing wolverine we can tell by his 2 up one down claws i think its on mycup of joe weekly blog on myspace comics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.134.246 ( talk) 19:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
The image is a picture of deaken. Its not really up for debate if you want the article to be uninformative and not up to date be my guest. He is the only character in the MU with those claws and a bunch of other evidence, its just a logical evidence based assumption not just a fans conjecture.
The rest COULD be anybody although Its obvious who they are. but leave that till the release date to be certain just so false info isnt on there. but Deaken aint up for debate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.134.246 ( talk) 02:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Suggested change:
Bullseye, Daken, Moonstone, Venom have been announced as members of this team. Based on the promotional image, it would seem these former Thunderbolts will be used to pay a bit of a homage to the original idea behind the T-Bolts: villains disguised as heroes.
Bullseye = Hawkeye
Daken?? = Wolverine
Moonstone = Captain Marvel
Venom = Spider-Man
Another anti-hero is shown in the second cover:
Ares, God of War
Along with Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr) and the so-called Iron Patriot (perhaps Norman Osborn himself as he's taking over every role left by Tony Stark including his armored Avenger persona). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.43.181.210 ( talk) 05:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
"Captain Marvel" is most likely Ultra Girl, who took to wearing Carol Danver's original costume after graduating out of The Initiative. Bluecatcinema ( talk) 02:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Trying to answer in order to J Greb:
IIRC, both Newsarama and CBR (Daken wasn't mentioned, just the Thunderbolts). I don't have the urls readily at my fingertips buit it's easily verifiable.
It was also stated in those interviews that those characters (Moonstone, Bullseye, etc.) would start dressing as known heroes. Cut to the cover, what do you see? Known heroes with abilities similar to those of the former Thunderbolts. Based on those facts, I made a logical deduction, not a guess.
Oh well, I'll summarize saying all my very logical deductions (:p) are proving true. For example, what I said about Ultra Girl being far from likely being that Marvel on the promotional cover:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200904/AVNINIT023_cov.jpg
As you can see, Ultra Girl is in her classic costume on the cover of the Avengers: The Initiative April issue. :)
Joachim 200.80.230.107 ( talk) 18:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.80.230.107 ( talk) 18:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
People, lets just wait until the issues come out to post who is who. Until then, it is just speculation. I know everyone wants to be the first to post the roster, but lets wait. It isn't important yet. Timmyfitz161 ( talk) 03:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Soooo, I was right about every single thing. Even Norman being "Iron Patriot". What can I say? I'm that good. Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. :p :)
Joachim 200.80.230.107 ( talk) 15:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hahaha. No offense though, it was pretty easy to guess who was who. Still, you are funny as heck. Timmyfitz161 ( talk) 17:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Ahem. Please could someone post accurate breakdowns of the content of each issue in the main body of the article, as was done for Secret Invasion ? This is HUGELY useful for those of us who do not live in the States. I can live with my edits being removed, but not with the article not actualy containing details on the story concerned. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.130.110.58 ( talk) 21:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Several pages describe them as evil, but im not sure.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.217.101.221 ( talk) 18:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
In at least two places in the article/textboxes it says the series started January 2009 and in at least two places it says March 2009. So which is it? -- EzelMannen ( talk) 22:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
The issue-by-issue plot descriptions and highly overdetailed material of interest only to hardcore fans violates both the abovementioned Wikipedia guidelines and WikiProject Comics guidelines. It's inconceivable that three issues of Dark Avengers takes up as much room as three years of Fantastic Four, say. It needs to be reduced drastically in order to be up to Wikipedia standards. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 16:57, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I didn't think it was accurate to say that the Sentry was "now fully under the Void's control" at the start of the series. I would have said something like "rapidly losing control of himself and easily manipulated by Osborn into letting the Void take control", (which is more than a mouthful). Initially, the Sentry struggled (in a rather infantile way) with the moral uncertainty of what Osborn was having him do. It really wasn't until the start of Siege that he was so completely The Void that he basically admitted it to Osborn. But anyway, then I realized this was mainly a paragraph introducing the original team and explaining who they really were. There was no reason for long descriptions, and since Ares didn't have any kind of aside explaining why he was on the team, I figured I'd just go ahead and take the whole bit about Sentry's state of mind out. It should probably figure in to a later part of the article, or maybe later in the same paragraph. -- 50.11.49.92 ( talk) 04:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC)