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Hello Possums!!! Barry Humphries, Australian comedian, born on February 17, 1934; as Dame Edna Everage
I'm on my little "Tourette" around North America … I'm loving my tour and it's such a relief that I fired my producer Barry Humphries. It's a spooky feeling finishing a week's work on stage, to find I have considerably more than 5% of the takings in my purse. That man had his hand in the till up to the armpit! Dame Edna Everage
There's no doubt about it, Beryl makes a lovely sponge finger. Dame Edna Everage
... really go down market ... buy Australian. Barry Humphries, Australian comedian, born on February 17, 1934; as Sir Les Patterson
Australia is an outdoor country. People only go indoors to use the toilet, and that's only a recent development. Barry Humphries, Australian comedian, born on February 17, 1934
There is perhaps, no more dangerous man in the world than the man with the sensibilities of an artist but without creative talent. With luck such men make wonderful theatrical impresarios and interior decorators, or else they become mass murderers or critics. Barry Humphries
My mother used to say that there are no strangers, only friends you haven't met yet. She's now in a maximum security twilight home in Australia. Barry Humphries
My parents were very pleased that I was in the army. The fact that I hated it somehow pleased them even more. Barry Humphries
New Zealand is a country of thirty thousand million sheep, three million of whom think they are human. Barry Humphries
To live in Australia permanently is rather like going to a party and dancing all night with one’s mother. Barry Humphries
I still seem to shock people even though I look terribly respectable now in my old age ... I think what I do is encourage people to look at Australia critically and with affection and humour, which is what all comedians should do. Barry Humphries
Disguising myself as different characters and I had a whole box of dressing up clothes ... Red Indian, sailor suit, Chinese costume and I was very spoiled in that way ... I also found that entertaining people gave me a great feeling of release, making people laugh was a very good way of befriending them. People couldn't hit you could they if they were laughing. Barry Humphries
I'm very lucky to do a job that makes me happy and seems to give a lot of people pleasure because when you laugh you know you use muscles that you don't use in any other way and so it's very good for you when you laugh. I like to think that doctors send people to my shows. Barry Humphries
Oh, I was down by Manly Pier Drinking tubes of ice-cold beer With a bucket full of prawns upon me knee. But when I'd swallowed the last prawn I had a technicolour yawn And I chundered in the old Pacific sea. Barry Humphries; (Chunder in) The Old Pacific Sea), early 1960s song
Merged with Barry Humphries? Objections? Mandel 12:10, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
I think I would prefer not to have this merged with Barry Humphreys. But what I came here was to suggest was that perhaps it isn't correct to have a ficticious character in the 'Australian people' category. Mintguy (T) 10:26, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I certainly don't think the page should be merged with Barry Humphries, after all, many fictional characters have pages - just see
Homer Simpson, and I have never even seen him in the flesh. -
Matthew238 22:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Anyone who would dare consider merging Dame Edna with Barry Humphries will receive a complimentary photo of my pet Atrax Robustus.-- Kinopanorama widescreen 11:21, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Dame Edna should definitely have her own page. We believe in her, don't we? Is there any other widely-known persona/alter-ego that has had a continuing existence for so many years? I can't think of one. I suspect that Dame Edna is in a class of her own, Possums!
-- Amandajm 10:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
-- TEHodson 09:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:30, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that Dame Edna introduced Sir Paul McCartney at the concert to celebrate the Golden Jubilee of Elizabeth II? Confusing Manifestation 16:30, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Jimp ( talk · contribs) argues in an edit summary (of the article) that
No, it doesn't go without saying.
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This article reads like something out of Dame Edna's autobiography. It needs to be reworked so that it reads more like an encyclopaedia article. Exploding Boy 07:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
No, Toots, this is the wrong way around. Dame Edna has been wearing OTT glasses ever since she first appeared in 1955. Elton John has worn Dame Edna style glasses.
-- Amandajm 10:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
There's very little about her act in the article, I notice. In particular, there is not one single mention of possums and not a single gladiolus. I'm not entirely sure where to put such things, though. (This caused another editor to suspect me of vandalism when I made a Dame Edna reference at the opossum talk page; I'd had no idea until yesterday that she was referring to Australian possums, not American opossums.) -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 16:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering why this article is part of the LGBT studies, as mentioned by the tag at the top of this article, the character Dame Edna isn't gay (had a husband, as mentioned) - although according to the article her sons are (despite her not knowing it), and Barry Humphries doesn't appear to be gay per his article (mentions wife and kids (yes I know that doesn't exclude someone from being gay), nor is there a similar tag on his article). The best I could figure is that Edna is a "gay icon" per earlier discussion, but what does that mean exactly? That she's popular with LGBT people? I'm sure a lot of people qualify as that (for example, it seems to be mentioned frequently (though I don't know how true it is) that Barbara Streisand is popular with gay males, yet her talk page don't have a "gay icon" discussion, nor an "LGBT Studies" icon as well. So just wondering where it comes from? -- Canuckguy 12:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
The article says that so far only her daughter Valmai has been seen. But, I'm sure her mother appeared on screen with her at least once on the BBC. I think it was either at the Millennium, but it could have been Sydney Olympics. Anyone else remember? 89.241.153.57 20:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Since Dame Edan Everage has not been awared either the honour Dame of the Order of Australia (AD) nor been made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE), why do these postnominals follow her name in the text inline for this article? This is not only inaccurate information, it's deliberately misleading (a fictional character can't win these honours) and doesn't fit in with any of Wikipedia's standards. I know they make the article FUN, but that's not what Wikipedia is all about. I suggest the postnominals be removed. Thoughts? comments? Blake the bookbinder 21:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Factual error: In that section "On Wednesday 17 December 2006, Dame Edna appeared as a guest panellist on the ABC TV Show Spicks and Specks where she sang with presenter Adam Hills." contains an error. Either the day or date is wrong. 17 December 2006 was a Sunday. As I live in Texas, I'm not familiar with Australian TV schedules. RevZafod ( talk) 00:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree there is an error, because the Spicks and Specks season usually ends in early November and the show has always been on Wednesdays. However, every year there is a Christmas special aired in December. I don't know what that date was in 2006 but last year (2008) it aired on a Sunday. dlh1989 09:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Intro is not comprehensive or accurate. It ignores key encyclopedic content such as when and where the character was first performed and is Anglo-centric, suggesting the character "came into its own" under Thatcher - in fact Edna rose to prominence in satirising Robert Menzies' and Gough Whitlam's Australia and pre-Thatcherite Britain, succeeding on stage and screen before Thatcher was anywhere near No.10.
The intro also lacks Humphries' nuance: Edna was born and remains in essence a parody of Melbourne suburbia - not Australian suburbia (she looks down on Sydney as being "common") and the intro seems to suggest that Humphries only targets consumerism and Thatcherism (associated with "the right") - but in fact he also critiques the artistic pretences of Gough Whitlam's Australia and champagne socialist tendencies of Cool Britannia and the modern "left". The line about @ignorant@ etc Austraians is POV and not accurate: apart from Humphries 1950s Australian suburbia produced many liminaries Germaine Greer, Clive James, Geoffrey Robertson, and Robert Hughes who have been immensley influential in Britain and elsewhere. In Humphries own words, Edna is critical critical yet affectionate.
The line about @La Dame aux Gladiolas is totally rendundant as Edna has appeared in multiple documentaries, so why single out one?
Suggest: delete Thatcher, and bring in specific factual references which cover whole career milestones in Oz/UK and USA. Ozhistory ( talk) 09:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Would you like the first sentence or two to state that Edna debuted in Melbourne in 1955? If so, we'll need more than that. I'll go through Lahr's book for the date if you want me to, and what the show was. We'll need a citation for something that obscure (from the Wiki p.o.v.). Do you want me to add the show noted above, or are you going to do it? It should go into the Performances section in its proper chronology. I think that section is too long already (what with every Leno appearance, etc.) but I haven't cut it because I've also added things (like how her shows were seen here in the U.S.) so I don't want to cut anyone else's favorite factoids. I've asked that the article now be reviewed for GA status, so they'll have suggestions if they think it needs to be changed more. If you add other stuff to the intro, be sure to use citations. If you still want to do a major re-write, can we talk first? Maybe wait to see what the review says? It's great to be talking instead of arguing! It is hard not to be propietory about an article one has worked so hard on, but I'm doing my best. By the way, I'm dying to put in something she said in her "My first last tour" shows: that she plans to adopt an African baby from the same country where Madonna shops for her loved ones! But I can't figure out how to work it in. She said it again on The View in 2010. People gasped! I met B.H. on that "final" tour, and had a nice chat. My brother played Norm on stage with her in 2004 (we were in the front row, right in the Danger Zone). I reviewed the DVD sets on Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Dame-Edna-Experience-Complete-Collection/dp/B0002J4ZZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1287567986&sr=1-1 and here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A18C1PCR8WUASTie=UTF8&display=public&sort_by=MostRecentReview&page=4. Talk to you tomorrow. -- TEHodson 09:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
The second paragraph of the introduction contains incredibly un-neutral POV statements regarding Thatcherism. The attribution of remarks such as "brutal" is fine, but only if the piece is written in a way that makes it clear it is an opinion rather than a fact! If this was a point of view held by BH (and which then influenced his act) then this should be attributed to him. -- 621PWC ( talk) 21:28, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Oz, I have her debut on 19 Dec 1955, per Humphries to John Lahr. Humphries says she had no specs, no make-up, no wig, just his own brown hair combed down. Is this what you have? (p.82, Lahr)-- TEHodson 10:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC) -- TEHodson 10:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi to the anonymous editor who created the new section, Inspiration to others. The references you cited do not support the suggestion that these comics were in any way inspired by Dame Edna. If you have a source where the comics themselves are stating that Dame Edna was an inspiration to them, that would satisfy the citation requirement. Other people saying that is not enough, but these references either didn't mention Dame Edna at all (the Mail online page was just a bunch of mini-articles about dozens of people), or they just grouped her in with cross-dressers. Dame Edna is, first of all, not a transvestite character in the usual sense of the word, but in any case, someone has to say they were inspired to create their own character as a result of exposure to Edna in order for the section to exisit. Sorry. The Hero Icon section also has to be properly cited and in the right place. Maybe just a sentence about Humphries being inspired by Danny LaRue someplace else, but properly cited.-- TEHodson 00:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
The details of the photo of "Dame Edna at the Wedding of Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, and Catherine Middleton" says it was taken on 28 April 2011 at 14:31. The wedding was on the following day, 29 April, at 11:00. The un-cropped version of the photo [ [1]] shows Edna outside a building (not inside Westminster Abbey), speaking to a camera (perhaps some of the reporting mentioned in the article?). This is clearly not Dame Edna at the wedding: it's the wrong day and the wrong location. How about something more credible, like "Dame Edna reporting on the Wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton, April 2011". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.82.183 ( talk) 20:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Re this:
According to one author, Edna came into her own during the 1980s when the policies of Thatcherism -- and what he described as the "vindictive style of the times"-- allowed Dame Edna to sharpen her observations accordingly.[14] Lahr wrote that Edna took Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's "seemingly hypocritical motto" of "caring and compassion" for others and turned it on its head, Edna became the voice of Humphries' outrage. [14][dubious – discuss][vague]
This makes Humphries and Edna look like left wingers. They most certainly are NOT. Humphries is one of the most right-wing of all Australian / British entertainers. I remember an TV "interview" with Edna during Thatcher's reign, in which Thatcher was criticised. Edna actually leapt out of character (very rare) and noted that feminists had been calling for more female politicians, and now that they had a most successful female Prime Minister, did nothing but criticize her. She added something like: "I suppose you are surprised to hear me speak like this, but there it is."
I have NEVER heard Humphries or Edna say a word in support of any underdogs. Recently, he came to Australia, and called us all "common", a word that no liberal or left winger would ever use. The views in the quote above are diamatrically opposite to what Humphries believes and occasionally promotes. (But he IS a genius, and hilariously funny, no doubt about that. I've seen just about every stage show he's ever done.) Myles325a ( talk) 04:53, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
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Seems to be some error on this page, claiming that "Dame Edna is a character played by Barry Humphries" ? - Bizarre. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 05:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hello Possums!!! Barry Humphries, Australian comedian, born on February 17, 1934; as Dame Edna Everage
I'm on my little "Tourette" around North America … I'm loving my tour and it's such a relief that I fired my producer Barry Humphries. It's a spooky feeling finishing a week's work on stage, to find I have considerably more than 5% of the takings in my purse. That man had his hand in the till up to the armpit! Dame Edna Everage
There's no doubt about it, Beryl makes a lovely sponge finger. Dame Edna Everage
... really go down market ... buy Australian. Barry Humphries, Australian comedian, born on February 17, 1934; as Sir Les Patterson
Australia is an outdoor country. People only go indoors to use the toilet, and that's only a recent development. Barry Humphries, Australian comedian, born on February 17, 1934
There is perhaps, no more dangerous man in the world than the man with the sensibilities of an artist but without creative talent. With luck such men make wonderful theatrical impresarios and interior decorators, or else they become mass murderers or critics. Barry Humphries
My mother used to say that there are no strangers, only friends you haven't met yet. She's now in a maximum security twilight home in Australia. Barry Humphries
My parents were very pleased that I was in the army. The fact that I hated it somehow pleased them even more. Barry Humphries
New Zealand is a country of thirty thousand million sheep, three million of whom think they are human. Barry Humphries
To live in Australia permanently is rather like going to a party and dancing all night with one’s mother. Barry Humphries
I still seem to shock people even though I look terribly respectable now in my old age ... I think what I do is encourage people to look at Australia critically and with affection and humour, which is what all comedians should do. Barry Humphries
Disguising myself as different characters and I had a whole box of dressing up clothes ... Red Indian, sailor suit, Chinese costume and I was very spoiled in that way ... I also found that entertaining people gave me a great feeling of release, making people laugh was a very good way of befriending them. People couldn't hit you could they if they were laughing. Barry Humphries
I'm very lucky to do a job that makes me happy and seems to give a lot of people pleasure because when you laugh you know you use muscles that you don't use in any other way and so it's very good for you when you laugh. I like to think that doctors send people to my shows. Barry Humphries
Oh, I was down by Manly Pier Drinking tubes of ice-cold beer With a bucket full of prawns upon me knee. But when I'd swallowed the last prawn I had a technicolour yawn And I chundered in the old Pacific sea. Barry Humphries; (Chunder in) The Old Pacific Sea), early 1960s song
Merged with Barry Humphries? Objections? Mandel 12:10, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
I think I would prefer not to have this merged with Barry Humphreys. But what I came here was to suggest was that perhaps it isn't correct to have a ficticious character in the 'Australian people' category. Mintguy (T) 10:26, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I certainly don't think the page should be merged with Barry Humphries, after all, many fictional characters have pages - just see
Homer Simpson, and I have never even seen him in the flesh. -
Matthew238 22:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Anyone who would dare consider merging Dame Edna with Barry Humphries will receive a complimentary photo of my pet Atrax Robustus.-- Kinopanorama widescreen 11:21, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Dame Edna should definitely have her own page. We believe in her, don't we? Is there any other widely-known persona/alter-ego that has had a continuing existence for so many years? I can't think of one. I suspect that Dame Edna is in a class of her own, Possums!
-- Amandajm 10:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
-- TEHodson 09:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:30, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that Dame Edna introduced Sir Paul McCartney at the concert to celebrate the Golden Jubilee of Elizabeth II? Confusing Manifestation 16:30, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Jimp ( talk · contribs) argues in an edit summary (of the article) that
No, it doesn't go without saying.
--
Jerzy•
t 12:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
-- Biggles 17:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
“ | For the English Wikipedia, while a nationally predominant form should be used, there is no preference among the major national varieties of English; none is more "correct" than any other. |
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“ | If there is a strong tie to a specific region/dialect, use that dialect. | ” |
“ | Dame Edna Everage is part of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. |
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This article reads like something out of Dame Edna's autobiography. It needs to be reworked so that it reads more like an encyclopaedia article. Exploding Boy 07:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
No, Toots, this is the wrong way around. Dame Edna has been wearing OTT glasses ever since she first appeared in 1955. Elton John has worn Dame Edna style glasses.
-- Amandajm 10:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
There's very little about her act in the article, I notice. In particular, there is not one single mention of possums and not a single gladiolus. I'm not entirely sure where to put such things, though. (This caused another editor to suspect me of vandalism when I made a Dame Edna reference at the opossum talk page; I'd had no idea until yesterday that she was referring to Australian possums, not American opossums.) -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 16:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering why this article is part of the LGBT studies, as mentioned by the tag at the top of this article, the character Dame Edna isn't gay (had a husband, as mentioned) - although according to the article her sons are (despite her not knowing it), and Barry Humphries doesn't appear to be gay per his article (mentions wife and kids (yes I know that doesn't exclude someone from being gay), nor is there a similar tag on his article). The best I could figure is that Edna is a "gay icon" per earlier discussion, but what does that mean exactly? That she's popular with LGBT people? I'm sure a lot of people qualify as that (for example, it seems to be mentioned frequently (though I don't know how true it is) that Barbara Streisand is popular with gay males, yet her talk page don't have a "gay icon" discussion, nor an "LGBT Studies" icon as well. So just wondering where it comes from? -- Canuckguy 12:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
The article says that so far only her daughter Valmai has been seen. But, I'm sure her mother appeared on screen with her at least once on the BBC. I think it was either at the Millennium, but it could have been Sydney Olympics. Anyone else remember? 89.241.153.57 20:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Since Dame Edan Everage has not been awared either the honour Dame of the Order of Australia (AD) nor been made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE), why do these postnominals follow her name in the text inline for this article? This is not only inaccurate information, it's deliberately misleading (a fictional character can't win these honours) and doesn't fit in with any of Wikipedia's standards. I know they make the article FUN, but that's not what Wikipedia is all about. I suggest the postnominals be removed. Thoughts? comments? Blake the bookbinder 21:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Factual error: In that section "On Wednesday 17 December 2006, Dame Edna appeared as a guest panellist on the ABC TV Show Spicks and Specks where she sang with presenter Adam Hills." contains an error. Either the day or date is wrong. 17 December 2006 was a Sunday. As I live in Texas, I'm not familiar with Australian TV schedules. RevZafod ( talk) 00:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree there is an error, because the Spicks and Specks season usually ends in early November and the show has always been on Wednesdays. However, every year there is a Christmas special aired in December. I don't know what that date was in 2006 but last year (2008) it aired on a Sunday. dlh1989 09:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Intro is not comprehensive or accurate. It ignores key encyclopedic content such as when and where the character was first performed and is Anglo-centric, suggesting the character "came into its own" under Thatcher - in fact Edna rose to prominence in satirising Robert Menzies' and Gough Whitlam's Australia and pre-Thatcherite Britain, succeeding on stage and screen before Thatcher was anywhere near No.10.
The intro also lacks Humphries' nuance: Edna was born and remains in essence a parody of Melbourne suburbia - not Australian suburbia (she looks down on Sydney as being "common") and the intro seems to suggest that Humphries only targets consumerism and Thatcherism (associated with "the right") - but in fact he also critiques the artistic pretences of Gough Whitlam's Australia and champagne socialist tendencies of Cool Britannia and the modern "left". The line about @ignorant@ etc Austraians is POV and not accurate: apart from Humphries 1950s Australian suburbia produced many liminaries Germaine Greer, Clive James, Geoffrey Robertson, and Robert Hughes who have been immensley influential in Britain and elsewhere. In Humphries own words, Edna is critical critical yet affectionate.
The line about @La Dame aux Gladiolas is totally rendundant as Edna has appeared in multiple documentaries, so why single out one?
Suggest: delete Thatcher, and bring in specific factual references which cover whole career milestones in Oz/UK and USA. Ozhistory ( talk) 09:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Would you like the first sentence or two to state that Edna debuted in Melbourne in 1955? If so, we'll need more than that. I'll go through Lahr's book for the date if you want me to, and what the show was. We'll need a citation for something that obscure (from the Wiki p.o.v.). Do you want me to add the show noted above, or are you going to do it? It should go into the Performances section in its proper chronology. I think that section is too long already (what with every Leno appearance, etc.) but I haven't cut it because I've also added things (like how her shows were seen here in the U.S.) so I don't want to cut anyone else's favorite factoids. I've asked that the article now be reviewed for GA status, so they'll have suggestions if they think it needs to be changed more. If you add other stuff to the intro, be sure to use citations. If you still want to do a major re-write, can we talk first? Maybe wait to see what the review says? It's great to be talking instead of arguing! It is hard not to be propietory about an article one has worked so hard on, but I'm doing my best. By the way, I'm dying to put in something she said in her "My first last tour" shows: that she plans to adopt an African baby from the same country where Madonna shops for her loved ones! But I can't figure out how to work it in. She said it again on The View in 2010. People gasped! I met B.H. on that "final" tour, and had a nice chat. My brother played Norm on stage with her in 2004 (we were in the front row, right in the Danger Zone). I reviewed the DVD sets on Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Dame-Edna-Experience-Complete-Collection/dp/B0002J4ZZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1287567986&sr=1-1 and here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A18C1PCR8WUASTie=UTF8&display=public&sort_by=MostRecentReview&page=4. Talk to you tomorrow. -- TEHodson 09:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
The second paragraph of the introduction contains incredibly un-neutral POV statements regarding Thatcherism. The attribution of remarks such as "brutal" is fine, but only if the piece is written in a way that makes it clear it is an opinion rather than a fact! If this was a point of view held by BH (and which then influenced his act) then this should be attributed to him. -- 621PWC ( talk) 21:28, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Oz, I have her debut on 19 Dec 1955, per Humphries to John Lahr. Humphries says she had no specs, no make-up, no wig, just his own brown hair combed down. Is this what you have? (p.82, Lahr)-- TEHodson 10:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC) -- TEHodson 10:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi to the anonymous editor who created the new section, Inspiration to others. The references you cited do not support the suggestion that these comics were in any way inspired by Dame Edna. If you have a source where the comics themselves are stating that Dame Edna was an inspiration to them, that would satisfy the citation requirement. Other people saying that is not enough, but these references either didn't mention Dame Edna at all (the Mail online page was just a bunch of mini-articles about dozens of people), or they just grouped her in with cross-dressers. Dame Edna is, first of all, not a transvestite character in the usual sense of the word, but in any case, someone has to say they were inspired to create their own character as a result of exposure to Edna in order for the section to exisit. Sorry. The Hero Icon section also has to be properly cited and in the right place. Maybe just a sentence about Humphries being inspired by Danny LaRue someplace else, but properly cited.-- TEHodson 00:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
The details of the photo of "Dame Edna at the Wedding of Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, and Catherine Middleton" says it was taken on 28 April 2011 at 14:31. The wedding was on the following day, 29 April, at 11:00. The un-cropped version of the photo [ [1]] shows Edna outside a building (not inside Westminster Abbey), speaking to a camera (perhaps some of the reporting mentioned in the article?). This is clearly not Dame Edna at the wedding: it's the wrong day and the wrong location. How about something more credible, like "Dame Edna reporting on the Wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton, April 2011". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.82.183 ( talk) 20:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Re this:
According to one author, Edna came into her own during the 1980s when the policies of Thatcherism -- and what he described as the "vindictive style of the times"-- allowed Dame Edna to sharpen her observations accordingly.[14] Lahr wrote that Edna took Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's "seemingly hypocritical motto" of "caring and compassion" for others and turned it on its head, Edna became the voice of Humphries' outrage. [14][dubious – discuss][vague]
This makes Humphries and Edna look like left wingers. They most certainly are NOT. Humphries is one of the most right-wing of all Australian / British entertainers. I remember an TV "interview" with Edna during Thatcher's reign, in which Thatcher was criticised. Edna actually leapt out of character (very rare) and noted that feminists had been calling for more female politicians, and now that they had a most successful female Prime Minister, did nothing but criticize her. She added something like: "I suppose you are surprised to hear me speak like this, but there it is."
I have NEVER heard Humphries or Edna say a word in support of any underdogs. Recently, he came to Australia, and called us all "common", a word that no liberal or left winger would ever use. The views in the quote above are diamatrically opposite to what Humphries believes and occasionally promotes. (But he IS a genius, and hilariously funny, no doubt about that. I've seen just about every stage show he's ever done.) Myles325a ( talk) 04:53, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
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Seems to be some error on this page, claiming that "Dame Edna is a character played by Barry Humphries" ? - Bizarre. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 05:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)