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Hi, I have read this article about Persian dancing ( Persian dance) As an Iranian person, I have to say this information provided by this famous web site, needs to be improved to change. Not all the information on this subject about Persian dancing is correct. Here are comments about the information provided in this article:
1. "Although often compared to Arabic dance," I cannot see why this has to be information for some one who does not know anything at all about Persian dancing! I mean, why does Persian dancing have to be compared with Arabic dancing? This objection goes back to the definition of encyclopedia!! If it was written that Persian dancing can be by some people compared as Arabic people is still better than saying "Although often compared to Arabic dance."
2. In the second paragraph, "often of bandari style" is a wrong example of Persian dancing. I mean the word 'often' should not been used at all. When I read this and put my feet in the shoes of a person who does not knows some about Persian dancing, he or she might think that this dancing is 'often' performed with 'bandari' style! No, it is not correct. Persian dancing always has many kinds of styles as it has been listed at the bottom of the article.
3. "However, this style is generally substantially less sensual in both manner of movement and in facial expression." In this sentence, I feel a sense of being bias used by the writer of this article. Whose perception is correct, the one who thinks the style is less sensual or people who just enjoy dancing in that style?! This is not a fair information is a well-known encyclopedia.
4. "where everyone will sit in a circle (especially on rugs)..." Let me tell you something, please! Even though is Persian dancing done in that way on a rug, but also it can be performed on Persian carpet! My point is that the size of a Persian rug and Persian carpet are not the say, but it is possible to dance on a Persian carpet, too. If someone knows the differences between a Persian carpet and a Persian rug, then he or she would think that this dancing is done only on Persian rug, and not on Persian carpet!
5. "sometimes accompanied by a Persian drummer playing bandari beats." Again, Persian music is not limited in bandari music at all. If somebody does know about Persian music, he or she would think most of the time Persian dancing is performed by bandari music, not the other styles. And if someone does not know anything about Persian music, and find out that bandari is the music used for Persian dancing, then there is misrepresentation of this dancing.
I hope I could explain my points, and this article cold be improved to explain more general picture of this nice dancing that being biased by a writer or writers!!!
Thank you
Vahdat ( talk · contribs) 11:17, 9 August 2007
I did some extensive editing of this page in the last few days (despite a current wikipedia brewer bug, which required lots of saving/sorry about that) and I cited more than 7 sources for this article so I felt it was appropriate to remove the tag dated Sept 2013 needs inline citation. The article still needs a lot of help, mostly info on contemporary Iranian dance is missing. Jooojay ( talk) 07:28, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Why is it called Persian dance when it's about Iranian dances? Do the people which wrote this article originally not have a basic knowledge that Iran is not a Persian state but rather an Iranian state? Persians are one of the Iranians. KhakePakeVatan ( talk) 08:45, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Wouldn't "Dance in Iran" be better English (than the plural form)? It's a bit more general, and sounds less like a list of dances. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 10:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed — Amakuru ( talk) 15:37, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Dances in Iran → Iranian dance – Makes sense to move this to the collective noun 'dance', modified by its ethnic adjectival component, common to the likes of Armenian dance. Iskandar323 ( talk) 11:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 17:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 02:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, I have read this article about Persian dancing ( Persian dance) As an Iranian person, I have to say this information provided by this famous web site, needs to be improved to change. Not all the information on this subject about Persian dancing is correct. Here are comments about the information provided in this article:
1. "Although often compared to Arabic dance," I cannot see why this has to be information for some one who does not know anything at all about Persian dancing! I mean, why does Persian dancing have to be compared with Arabic dancing? This objection goes back to the definition of encyclopedia!! If it was written that Persian dancing can be by some people compared as Arabic people is still better than saying "Although often compared to Arabic dance."
2. In the second paragraph, "often of bandari style" is a wrong example of Persian dancing. I mean the word 'often' should not been used at all. When I read this and put my feet in the shoes of a person who does not knows some about Persian dancing, he or she might think that this dancing is 'often' performed with 'bandari' style! No, it is not correct. Persian dancing always has many kinds of styles as it has been listed at the bottom of the article.
3. "However, this style is generally substantially less sensual in both manner of movement and in facial expression." In this sentence, I feel a sense of being bias used by the writer of this article. Whose perception is correct, the one who thinks the style is less sensual or people who just enjoy dancing in that style?! This is not a fair information is a well-known encyclopedia.
4. "where everyone will sit in a circle (especially on rugs)..." Let me tell you something, please! Even though is Persian dancing done in that way on a rug, but also it can be performed on Persian carpet! My point is that the size of a Persian rug and Persian carpet are not the say, but it is possible to dance on a Persian carpet, too. If someone knows the differences between a Persian carpet and a Persian rug, then he or she would think that this dancing is done only on Persian rug, and not on Persian carpet!
5. "sometimes accompanied by a Persian drummer playing bandari beats." Again, Persian music is not limited in bandari music at all. If somebody does know about Persian music, he or she would think most of the time Persian dancing is performed by bandari music, not the other styles. And if someone does not know anything about Persian music, and find out that bandari is the music used for Persian dancing, then there is misrepresentation of this dancing.
I hope I could explain my points, and this article cold be improved to explain more general picture of this nice dancing that being biased by a writer or writers!!!
Thank you
Vahdat ( talk · contribs) 11:17, 9 August 2007
I did some extensive editing of this page in the last few days (despite a current wikipedia brewer bug, which required lots of saving/sorry about that) and I cited more than 7 sources for this article so I felt it was appropriate to remove the tag dated Sept 2013 needs inline citation. The article still needs a lot of help, mostly info on contemporary Iranian dance is missing. Jooojay ( talk) 07:28, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Why is it called Persian dance when it's about Iranian dances? Do the people which wrote this article originally not have a basic knowledge that Iran is not a Persian state but rather an Iranian state? Persians are one of the Iranians. KhakePakeVatan ( talk) 08:45, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Wouldn't "Dance in Iran" be better English (than the plural form)? It's a bit more general, and sounds less like a list of dances. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 10:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed — Amakuru ( talk) 15:37, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Dances in Iran → Iranian dance – Makes sense to move this to the collective noun 'dance', modified by its ethnic adjectival component, common to the likes of Armenian dance. Iskandar323 ( talk) 11:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 17:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 02:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)