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"Many other African non-participants are said to have been killed because of the Dakar rally, but unlike the participants, no official figures are available and the names of the victims are usually not given" "are said" is not a fact and, therefore, it shouldn't be in an Encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.45.73.175 ( talk) 10:05, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Why are there no subnotes of all the African deaths attributed to this race? I was in Mali a few years back and met a mother whose 7-year-old was killed by a rally driver speeding through their village.
Some years have individual pages. I just updated details of the death of a rider in the 2007 race on the page for that year. Perhaps just linking to each year for the details of the death? Benthatsme 12:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I for one really don't care about the winners. The list of winners here took a lot of work, does anyone really need it and would it be in a standard encyclopedia? But I don't even care about the winners when I'm watching the race; I'd like to see more coverage of the privateers and the support crews that scraped together all they had to make it out there. -- justfred
Several deaths are missing from the 1986 race including the other occupants of the helicopter and at least one participant -- Anon. User, 23 December 2006
the race is open to amatures, so its not just proffesional-- GregLoutsenko 14:16, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure but there seems to be an internal contradiction. It says the last race from Paris to Dakar was organized in 1994, but there was a race in 2001 going from Paris to Dakar as is stated just above the apparently erroneous assertion that the route was last run in 1994.
Since the rally is no longer called the "Paris Dakar Rally," [1] perhaps the article should be changed to reflect this? 203.132.66.72 05:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
A number of news sources suggest that Andy Caldecott's death was the 23rd in the rally's history
Yet the current Wikipedia article talks about Meoni's death being the 45th
OZ_Rhett 02:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Missing one stage and already the Dakar have a winner? strange...
DiogoMartins 23:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps a short list of notable participants should be included. Loads of significant racers have run it over the years without winning...
Can someone update me on how to enter the race? I would love to participate, but I do not know where to turn.
Thanks. This should be my first step and I have never thought of it. Norum 20.Jan.2007
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Is sponsors section really needed? Sponsors are changing every year, i would prefer to delete section then endless list of annual sponsors. Some comments? -- Jklamo 15:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Can somebody find & add, or link, historic route maps? Also, is there a reliable list of finishers? I've seen nothing that includes full names, nationality, & team. Trekphiler 23:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
What is the average total distance for each historical route, in km? Something like this should be listed. — pfahlstrom 22:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I have all the stage winners for the Dakar Rally since 1979 to present. With their full names and nationality and makes. — Andreasu 12:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Nearly half the text is about negative 'incidents' and 'deaths' of (both racers and spectators). The Dakar Rallye is much much more. This should be shortened to one simple paragraph.
26 racers have died, but that doesnt mean we need to dwell on it. Over 200 have died scaling Everest. Dozens have died at the Baja 1000--yet neither would get so much negative attention.
The comments by the pope, the far left in France, are not worth mentioning.
The fact is more people fallow the Dakar Rally than the Tour de France. More watch this event than the French Open. It is the largest sporting event in January, and one of the top 10 in the world. (www.dakar.com)It is an inspiration to hundreds of millions in 180 countries who marvel at the racers and the scenery. There are numerous educational and development projects financed by the events promoter (ASO) each year. There are litterally dozens of fundraising campaigns done by the individual racers each year--everything from breast cancer awareness to orphanages are helped by this event.
There is also the incredible media attention focused on the remote regions of the sahara and the sahel during the event. Putting pictures of that rarely visited part of the world into the psyche of 500 million or more TV viewers is a great service to humanity.
While there is no time for racers to stop in villages and buy things--a very large amount of the food and other supplies for the rally is sourced locally. (www.dakar.com) This is a huge boon the local economies. Hotels, gas stations, government services and tourist facilities along the route, both in europe and africa do significant business during the rally. Portugal alone sees over 300,000 tourists out on the race course. (www.dakar.com) Tourism to the Sahel region is certainly growing and this event more than anything else brings in tourists from Europe, both during and long after the rally is over.
So perhaps a bit less dwelling on the negative and a bit more on the positive would go a long way to fairly presenting the Dakar Rally on Wikipedia.-- Ekim Yak ( talk) 23:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The 1983 entry lists the winner as Mercedes. If I remember correctly the actual winner was the french Lada Niva team. The Mercedes, which arrived first at the finish line, was disqualified for replacing the broken engine block during the race (such major components were not allowed to be replaced back then). In fact they actually arranged for a NATO cargo plane to land in the desert overnight and bring a whole new replacement engine direct from Germany, such was the fear of shame if a communist-made car won the Dakar. 82.131.210.162 ( talk) 09:06, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
This is mentioned in 2003. But quite clearly the number of people listed before then doesn't come close. Where these incidents particularly notable, the people particularly notable, are we lacking sources or it just adhoc who we mention? Nil Einne ( talk) 17:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I deleted most of the Television Coverage section on the grounds that most of it just read as pure advertising "In Australia, the Dakar is covered by Fox Sports, with daily morning and afternoon recaps of the recent day's action." What remains is quite sufficient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.134.81 ( talk) 22:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that this major Rally race need a INFOBOX (like other many sport infoboxes e.g. Template:Infobox Cycling race report, and many others...) (Who wants to create one?? Template:Infobox Dakar Rally — TouLouse ( talk) 17:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Since the Dakar has now moved to South America, perhaps it would be appropriate to update the map? bobrayner ( talk) 18:16, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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It would be beneficial to add to the list of winners
There is a mistake at the African map. The race never held in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (Zaire in 1992). In 1992 after the finish of the stage 15 in Pointe Noire (Republic of the Congo) the rally goes to the start of the stage 16 in Lobito (Angola) by ships. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.72.102.4 ( talk) 01:15, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Nothing about the damage to the Nazca Lines? 2602:306:C539:2000:15FF:E658:B9DB:D243 ( talk) 01:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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"Many other African non-participants are said to have been killed because of the Dakar rally, but unlike the participants, no official figures are available and the names of the victims are usually not given" "are said" is not a fact and, therefore, it shouldn't be in an Encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.45.73.175 ( talk) 10:05, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Why are there no subnotes of all the African deaths attributed to this race? I was in Mali a few years back and met a mother whose 7-year-old was killed by a rally driver speeding through their village.
Some years have individual pages. I just updated details of the death of a rider in the 2007 race on the page for that year. Perhaps just linking to each year for the details of the death? Benthatsme 12:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I for one really don't care about the winners. The list of winners here took a lot of work, does anyone really need it and would it be in a standard encyclopedia? But I don't even care about the winners when I'm watching the race; I'd like to see more coverage of the privateers and the support crews that scraped together all they had to make it out there. -- justfred
Several deaths are missing from the 1986 race including the other occupants of the helicopter and at least one participant -- Anon. User, 23 December 2006
the race is open to amatures, so its not just proffesional-- GregLoutsenko 14:16, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure but there seems to be an internal contradiction. It says the last race from Paris to Dakar was organized in 1994, but there was a race in 2001 going from Paris to Dakar as is stated just above the apparently erroneous assertion that the route was last run in 1994.
Since the rally is no longer called the "Paris Dakar Rally," [1] perhaps the article should be changed to reflect this? 203.132.66.72 05:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
A number of news sources suggest that Andy Caldecott's death was the 23rd in the rally's history
Yet the current Wikipedia article talks about Meoni's death being the 45th
OZ_Rhett 02:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Missing one stage and already the Dakar have a winner? strange...
DiogoMartins 23:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps a short list of notable participants should be included. Loads of significant racers have run it over the years without winning...
Can someone update me on how to enter the race? I would love to participate, but I do not know where to turn.
Thanks. This should be my first step and I have never thought of it. Norum 20.Jan.2007
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Is sponsors section really needed? Sponsors are changing every year, i would prefer to delete section then endless list of annual sponsors. Some comments? -- Jklamo 15:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Can somebody find & add, or link, historic route maps? Also, is there a reliable list of finishers? I've seen nothing that includes full names, nationality, & team. Trekphiler 23:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
What is the average total distance for each historical route, in km? Something like this should be listed. — pfahlstrom 22:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I have all the stage winners for the Dakar Rally since 1979 to present. With their full names and nationality and makes. — Andreasu 12:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Nearly half the text is about negative 'incidents' and 'deaths' of (both racers and spectators). The Dakar Rallye is much much more. This should be shortened to one simple paragraph.
26 racers have died, but that doesnt mean we need to dwell on it. Over 200 have died scaling Everest. Dozens have died at the Baja 1000--yet neither would get so much negative attention.
The comments by the pope, the far left in France, are not worth mentioning.
The fact is more people fallow the Dakar Rally than the Tour de France. More watch this event than the French Open. It is the largest sporting event in January, and one of the top 10 in the world. (www.dakar.com)It is an inspiration to hundreds of millions in 180 countries who marvel at the racers and the scenery. There are numerous educational and development projects financed by the events promoter (ASO) each year. There are litterally dozens of fundraising campaigns done by the individual racers each year--everything from breast cancer awareness to orphanages are helped by this event.
There is also the incredible media attention focused on the remote regions of the sahara and the sahel during the event. Putting pictures of that rarely visited part of the world into the psyche of 500 million or more TV viewers is a great service to humanity.
While there is no time for racers to stop in villages and buy things--a very large amount of the food and other supplies for the rally is sourced locally. (www.dakar.com) This is a huge boon the local economies. Hotels, gas stations, government services and tourist facilities along the route, both in europe and africa do significant business during the rally. Portugal alone sees over 300,000 tourists out on the race course. (www.dakar.com) Tourism to the Sahel region is certainly growing and this event more than anything else brings in tourists from Europe, both during and long after the rally is over.
So perhaps a bit less dwelling on the negative and a bit more on the positive would go a long way to fairly presenting the Dakar Rally on Wikipedia.-- Ekim Yak ( talk) 23:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The 1983 entry lists the winner as Mercedes. If I remember correctly the actual winner was the french Lada Niva team. The Mercedes, which arrived first at the finish line, was disqualified for replacing the broken engine block during the race (such major components were not allowed to be replaced back then). In fact they actually arranged for a NATO cargo plane to land in the desert overnight and bring a whole new replacement engine direct from Germany, such was the fear of shame if a communist-made car won the Dakar. 82.131.210.162 ( talk) 09:06, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
This is mentioned in 2003. But quite clearly the number of people listed before then doesn't come close. Where these incidents particularly notable, the people particularly notable, are we lacking sources or it just adhoc who we mention? Nil Einne ( talk) 17:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I deleted most of the Television Coverage section on the grounds that most of it just read as pure advertising "In Australia, the Dakar is covered by Fox Sports, with daily morning and afternoon recaps of the recent day's action." What remains is quite sufficient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.134.81 ( talk) 22:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that this major Rally race need a INFOBOX (like other many sport infoboxes e.g. Template:Infobox Cycling race report, and many others...) (Who wants to create one?? Template:Infobox Dakar Rally — TouLouse ( talk) 17:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Since the Dakar has now moved to South America, perhaps it would be appropriate to update the map? bobrayner ( talk) 18:16, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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It would be beneficial to add to the list of winners
There is a mistake at the African map. The race never held in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (Zaire in 1992). In 1992 after the finish of the stage 15 in Pointe Noire (Republic of the Congo) the rally goes to the start of the stage 16 in Lobito (Angola) by ships. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.72.102.4 ( talk) 01:15, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Nothing about the damage to the Nazca Lines? 2602:306:C539:2000:15FF:E658:B9DB:D243 ( talk) 01:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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