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The language discussing DART's 2003 operating budget seems somewhat biased. It appears to have been inserted by an anti-transit contributor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.105.111.162 ( talk) 19:46, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
It appears that another anonymous contributor (or possibly the same one, with a different IP address) has inserted the misleading 2003 statistics again. Not satisfied with adding negative information, the person proceeded to remove positive information. This is POV masquerading as "fair and balanced" reporting. Reverted: I no longer fear the axe. -- Robertb-dc 15:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Since when are 'income and expenses' as compiled by the National Transit Database an 'anti-transit' bias? Their inclusion adds pertinent facts. The problem with Wiki-pedia. Typically written by people with agendas who include only facts (or less-than-facts) to support what they think is a good idea and start editing out things posted by others.
People researching transit might like to know there is such a thing as the National Transit Database and just how much money gets spent on any particular project. If that is 'slanted' then I guess I am too.
The data you selectively removed includes the last 10 years, not just 2003. But why let the facts get in the way of a good ideology? LOL.
One other suggestion: if you're going to decry Wikipedia's "problems", perhaps you should consider getting out from behind your
IP address and creating an account? --
Robertb-dc
19:17, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps I do not care enough about Wikipedia to invest any more time than this last post. A friend pointed this site out to me claiming it was a free online encylopedia maintained by the public. It turns out it is just a blog in disguise to try to legitimize opinions and rantings from the usual Internet clowns. Too bad.
The identifying colors for the rail extensions have changed. The Northwest/Southeast line will now be Green. The Irving line will be orange. The TRE will no longer be shown as a green line on the map. Instead it will be dark blue (the same as it is on public timetables).
This information has not yet been published anywhere that I am aware of. The only verification I can provide is for you to do a whois search on my IP address 198.51.223.126 22:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the line colors again. You can see a new map on the DART web site with these line colors. http://www.dart.org/inmotion/winter06/4.htm I removed the reference to the TRE being represented by a green line on DART maps because I cannot prove that it will be navy blue on future maps. This isn't on any map on the DART web site yet.
I've changed the date for the Irving line opening which will be December, 2011. http://www.dart.org/DARTExpansionDates.pdf
One final change is that the northwest line will not directly go to Love Field so I changed the wording to read "operate near Love Field airport" 198.51.223.126 19:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
The links on the Green Line map need to be fixed to point to the correct station articles. Also, the Orange line needs to be created and extended. Dfwcre8tive ( talk) 17:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I would like to see a map of the light rail system (with current and soon-to-be-built routes) and the current Trinity Railway Express line with this article. If one can be drawn, I'm sure I'd like to see it. MattFisher 02:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Done and uploaded.-- Bchan 10:36, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Incorrect map uploaded - DART
I am currently in the process of revising and correcting the System Map. SM V2.0 will be posted in a day or two. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Bchan 18:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
The citations of crude annual operating losses are definitely biased without some context. Key indicators for comparisons between cities might be "annual transit operating expenditure per capita" and "annual transit operating subsidy per capita."
By adjusting for inflation, it is also possible to demonstrate significant reduction in unit operating cost (per passenger, per passenger-mile) following introduction of rail service.
In fact, it is also possible to adjust for differences in labor costs between cities. Simply use employee hours per some measure, such as passenger-miles.
All of the figures above can be easily calculated using FTA data. Ldemery 23:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Robertb-dc, please specifically list what about the criticism of DART section you feel is vandalism... instead of just labeling it that without cause and then reverting the section to your edit. TexasDawg 00:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
TexasDawg, you added this paragraph:
The Dallas Morning News data is very interesting. I suggest you use it forcefully and often in online forums where your opinions about taxpayer subsidies of public transportation can be discussed. However, when you say "Critics of DART believe", you're currently saying "TexasDawg believes". Find a source or leave it out.
By the way, the benchmark federal mileage reimbursement, a number intended to take into account both fuel costs and vehicle maintenance expenses, is currently 44.5 cents per mile [2]. The route in question is about 30 miles long, so each rider who takes the full trip (or pair of riders, one from Westmoreland to Downtown and another from Downtown to Parker Road) is worth $13.35. Just 25 riders at that mileage reimbursement rate would cost $333.75 -- well over the $280 cost of running the train. If the train is full -- seating capacity 72 in each car for a total of 144 [3] -- then the investment of $280 pays back $1,922. That's comparable to a trans-oceanic commerical plane flight. -- Robertb-dc 18:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The rail system map shows the LBJ/Central station on the Red Line twice. There is only one LBJ/Central station, and it's the one between Forest Lane and Spring Valley. The station between Arapaho Center and the Bush Turnpike is Gatalyn Park. 204.0.197.190 20:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
On the 10th anniversary of DART Rail, I suppose it's fitting that TexasDawg should find something to complain about. He's added a pointless whine about suburbs that don't have rail. Rather than remove the clearly inflammatory and NPOV content (and risk yet another revert war), I'll add some blindingly obvious facts -- that these cities are scheduled for rail by 2010 (Rowlett may be a bit longer). -- Robertb-dc 13:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
The DTS article is pretty tiny, though it has a good image and good links. I think it should be part of the DART article's History section, similar to how CITRAN/SURTRAN is part of the history of The T. Any objections? See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for details of the process: two weeks with consensus or four weeks if nobody cares either way. -- Robertb-dc 18:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Concur. It makes no sense to have a stub article when it can be merged into another, more comprehensive one. Quidam65 14:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The current page lists the current rail system as phase one and the current expansion as phase 2. Wasn't the 20 mile starter system phase one, the expansions to Garland, Richardson and Plano phase 2 and the current expansion phase 3? ---- FoUTASportscaster 14:16, 07 October 2006
I noticed that two additions were made to the Executive Directors list. That's fine and dandy, but I'm a bit suspicious... because "Maurice M Carter" was added by a user named "M2Carter", and this is his only edit ever. Was there ever a M. M. Carter on the DART board, or is this just a creative bit of faux history added by a clever high schooler? I've tagged the section with "unreferenced" in hopes that the real MMCarter will Please Stand Up. -- Robertb-dc 19:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have current rush-hour pictures of DART light rail vehicles? The present shots of 90% empty one-car trains don't show the real usefulness of DART light rail. One photo of a four-car train packed full of people who paid $2.50 to ride is worth a thousand kilobytes of TexasDawg's ranting about government funded transit... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.187.78.4 ( talk) 01:51, March 15, 2007 (UTC)
Is there any information on the safety of actually riding DART? What about the operators? I have heard from many of the operators of the problems they have on their routes and how unsafe it is for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicam ( talk • contribs) 09:16, June 17, 2007 (UTC)
I'll give the person, operating under the IP address of 72.54.93.13, one week to attribute his/her facts before I delete them. I have seen nothing on anywhere that gives those kind of numbers and this seems like typical anti-rail rhetoric.---- FoUTASportscaster 05:43, March 29, 2007 (UTC)
It was I who posted the data, straight from the 2005 NTD. If I were more adept at using Wikipedia, I would have added the footnote. In that report DART outlayed $202,794,312 in operating costs on the buses, $16,494,441 on capital bus outlays, and carried 53,394,331 unlinked passenger trips. That equates to a fully loaded cost of $4.11 per passenger trip. For light rail the numbers are $69,273,579 ops, $116,729,227 capital, carrying 17,487,057 trips. That is a cost per passenger of $10.64. And while this may appear to you as "anti-transit" to you, it is the most basic statisitc of the transit industry in which I have worked for years. Passengers is the most frequently used statistic in quantifying benefit in the industry, and thus the fully-loaded cost per passenger does offer insight in the benefit/cost ratio of the service. And that ratio is in turn the most important indicator of all transportation planning, both roadway and transit. I apologize for pointing out what all transit planners secretly know.
I find it interesting that (a) it is strange that the first service type mentioned is not the most used and (b) others would delete relevant, factually verifiable information if it does not meet their interests.
There are some data pieces from the lightrailnow site-a site sponsored by the railcar industry-which are misleading but I will not remove because they are factually verifiable. I would appreciate the same consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfweckenmann ( talk • contribs) 16:55, May 1, 2007 (UTC)
Why are these templates being proposed for deletion?
For the New York City MTA lines there are articles for individual lines. Why not have the same for each individual line of Dallas. Dogru144 12:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
West Plano Transit Center is a small bus-only station located on 15th Creek Dr. west of Coit in Plano, Texas (U.S.A.). It is owned and operated by Dallas Area Rapid Transit, whose bus(es) mostly serve the Presbyterian Hospital within this transit center. It is one of the few DART transit centers outside the Dallas County area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guroadrunner ( talk • contribs) 08:33, June 30, 2007 (UTC)
How exactly did you get the light rail line color links like that? When you click on the "red" Red Line link, it takes you to the page. I clicked the edit button to see how it was done, but all I see is " Red Line". Any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XxTrillvillexX9 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, October 27, 2007 (UTC)
I really tried to create one " Template:METRO R ", but am not having too much luck. Any help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by XxTrillvillexX9 ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
The article states that dart owns the cotton belt line from Carrollton all the way up to just south of Downtown plano station.
The current freight line runs just south of the Downtown Plano Station on the Red Line, but DART maps of the 2030 plan show the line will route to the nearby Bush Turnpike station, the nearest station to the south of downtown Plano.[11] The Cotton Belt line runs through Coppell between Carrollton and DFW Airport; although no station locations are included in the plan, the promise of a future station could entice Coppell into rejoining the agency.
I believe this is inaccurate, Dart owns the tracks from the Carrollton DGNO yard up to Whiterock//Renner junction just south of 190 in richardson. Beyond this junction the tracks are owned by the KCS, all the way to wylie along this line. I believe this should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.242.97 ( talk) 23:53, December 1, 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
There is no need to cite the State of Texas list for LRT miles. Houston has 7.5, DART has 45. Galveston has a small heritage streetcar line. Therefore, the 45 miles in Dallas makes it the largest in the state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FoUTASportscaster ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
How about changing the DART redirection page to a disambiguation page, as it can also refer to the Irish Dublin Area Rapid Transit? -- Tomcully ( talk) 23:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
This needs to be integrated into the article. WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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A map showing cities which are members, former members, eligible non-members, etc. would be helpful to readers. -- Beland ( talk) 05:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone object to me setting up automatic archiving for this page using MizaBot? Unless otherwise agreed, I would set it to archive threads that have been inactive for 30 days.-- Oneiros ( talk) 17:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I have been sitting on this start of a template. Any interest in helping me complete it? With proper colors it could be quite useful. User:Spectre9/DART_light_rail_system_map Spectre9 ( talk) 00:38, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I may try to snap one, but I thought I would put up a request for SLRV photos. These new trains have been in service for some time, but all the current light rail photos show the old trains. Sure, there are still old trains in service, however DART has announced that all trains are being converted to SLRV. Spectre9 ( talk) 21:47, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I wish I would have received this warning before it was too late...
My car was burglarized at the Jupiter/Forest station. This was a car that had an alarm and was not an easy target. This is a job that would have taken the criminals a substantial amount of time. An amount of time that should never had been allowed in broad daylight while I was at work.
What do the DART police actually do? Just issue citations? How's about protecting the fare-paying customers' most valuable asset and securing the parking lots. Don't think it'll happen to you; I felt the same - park at any DART station and I assure you it will.
Worse than getting my car vandalised and $4,000 worth of merchandise stolen is the fact that the DART police won't do anything to catch the thieves. This criminal behavior in the parking lots is almost applauded. It would seem the criminals are aware of this because they don't shy away from heists that span hours just feet away from the stop.
I rode DART to save money on gas and to be more environmentally conscious. The amount these burglars have cost me is exponentially greater than any money saved by taking the DART train.
Park at your own risk; I would recommend taking your car with you to work. There is absolutely NO security at these stations and I now fear for the well being of my car and to a greater extent my life (well I no longer fear because I drive to work). The security is best described as a joke and is a humiliating black eye for what should be a reliable safe mode of transportation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.96.192.34 ( talk) 15:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Suggesting that the DART Light Rail Section be split out into a new article, with a summary paragraph on the main DART page. With major expansion under way, DART Light Rail is going to be a significant topic on its own, and deserves a separate page. This article is growing too long anyway. Spectre9 ( talk) 20:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
You guys are missing a very important point of view on the criticism of DART, which in my personal opinion, provides the most logical point of view. His name is Yonah Freemark and he currently operates the blog: The Transport Politic.
Here are some good articles on the site:
For more on Dallas, refer to http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/category/places/dallas/ . ThisguyYEAH ( talk) 01:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
"The DART board in September 2012 agreed to extend Orange Line to Terminal A in DFW Airport by 2014." Time warp! 69.72.27.169 ( talk) 06:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
The language discussing DART's 2003 operating budget seems somewhat biased. It appears to have been inserted by an anti-transit contributor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.105.111.162 ( talk) 19:46, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
It appears that another anonymous contributor (or possibly the same one, with a different IP address) has inserted the misleading 2003 statistics again. Not satisfied with adding negative information, the person proceeded to remove positive information. This is POV masquerading as "fair and balanced" reporting. Reverted: I no longer fear the axe. -- Robertb-dc 15:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Since when are 'income and expenses' as compiled by the National Transit Database an 'anti-transit' bias? Their inclusion adds pertinent facts. The problem with Wiki-pedia. Typically written by people with agendas who include only facts (or less-than-facts) to support what they think is a good idea and start editing out things posted by others.
People researching transit might like to know there is such a thing as the National Transit Database and just how much money gets spent on any particular project. If that is 'slanted' then I guess I am too.
The data you selectively removed includes the last 10 years, not just 2003. But why let the facts get in the way of a good ideology? LOL.
One other suggestion: if you're going to decry Wikipedia's "problems", perhaps you should consider getting out from behind your
IP address and creating an account? --
Robertb-dc
19:17, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps I do not care enough about Wikipedia to invest any more time than this last post. A friend pointed this site out to me claiming it was a free online encylopedia maintained by the public. It turns out it is just a blog in disguise to try to legitimize opinions and rantings from the usual Internet clowns. Too bad.
The identifying colors for the rail extensions have changed. The Northwest/Southeast line will now be Green. The Irving line will be orange. The TRE will no longer be shown as a green line on the map. Instead it will be dark blue (the same as it is on public timetables).
This information has not yet been published anywhere that I am aware of. The only verification I can provide is for you to do a whois search on my IP address 198.51.223.126 22:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the line colors again. You can see a new map on the DART web site with these line colors. http://www.dart.org/inmotion/winter06/4.htm I removed the reference to the TRE being represented by a green line on DART maps because I cannot prove that it will be navy blue on future maps. This isn't on any map on the DART web site yet.
I've changed the date for the Irving line opening which will be December, 2011. http://www.dart.org/DARTExpansionDates.pdf
One final change is that the northwest line will not directly go to Love Field so I changed the wording to read "operate near Love Field airport" 198.51.223.126 19:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
The links on the Green Line map need to be fixed to point to the correct station articles. Also, the Orange line needs to be created and extended. Dfwcre8tive ( talk) 17:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I would like to see a map of the light rail system (with current and soon-to-be-built routes) and the current Trinity Railway Express line with this article. If one can be drawn, I'm sure I'd like to see it. MattFisher 02:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Done and uploaded.-- Bchan 10:36, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Incorrect map uploaded - DART
I am currently in the process of revising and correcting the System Map. SM V2.0 will be posted in a day or two. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Bchan 18:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
The citations of crude annual operating losses are definitely biased without some context. Key indicators for comparisons between cities might be "annual transit operating expenditure per capita" and "annual transit operating subsidy per capita."
By adjusting for inflation, it is also possible to demonstrate significant reduction in unit operating cost (per passenger, per passenger-mile) following introduction of rail service.
In fact, it is also possible to adjust for differences in labor costs between cities. Simply use employee hours per some measure, such as passenger-miles.
All of the figures above can be easily calculated using FTA data. Ldemery 23:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Robertb-dc, please specifically list what about the criticism of DART section you feel is vandalism... instead of just labeling it that without cause and then reverting the section to your edit. TexasDawg 00:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
TexasDawg, you added this paragraph:
The Dallas Morning News data is very interesting. I suggest you use it forcefully and often in online forums where your opinions about taxpayer subsidies of public transportation can be discussed. However, when you say "Critics of DART believe", you're currently saying "TexasDawg believes". Find a source or leave it out.
By the way, the benchmark federal mileage reimbursement, a number intended to take into account both fuel costs and vehicle maintenance expenses, is currently 44.5 cents per mile [2]. The route in question is about 30 miles long, so each rider who takes the full trip (or pair of riders, one from Westmoreland to Downtown and another from Downtown to Parker Road) is worth $13.35. Just 25 riders at that mileage reimbursement rate would cost $333.75 -- well over the $280 cost of running the train. If the train is full -- seating capacity 72 in each car for a total of 144 [3] -- then the investment of $280 pays back $1,922. That's comparable to a trans-oceanic commerical plane flight. -- Robertb-dc 18:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The rail system map shows the LBJ/Central station on the Red Line twice. There is only one LBJ/Central station, and it's the one between Forest Lane and Spring Valley. The station between Arapaho Center and the Bush Turnpike is Gatalyn Park. 204.0.197.190 20:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
On the 10th anniversary of DART Rail, I suppose it's fitting that TexasDawg should find something to complain about. He's added a pointless whine about suburbs that don't have rail. Rather than remove the clearly inflammatory and NPOV content (and risk yet another revert war), I'll add some blindingly obvious facts -- that these cities are scheduled for rail by 2010 (Rowlett may be a bit longer). -- Robertb-dc 13:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
The DTS article is pretty tiny, though it has a good image and good links. I think it should be part of the DART article's History section, similar to how CITRAN/SURTRAN is part of the history of The T. Any objections? See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for details of the process: two weeks with consensus or four weeks if nobody cares either way. -- Robertb-dc 18:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Concur. It makes no sense to have a stub article when it can be merged into another, more comprehensive one. Quidam65 14:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The current page lists the current rail system as phase one and the current expansion as phase 2. Wasn't the 20 mile starter system phase one, the expansions to Garland, Richardson and Plano phase 2 and the current expansion phase 3? ---- FoUTASportscaster 14:16, 07 October 2006
I noticed that two additions were made to the Executive Directors list. That's fine and dandy, but I'm a bit suspicious... because "Maurice M Carter" was added by a user named "M2Carter", and this is his only edit ever. Was there ever a M. M. Carter on the DART board, or is this just a creative bit of faux history added by a clever high schooler? I've tagged the section with "unreferenced" in hopes that the real MMCarter will Please Stand Up. -- Robertb-dc 19:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have current rush-hour pictures of DART light rail vehicles? The present shots of 90% empty one-car trains don't show the real usefulness of DART light rail. One photo of a four-car train packed full of people who paid $2.50 to ride is worth a thousand kilobytes of TexasDawg's ranting about government funded transit... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.187.78.4 ( talk) 01:51, March 15, 2007 (UTC)
Is there any information on the safety of actually riding DART? What about the operators? I have heard from many of the operators of the problems they have on their routes and how unsafe it is for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicam ( talk • contribs) 09:16, June 17, 2007 (UTC)
I'll give the person, operating under the IP address of 72.54.93.13, one week to attribute his/her facts before I delete them. I have seen nothing on anywhere that gives those kind of numbers and this seems like typical anti-rail rhetoric.---- FoUTASportscaster 05:43, March 29, 2007 (UTC)
It was I who posted the data, straight from the 2005 NTD. If I were more adept at using Wikipedia, I would have added the footnote. In that report DART outlayed $202,794,312 in operating costs on the buses, $16,494,441 on capital bus outlays, and carried 53,394,331 unlinked passenger trips. That equates to a fully loaded cost of $4.11 per passenger trip. For light rail the numbers are $69,273,579 ops, $116,729,227 capital, carrying 17,487,057 trips. That is a cost per passenger of $10.64. And while this may appear to you as "anti-transit" to you, it is the most basic statisitc of the transit industry in which I have worked for years. Passengers is the most frequently used statistic in quantifying benefit in the industry, and thus the fully-loaded cost per passenger does offer insight in the benefit/cost ratio of the service. And that ratio is in turn the most important indicator of all transportation planning, both roadway and transit. I apologize for pointing out what all transit planners secretly know.
I find it interesting that (a) it is strange that the first service type mentioned is not the most used and (b) others would delete relevant, factually verifiable information if it does not meet their interests.
There are some data pieces from the lightrailnow site-a site sponsored by the railcar industry-which are misleading but I will not remove because they are factually verifiable. I would appreciate the same consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfweckenmann ( talk • contribs) 16:55, May 1, 2007 (UTC)
Why are these templates being proposed for deletion?
For the New York City MTA lines there are articles for individual lines. Why not have the same for each individual line of Dallas. Dogru144 12:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
West Plano Transit Center is a small bus-only station located on 15th Creek Dr. west of Coit in Plano, Texas (U.S.A.). It is owned and operated by Dallas Area Rapid Transit, whose bus(es) mostly serve the Presbyterian Hospital within this transit center. It is one of the few DART transit centers outside the Dallas County area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guroadrunner ( talk • contribs) 08:33, June 30, 2007 (UTC)
How exactly did you get the light rail line color links like that? When you click on the "red" Red Line link, it takes you to the page. I clicked the edit button to see how it was done, but all I see is " Red Line". Any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XxTrillvillexX9 ( talk • contribs) 21:05, October 27, 2007 (UTC)
I really tried to create one " Template:METRO R ", but am not having too much luck. Any help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by XxTrillvillexX9 ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
The article states that dart owns the cotton belt line from Carrollton all the way up to just south of Downtown plano station.
The current freight line runs just south of the Downtown Plano Station on the Red Line, but DART maps of the 2030 plan show the line will route to the nearby Bush Turnpike station, the nearest station to the south of downtown Plano.[11] The Cotton Belt line runs through Coppell between Carrollton and DFW Airport; although no station locations are included in the plan, the promise of a future station could entice Coppell into rejoining the agency.
I believe this is inaccurate, Dart owns the tracks from the Carrollton DGNO yard up to Whiterock//Renner junction just south of 190 in richardson. Beyond this junction the tracks are owned by the KCS, all the way to wylie along this line. I believe this should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.242.97 ( talk) 23:53, December 1, 2007 (UTC)
Image:Dtslogo.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
There is no need to cite the State of Texas list for LRT miles. Houston has 7.5, DART has 45. Galveston has a small heritage streetcar line. Therefore, the 45 miles in Dallas makes it the largest in the state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FoUTASportscaster ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
How about changing the DART redirection page to a disambiguation page, as it can also refer to the Irish Dublin Area Rapid Transit? -- Tomcully ( talk) 23:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
This needs to be integrated into the article. WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
It is requested that a map or maps be
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A map showing cities which are members, former members, eligible non-members, etc. would be helpful to readers. -- Beland ( talk) 05:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone object to me setting up automatic archiving for this page using MizaBot? Unless otherwise agreed, I would set it to archive threads that have been inactive for 30 days.-- Oneiros ( talk) 17:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I have been sitting on this start of a template. Any interest in helping me complete it? With proper colors it could be quite useful. User:Spectre9/DART_light_rail_system_map Spectre9 ( talk) 00:38, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I may try to snap one, but I thought I would put up a request for SLRV photos. These new trains have been in service for some time, but all the current light rail photos show the old trains. Sure, there are still old trains in service, however DART has announced that all trains are being converted to SLRV. Spectre9 ( talk) 21:47, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I wish I would have received this warning before it was too late...
My car was burglarized at the Jupiter/Forest station. This was a car that had an alarm and was not an easy target. This is a job that would have taken the criminals a substantial amount of time. An amount of time that should never had been allowed in broad daylight while I was at work.
What do the DART police actually do? Just issue citations? How's about protecting the fare-paying customers' most valuable asset and securing the parking lots. Don't think it'll happen to you; I felt the same - park at any DART station and I assure you it will.
Worse than getting my car vandalised and $4,000 worth of merchandise stolen is the fact that the DART police won't do anything to catch the thieves. This criminal behavior in the parking lots is almost applauded. It would seem the criminals are aware of this because they don't shy away from heists that span hours just feet away from the stop.
I rode DART to save money on gas and to be more environmentally conscious. The amount these burglars have cost me is exponentially greater than any money saved by taking the DART train.
Park at your own risk; I would recommend taking your car with you to work. There is absolutely NO security at these stations and I now fear for the well being of my car and to a greater extent my life (well I no longer fear because I drive to work). The security is best described as a joke and is a humiliating black eye for what should be a reliable safe mode of transportation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.96.192.34 ( talk) 15:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Suggesting that the DART Light Rail Section be split out into a new article, with a summary paragraph on the main DART page. With major expansion under way, DART Light Rail is going to be a significant topic on its own, and deserves a separate page. This article is growing too long anyway. Spectre9 ( talk) 20:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
You guys are missing a very important point of view on the criticism of DART, which in my personal opinion, provides the most logical point of view. His name is Yonah Freemark and he currently operates the blog: The Transport Politic.
Here are some good articles on the site:
For more on Dallas, refer to http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/category/places/dallas/ . ThisguyYEAH ( talk) 01:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
"The DART board in September 2012 agreed to extend Orange Line to Terminal A in DFW Airport by 2014." Time warp! 69.72.27.169 ( talk) 06:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)